cocheese 0 #1 January 10, 2006 Haven't flown in a year. Got the itch so i got the new Hangar 9 Twist 40 plug n play. (Sounds like a sex toy ? )Anyway, this thing was complete ! just add your favorite 4 ch receiver and a few tweaks to your own radio and you're wheels up the next morning. Actually could be flying in less than an hour from opening the box if you had your stuff ready.It's a 3D plane with short fat wings and control surfaces big enough to make a glider with them.It hauls ass. Made 2 flights and am wishing i bought a more relaxing trainer instead. Don't know how you guys fly jets and things with how much ground is covered in 4 seconds. I was at idle speed and could barley relax.It's like when first learning to freefly. Breathe, relax, go fast, be smooth, slow down, chill.This is only my second glow engine plane, but have had lots of electric planes.I have so much to learn. Any advice ? Dual rates set on low and mellow for now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feeblemind 1 #2 January 10, 2006 Obviously dual rates is a good first call. Also, are your thrws per the manufactures specs or did you add a little like the rest of us tend to do? Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #3 January 10, 2006 I haven't even measured the throw rates yet. I just have them at about 60 % or less and am thinking i should throw in some expo rates to chill my moves on the sticks. No expo On yet but maybe i'll program some of that tonight.I'm just lucky i got 2 flights without a crash while experimenting with all that first flight crap like CG, trim settings, new style plane, windy day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #4 January 17, 2006 I didn't know the twist was so fast.... Anyway just put new paddles on my Shogun helicopter and started learning to fly inverted....What a mind trip."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #5 January 17, 2006 Inverted Heli ? Damn. Wow.Dude !Yea me and the Twist is like giving a 50 jump chump a 97 cross brace. I'll probably think it is slow in 20 more tankfulls. Talked my buddy into buying the P-51 RTF progresssive trainer system. He has an old heli he hasn't flown yet too. R/c boogie weekend at the dz this weekend. Bored skydivers only. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n23x 0 #6 January 17, 2006 Measure your throws, and adjust as necessary. That or go into exponential throws (though I'm not a fan). My dad is really getting into the 3d electrics, and i have to say, that is rediculous fun for the cost, plus there's nowhere you can't fly them. The only thing that sucks are the requirements for li-polys. Ron, How do you like the Shogun? Raptors and xcells are pretty common around where I used to fly. I just brought my 2 xcell 60's out here, one with a YS91, and a gasser. Care for a couple drags? .jim"Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 22 #7 January 17, 2006 Hi Cocheese!!, Sounds like you just got a micro-canopy after spending years under a Strato-Cloud!! Good fun. Tie a long crep-paper streamer to the tail to drag around and give it a little drag. Just don't do any tight loops or tight turns !!!!(I used to do the streamer thing on U-Control models to teach students!!) When your brain catches up to with your thumbs you can cut it loose!! I just got my old Sensoar (2-Meter 2-ch. floater, poly-hedral sail plane back on line!!!) Will be flying this weekend at Raeford with Chucky Blue and Tim Tennant. They have just gotten the bug with a couple of park flyers!! Now to get the gum out of the O.S. 50 FSR on the front of my Sig Cadet and get it started!!! Ohhh that burnt shoe polish smell of glow fuel!!!!!SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #8 January 17, 2006 QuoteRon, How do you like the Shogun? Raptors and xcells are pretty common around where I used to fly. Shogun is nice...But my next E-heli will be a Trex. Much better from what I can tell."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #9 January 26, 2006 QuoteI didn't know the twist was so fast....Anyway just put new paddles on my Shogun helicopter and started learning to fly inverted....What a mind trip.Ok here's the latest update. The Twist IS fast and i was flying in a tight area on a windy day. Flew it at the dz and it was easier. Had a blast as 7-8 different r/c planes flew on Sunday for our first r/c boogie.( 5 tankfuls later) Today was my most rightous r/c day ever. Burned a 1/2 gallon of sweet smelling nitro and only cracked a prop on an extreamly low fast touch-n-go.Four tanks through the Voyager 40 and 4 in the Twist 40Full throttle and an antenna length away as much as possible. Diving "Fly By" City it was. Even pulled off some high hovering for a while.And what came in the mail a day early as i was flying on the ice ?The Ultra Stick 40 !Ultra "sick" with quad flaps and i believe i will strap a 4 stroke on it and some floats. Does it get much better than that Ron ?Now i'll need a better radio.I'm happy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sen.Blutarsky 0 #10 January 26, 2006 What is the consensus regarding the performance of this RC helicopter? How easy is it to learn to fly? I bought one for a friend of mine on his birthday. Now he wants me to show him how to fly it, and I’m pretty clueless. I got it because I was told that it’s perfect for the suburbanite weekend warrior type and, well, that’s my friend. If we don’t trash it this Spring do you think I can put a small wireless video camera on it, the camera I have is the size of a vitamin capsule excepting the wire antenna. Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F16Driver 0 #11 January 27, 2006 I've got a Raptor 30 (4 years old) and Raptor 90SE w/OS .91 C-Spec. I have my 90SE set up for 3D and I love how it takes everything I throw at it. Inverted Hover, Tick Tocks, etc. That all metal head is great. My next toy will either be a Raptor 50 w/ Hyper motor or a T-Rex. I still fly my planes once and awhile, but I have a lot more fun with my helis. "I promise, I will never die." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #12 January 27, 2006 I'm not an r/c pilot. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #13 January 27, 2006 Quote What is the consensus regarding the performance of this RC helicopter? How easy is it to learn to fly? I bought one for a friend of mine on his birthday. Now he wants me to show him how to fly it, and I’m pretty clueless. I got it because I was told that it’s perfect for the suburbanite weekend warrior type and, well, that’s my friend. If we don’t trash it this Spring do you think I can put a small wireless video camera on it, the camera I have is the size of a vitamin capsule excepting the wire antenna. Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners! The R?C version of DZ.COM is: www.rcgroups.com/forums/index.php? Lots of discussion on micro helis there. I have a micro, a mini and a .40 size gasser heli. The bigger they are the easier they are to fly.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huey 0 #14 January 27, 2006 And the more expensive they are to fix! The Raptor's are the best. they fly smooth and are cheap to fix. I have had Hirobo sceadu's, Shuttle's,JR's and I like the Raptor's. R/C helicopter's are more challenging to fly than real helicopters by a factor of 10! so be willing to reck a few or 6."The Dude abides" - Jeff Labowski Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #15 January 27, 2006 QuoteAnd the more expensive they are to fix! The Raptor's are the best. they fly smooth and are cheap to fix. I have had Hirobo sceadu's, Shuttle's,JR's and I like the Raptor's. R/C helicopter's are more challenging to fly than real helicopters by a factor of 10! so be willing to reck a few or 6. I've been flying them since 1987 and have only wrecked 3 in that time. Still flying a Kalt Whisper electric (long since out of production) that I built in 1991. I'm on my 4th set of blades with it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckwater 0 #16 January 27, 2006 I have a Blade CP from EFlite. $209 electric chopper, fully aerobatic, can hover inverted. I wrecked it HARD yesterday and it did $5.99 worth of damage. I have never flown an R/C chopper before, and I taught mysel in about 10 battery charges. This is, by far, the best $200 I have spent outside of Tijuana. The hobby shop cant keep them in stock. http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo/Files/E-flite_Blade_CP_Mini_Heli_Enhanced_320x240_bb.wmv - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #17 January 27, 2006 What do you have your V curves set as? Right now I have Normal set to hover at about half stick. V1 set to hover at 3/4, and just a tad of a throttle curve at the bottom (not enough to hover, but enough for standard loops and rolls) V2 set as a perfect V with inverted hover at 1/4 upright at 3/4. Also do you suggest I fly in V2 most of the time, or flip into it for fun and back for landing... I have gotten different answers from very good pilots and am interested in your opinion."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #18 January 27, 2006 QuoteWhat do you have your V curves set as? Right now I have Normal set to hover at about half stick. V1 set to hover at 3/4, and just a tad of a throttle curve at the bottom (not enough to hover, but enough for standard loops and rolls) V2 set as a perfect V with inverted hover at 1/4 upright at 3/4. Also do you suggest I fly in V2 most of the time, or flip into it for fun and back for landing... I have gotten different answers from very good pilots and am interested in your opinion. I have my curves set the same way. I fly in V2 unless doing hovering stuff (I rather like low slow pirouetting passes).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #19 January 27, 2006 What does it mean if you're addicted to buzzing/swooping yourself with your aircraft ? Is this normal ? or more of a crazy skydiver trait.Has anyone here ever made a mistake by buzzing yourself or other people ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooChooser 0 #20 January 27, 2006 QuoteI'm not an r/c pilot. Blues, Dave Me either. So, what are you going to do about it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #21 January 27, 2006 Quote Me either. So, what are you going to do about it? Nothing. I just wanted to play scofflaw with the thread title. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #22 January 27, 2006 QuoteWhat does it mean if you're addicted to buzzing/swooping yourself with your aircraft ? Is this normal ? or more of a crazy skydiver trait. Its normal, but not smart. QuoteHas anyone here ever made a mistake by buzzing yourself or other people ? Yes, and it has killed people. The little gliders and the little Blade CP does not have enough energy to kill, but it can do some damage. But, a 40 sized sport plane is fast and heavy enough to kill. And a .30 sized heli can kill as well."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sen.Blutarsky 0 #23 January 27, 2006 Thank you for your comments and the links. FYI Al’s Hobby Shop in Elmhurst, Illinois has Blade CPs in stock and carries many other types and their parts as well. Al’s was the first hobby shop I’d visited practically since I was a kid, but I was impressed by the selection and knowledge of the staff, you can check out the place here: http://www.alshobbyshop.com/store/index.asp. Some RC helicopters and planes looked to be the size of a small car, with price tags to match ... assuming he receives Mrs. Blutarsky’s blessing, The Senator just may have to get a little somethin’ for himself at Al’s this Spring. Bluto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #24 January 30, 2006 QuoteI have a Blade CP from EFlite. $209 electric chopper, fully aerobatic, can hover inverted. I wrecked it HARD yesterday and it did $5.99 worth of damage. I have never flown an R/C chopper before, and I taught mysel in about 10 battery charges. This is, by far, the best $200 I have spent outside of Tijuana. The hobby shop cant keep them in stock. http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo/Files/E-flite_Blade_CP_Mini_Heli_Enhanced_320x240_bb.wmv - I am amazingly close to going out and buying (or ordering) a Blade CP. I am too stupid to buy the counter-rotating version first and am simply going to order two crash kits up front and the training gear. I would rather grow into an airplane than grow out of one. Currently, I get the most fun out of flying my Aerobird Extreme with the Pro tail mod and an over-charged battery. I have destroyed three complete fuselages on that plane and over-stressed too main V-tails to count at this point. I fly it very, very hard and don't give a rat's ass if I pound in trying stupid new tricks in too-high wind conditionns. It's a fucking blast. I totally burned up the receiver/servo plate in my last one when I thought it prudent to run my three-cell 2100mh LiPo out of my P-51 in it. It flew amazingly fast for about three minutes before it fried the board and the plane pounded in. You can do some amazing aerobatics with this plane after you get used to it. I also have a slightly-smaller Aerobird Challenger which I don't fly much anymore (I keep snapping main wings doing high-G maneuvers. I also have a Parkzone P-51 which has turned out to be the most fragile piece of shit I have ever seen. Even very small imperfections in your landings lead to broken firewalls, snapped props, and snapped wings. I am about to order my third bare fuselage and give this airframe one more chance. I am going to beef up the firewall during assembly. I already figured out that foam-safe CA works great on busted wings. I run a Thunder Power 2100mah LiPo in this plane now. Once I destory another fuselage on this plane, I am going to put all the servos and radio gear into another, stronger ARF. My next plane is going to be the Parkzone Typhoon 3D. It's like $220 at the local hobby shop and comes complete with radio, just like all the other Hobbyzone/Parkzone offerings. I am either going to buy that plane or the Blade CP heli today. There are a lot of us at Raeford flying these days. It's terribly fun to goad your friends into trying new tricks before they are ready! ALL of us have destroyed at least two planes apiece in the past month and a half. RC planes are the shit! Fly hard and take chances! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #25 January 30, 2006 QuoteFly hard and take chances! With the toys. Be careful with the parachutes. I'm getting of one those Blade CP's too. That looks cool as hell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites