FreeFly coaching by RedBull air force.

[David.Vidu 0]

Hello people, probably you can help me.

Is it possible to have some freefly coaching with the team? Coached by who? In what Dropzone?
Thank you
David

[lolimfalling 0]

No.

[lost_n_confuzd 0]

Why would anyone want to pay what they would charge when you can get better FreeFly coaching for much cheaper at many DZs.

[g2gjump 0]

You obviously have not met any of the members.

[jverley 1]

Better get in with them soon. The attrition rate on the team is a bit high lately.

John
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[brucet7 0]

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You obviously have not met any of the members.

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POPS #10623; SOS #1672

[JohnDeere 0]

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You obviously have not met any of the members.

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So by you two meeting some of the members you both know there are no better coaches at other DZ's?

Not trying to be shity here but all the guy said is why chase down the red bull guys when there are better coaches that are just waiting to coach at some DZ's.

I added some words but its obvious what he ment.

Nothing opens like a Deere!

You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers!

[NWFlyer 2]

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Not trying to be shity here but all the guy said is why chase down the red bull guys when there are better coaches that are just waiting to coach at some DZ's.

We could probably argue all day about who the "best" freefly coaches are (and not being a freeflyer myself, I haven't a fucking clue). But based on the OP's (apparent) low experience level there are more likely more appropriate coaches than the Red Bull team, at least until he gets up to a certain level of skills/experience and can benefit from the additional skills that world-class skydivers bring to the table. Not that there's anything wrong with getting coaching from the best of the best early on, but it's usually not going to be the most cost-effective solution (unless one of 'em happens to be readily available at a local DZ) when there's likely someone more local that can teach/coach the basic skills at a much lower rate.

Or we could just continue the pissing contest over who's the best, but I suspect that the OP is a new jumper who has heard of the Red Bull guys because, let's face it, they've got the PR of a large company behind them. The longer he stays in the sport the more he'll realize there's top talent everywhere and it doesn't always come with energy drink sponsorship, though sometimes it does.

(And in case anyone reads this as a dis of the Red Bull team, it's very much not; I used to jump at Kpow and have seen several team members in "everyday skydiver" action and I have a lot of respect for their skill, experience, and openness with jumpers of all levels).

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[brucet7 0]

I jump regularly at a DZ where two of them regularly are. They were instructors for my AFF and I have jumped with them, asked them questions. etc. I cannot say there are not better coaches anywhere else. I know this, they are great guys I feel confident asking questions of. I do not freefly so I cannot speak about their coaching skills in that arena. I would be willing to travel and learn from the two I know. And it would not be extra because it was them. If they were there and not occupied doing AFFs and Tandems they would jump for the coach fee.

POPS #10623; SOS #1672

[JohnDeere 0]

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We could probably argue all day about who the "best" freefly coaches are (and not being a freeflyer myself, I haven't a fucking clue). But based on the OP's (apparent) low experience level there are more likely more appropriate coaches than the Red Bull team, at least until he gets up to a certain level of skills/experience and can benefit from the additional skills that world-class skydivers bring to the table. Not that there's anything wrong with getting coaching from the best of the best early on, but it's usually not going to be the most cost-effective solution (unless one of 'em happens to be readily available at a local DZ) when there's likely someone more local that can teach/coach the basic skills at a much lower rate.

I didn't come here to argue. I agree 100% with what you said. You said it better than me here ( I dont like typing long post). By better i never meant skill only. You touched on this above. It has alot to do with cost and how close to you they are. Its pretty plane and simple. The guy I was backing up seems to have meant the same thing and 2 people came in telling him he was wrong and all I was doing was correcting them!

Btw Like you i don't question there talent at all but there is a good chance they are not the best coach for the person that was asking.

Nothing opens like a Deere!

You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers!

[RackJR 0]

i'm constantly amazed at what these forums can generate from a simple question.

some of the guys on the red bull team offer coaching. Mike Swanson comes to mind in particular, he lives in california. all of them travel extensively, so booking time is something you typically have to do far in advance. most of them are booked out around 6 months in advance.

they are all professional coaches, and their rates are not cheap. so there is some validity to what someone else posted, that you can get coaching that might suit you better at this point in your career, from someone who costs less. if you live near a tunnel, just about any tunnel coach can get you started freeflying, at a rate that's usually easier to handle. in the sky, you should probably be more selective. start by trying to filter the things that the 300 jump-wonders tell you. that's the reason people do go to coaches like the red bull guys. their coaching is always going to be correct (they won't teach you any wrong things), and they will also give you the right instruction after only a few jumps, or probably only one jump. their video debrief will be very good, and they won't miss anything.

as far as what someone said about not having met the guys, i'm wondering if he has. i've met those guys, i've gotten coaching from several of them. they are great guys. considering the things they've accomplished in this sport, and how they've progressed the entire concept of freelfying, they don't carry around big egos the way others in this sport do. and their coaching is first rate.

if you PM me with your area, maybe i can try to hook you up with someone who can help you out.

Say what you mean. Do what you say.

[JohnMitchell 16]

Try at your local DZ for coaching in whatever discipline you want. If not, you may have to hit the road to find it. If the RB guys are in town coaching, by all means sign up with them. Luke's canopy coaching, I know, is second to none, and I don't think there is anything that Andy doesn't do at an expert level.

But for you beginning golf lessons, you really don't need Tiger Woods.

[virgin-burner 1]

i drink a lot of redbull, i can coach you!

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