Airman1270 0 #26 March 3, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe NAACP would not be involved if they were convinced this was just a tragic accident That statment is not true. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Oh? Perhaps I'm wrong. I make my hasty judgement based on the history of this organization. They don't have a reputation for getting involved in an issue unless they perceive some type of "civil rights" trespass. (Of course, the victim must be black. A violation of a white guy's civil rights rarely prompts any action on their part.) From what I know of the incident, a bunch of skydivers drank some beer and had some late-night fun. Later, there was an accident and a guy died. It appears race had no more to do with it than does the eye color of everyone involved. I'm still bugged by the demand that an arrest be made in the absence of any evidence of criminal activity. Cheers, Jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbattman 0 #27 March 3, 2007 Post your D license number. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #28 March 3, 2007 QuotePost your D license number. He went from 2 years 1100 jumps to 15 years 1100 jumps. Doubt he'd post his real D license #...assuming he's got one.Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RBM 1 #29 March 4, 2007 QuoteQuote**First let me say what a terrrible thing that this has happened** ....Next, Justice has not been done? Don't do that to a dog? No arrest? How about taking RESPONSIBILITY for ones actions? How about looking at YOUR sons actions that led to this tragedy? NCAAP? They would not be involved if this happened at an all African American camp... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Well said. The NAACP would not be involved if they were convinced this was just a tragic accident. At the same time, where is the evidence that this was anything else? Note the totalitarian attitude on display here, the belief that an arrest must be made despite the lack of evidence supporting such action. This is frightening. Don't mean to caress the boundaries of Speaker's Corner here, but there seems to be an attitude among certain political activist groups that either 1) White people won't associate with black people, or 2) When this theory is obviously not applicable, it must mean that when black people ARE welcomed with open arms into the community, and something unfortunate happens to them, it MUST have something to do with someone's unkind racial attitudes. The NAACP cannot afford to acknowledge reality because the day they do they'll begin to see a dramatic drop in fund-raising income. Cheers, Jon S. you are so more on target with that answer than any other posts i've seen here on this subject, Right ON! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites namgrunt 0 #30 March 4, 2007 from this tragic chain of events NO good will come. except lawyers will be paid yes the lawyers will push for justice for as long as there fee is paid THIS IS TRULY A TRAGEDY for everyone involved ..59 YEARS,OVERWEIGHT,BALDIND,X-GRUNT LAST MIL. JUMP VIET-NAM(QUAN-TRI) www.dzmemories.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peanut4040 0 #31 March 4, 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think your motives are suspicious. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- my motives? i saw a video on my local news station and posted sorry your profile says 15 years skydiving and over 1000 skydives,,, I think you are a lyar. Since you are a lyar, your motives may be also a lie.Its a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sartre 0 #32 March 4, 2007 Well, now, the number of jumps and years in may be true. This person might not be lying about that at all. However, the motives are still suspect. I'm sure this is not this poster's only identity. But then again, what the hell do I know. My opinion of this event? (Which, technically, NOT ONE PERSON asked for) 1.We ALL do really stupid/whatwethinkisfunny shit when we've been drinking. Thank god we don't get 'what we deserve' 99% of the time. 2. This young man's race has nothing to do with it and it's just so fucking heartbreaking that after centuries of this shit, WE STILL CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT COLOR OF SKIN DOESN'T MEAN SHIT. Maybe MOST of us get it, but probably not. But do I believe he was picked on because of his skin color? Not from what I saw in the video, and I'd be willing to bet he'd be the first person to tell you that idea is fucked up. In this case i don't believe race had anything to do with anything. And fuck you to all of you (of whatever color) that can't understand that it's the measure of a person that matters, not the color of the skin. 3. We need to also understand that his family is hurting, and right or wrong, it's very natural to want to assign blame in these types of situations. Let's just wish them peace and reconciliation. I can't even imagine the heartbreak they must feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kamikaze82 0 #33 March 4, 2007 i'm sure lawyers and the news are just picking the scab. it's been what 2 years past? isn't his mother white and dad black? how does that make him black or white? i guess not white means black huh? correct me if i'm wrong but the woman in the video (sister i think) said she was afraid to leave him there not because he was drunk as hell but because of his "race." sounds like she got persuaded into that statement.¡YA BASTA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sartre 0 #34 March 4, 2007 the woman in the video is the sis of the DZO. and if you listen to everything she said, she says that she didn't think for a minute that his race had antying to do with it, but that the "appearance" might be so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kamikaze82 0 #35 March 4, 2007 sorry bout that i just heard sister of someone. q-tip please¡YA BASTA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #36 March 4, 2007 There is so much more to the interviews than what you hear.They did a great job of chopping up the audio but what the hell did everyone expect.I would never do an interview without getting a copy of the original tape. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chaoskitty 0 #37 March 4, 2007 Everything posted in this thread just adds more fuel to the fire and gives greater opportunity for out of context translations. *There is an ongoing criminal investigation happening here.* I deleted my previous comment because I was not there, and my opinion has no more bearing on this situation than yours does. Whether or not the original poster has 15 years in the sport is also irrellevant to the topic. Please just let this thread die. We shouldn't discuss it again until the case is closed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kamikaze82 0 #38 March 5, 2007 so we're not even allowed our opinions and how are we adding fuel to the fire by having a discussion?¡YA BASTA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peanut4040 0 #39 March 5, 2007 Please just let this thread die. We shouldn't discuss it again until the case is closed. I concur.Its a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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namgrunt 0 #30 March 4, 2007 from this tragic chain of events NO good will come. except lawyers will be paid yes the lawyers will push for justice for as long as there fee is paid THIS IS TRULY A TRAGEDY for everyone involved ..59 YEARS,OVERWEIGHT,BALDIND,X-GRUNT LAST MIL. JUMP VIET-NAM(QUAN-TRI) www.dzmemories.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #31 March 4, 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think your motives are suspicious. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- my motives? i saw a video on my local news station and posted sorry your profile says 15 years skydiving and over 1000 skydives,,, I think you are a lyar. Since you are a lyar, your motives may be also a lie.Its a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #32 March 4, 2007 Well, now, the number of jumps and years in may be true. This person might not be lying about that at all. However, the motives are still suspect. I'm sure this is not this poster's only identity. But then again, what the hell do I know. My opinion of this event? (Which, technically, NOT ONE PERSON asked for) 1.We ALL do really stupid/whatwethinkisfunny shit when we've been drinking. Thank god we don't get 'what we deserve' 99% of the time. 2. This young man's race has nothing to do with it and it's just so fucking heartbreaking that after centuries of this shit, WE STILL CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT COLOR OF SKIN DOESN'T MEAN SHIT. Maybe MOST of us get it, but probably not. But do I believe he was picked on because of his skin color? Not from what I saw in the video, and I'd be willing to bet he'd be the first person to tell you that idea is fucked up. In this case i don't believe race had anything to do with anything. And fuck you to all of you (of whatever color) that can't understand that it's the measure of a person that matters, not the color of the skin. 3. We need to also understand that his family is hurting, and right or wrong, it's very natural to want to assign blame in these types of situations. Let's just wish them peace and reconciliation. I can't even imagine the heartbreak they must feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kamikaze82 0 #33 March 4, 2007 i'm sure lawyers and the news are just picking the scab. it's been what 2 years past? isn't his mother white and dad black? how does that make him black or white? i guess not white means black huh? correct me if i'm wrong but the woman in the video (sister i think) said she was afraid to leave him there not because he was drunk as hell but because of his "race." sounds like she got persuaded into that statement.¡YA BASTA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #34 March 4, 2007 the woman in the video is the sis of the DZO. and if you listen to everything she said, she says that she didn't think for a minute that his race had antying to do with it, but that the "appearance" might be so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kamikaze82 0 #35 March 4, 2007 sorry bout that i just heard sister of someone. q-tip please¡YA BASTA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #36 March 4, 2007 There is so much more to the interviews than what you hear.They did a great job of chopping up the audio but what the hell did everyone expect.I would never do an interview without getting a copy of the original tape. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chaoskitty 0 #37 March 4, 2007 Everything posted in this thread just adds more fuel to the fire and gives greater opportunity for out of context translations. *There is an ongoing criminal investigation happening here.* I deleted my previous comment because I was not there, and my opinion has no more bearing on this situation than yours does. Whether or not the original poster has 15 years in the sport is also irrellevant to the topic. Please just let this thread die. We shouldn't discuss it again until the case is closed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kamikaze82 0 #38 March 5, 2007 so we're not even allowed our opinions and how are we adding fuel to the fire by having a discussion?¡YA BASTA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peanut4040 0 #39 March 5, 2007 Please just let this thread die. We shouldn't discuss it again until the case is closed. I concur.Its a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
kamikaze82 0 #35 March 4, 2007 sorry bout that i just heard sister of someone. q-tip please¡YA BASTA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #36 March 4, 2007 There is so much more to the interviews than what you hear.They did a great job of chopping up the audio but what the hell did everyone expect.I would never do an interview without getting a copy of the original tape. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #37 March 4, 2007 Everything posted in this thread just adds more fuel to the fire and gives greater opportunity for out of context translations. *There is an ongoing criminal investigation happening here.* I deleted my previous comment because I was not there, and my opinion has no more bearing on this situation than yours does. Whether or not the original poster has 15 years in the sport is also irrellevant to the topic. Please just let this thread die. We shouldn't discuss it again until the case is closed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kamikaze82 0 #38 March 5, 2007 so we're not even allowed our opinions and how are we adding fuel to the fire by having a discussion?¡YA BASTA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #39 March 5, 2007 Please just let this thread die. We shouldn't discuss it again until the case is closed. I concur.Its a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
