Yossarian 0 #1 November 29, 2006 just a quick qyestion, are vigils compatible with wings containers? any issues riggers have found? thanks Lee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #2 November 29, 2006 Yes they are. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #3 November 30, 2006 Quotejust a quick qyestion, are vigils compatible with wings containers?Had the same question and Ankie answered me very quickly and kindly : QuoteYou can put, Cypres, Cypres2, Vigil, Argus, or Astra in our wings without any mods. With modification you can also put FXC and MPAAD scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yossarian 0 #4 November 30, 2006 thanks guys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pincheck 0 #5 November 30, 2006 i think Fish, it has more to do with container manufacturer approval off fitting this AAD here in the UK as i know off one girls rig that has been grounded because she has a vigil in her Talon container, it's due to this from BPA Safety and training meeting decision below. "Paul Applegate reported on the Riggers Committee meeting held that evening and stated that the subject of fitting AAD’s to equipment had been discussed at some length. He stated that there had been some confusion whether or not certain AADs may be fitted to parachute equipment, particularly because there were several new AADs now available and some container manufacturers have stated that certain AADs can or cannot be used in their equipment. The following proposal had been agreed by Riggers that evening: ‘Where AADs are to be fitted, both the AAD manufacturer and the rig manufacturer must be in agreement as to the fitting of the AAD, and instructions as to the installation/fitting must be available. This is to take effect by the next re-pack’ A good deal of discussion ensued, after which it was proposed by Paul Applegate and seconded by Pete Sizer, that the above be accepted." there just seems to be a lot off confusion out there at the momment Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 140 #6 November 30, 2006 No confusion. Rigging Innovations (Talon, Voodoo, Genera et al.) said : NO VIGIL IN OUR RIGS. Sunrise (Wings) said : Cypres, Cypres2, Vigil, Argus, Astra OK, FXC and MPAAD under certain conditions. Each rig manufacturer has his word to say concerning what HE thinks is compatible with HIS rigs. Like Jerome Bunker from Basik Air Concept who does not want (for now) Argus's in his rigs.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pincheck 0 #7 November 30, 2006 fair enough but it still leaves vigil owners who have rigging innovations kit in the lurch or vice versa. At the end of the day it will damage both companies if the piss enough of their customers off Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
pincheck 0 #5 November 30, 2006 i think Fish, it has more to do with container manufacturer approval off fitting this AAD here in the UK as i know off one girls rig that has been grounded because she has a vigil in her Talon container, it's due to this from BPA Safety and training meeting decision below. "Paul Applegate reported on the Riggers Committee meeting held that evening and stated that the subject of fitting AAD’s to equipment had been discussed at some length. He stated that there had been some confusion whether or not certain AADs may be fitted to parachute equipment, particularly because there were several new AADs now available and some container manufacturers have stated that certain AADs can or cannot be used in their equipment. The following proposal had been agreed by Riggers that evening: ‘Where AADs are to be fitted, both the AAD manufacturer and the rig manufacturer must be in agreement as to the fitting of the AAD, and instructions as to the installation/fitting must be available. This is to take effect by the next re-pack’ A good deal of discussion ensued, after which it was proposed by Paul Applegate and seconded by Pete Sizer, that the above be accepted." there just seems to be a lot off confusion out there at the momment Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #6 November 30, 2006 No confusion. Rigging Innovations (Talon, Voodoo, Genera et al.) said : NO VIGIL IN OUR RIGS. Sunrise (Wings) said : Cypres, Cypres2, Vigil, Argus, Astra OK, FXC and MPAAD under certain conditions. Each rig manufacturer has his word to say concerning what HE thinks is compatible with HIS rigs. Like Jerome Bunker from Basik Air Concept who does not want (for now) Argus's in his rigs.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pincheck 0 #7 November 30, 2006 fair enough but it still leaves vigil owners who have rigging innovations kit in the lurch or vice versa. At the end of the day it will damage both companies if the piss enough of their customers off Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites