phoenixlpr 0 #26 December 9, 2006 For me? Anything hurts. For my canopy? Once I have lost 4 lines on opening: ding...ding.ding.ding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #27 December 9, 2006 elongated hip rings, snapped lines, torn canopy, ripped aorta, broken neck. old PD openings + triathlon."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbl 0 #28 December 9, 2006 I have had a Sabre 170 downsized to a 150 then a 135. All of them whacked me, spanked me I started jumping a belly mount just to see what I am affraid to look up at. I see my face sit and cringe just waiting to have my 2-300ft opening.I want a snively one like a dog $h!tting razor blades. Just want it to quiver. My most recent opening Smacked the hell out of me hyper extended my neck and my digital stills took a sequence of 5 pictures and all you see are my legs going higher up and then a sideways picture of the earth. Sabres equal pain. don't care how you pack it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niu 0 #29 December 9, 2006 Interesting,I got a 135 to have softer openings for camera jumps. Softer when compared to a BT-40 that is,and they were. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites za_skydiver 0 #30 December 9, 2006 I emailed PD asking about slowing my opening down by sticking on a bigger slider and Robin Miller said: "The standard size slider for a Sabre 1 135 is 20x31. If a customer is wanting to slow the opening down, then we would recommend a 23x31." Blue Skies PhielixSome dream of flying, i live the dream... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhys 0 #31 December 9, 2006 or sell the canopy and get one that is 'designed' to open nice like a safire or crossfire etc."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites za_skydiver 0 #32 December 9, 2006 Rather spend the money on jumps Some dream of flying, i live the dream... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #33 December 10, 2006 QuoteRather spend the money on jumps Then keep jumping it as is, dude -- and accept constant spinal pain being part of your life by the time you're 40. I got recurrent in my 40's after a long layoff. A friend loaned me his old Sabre1 for free for a few months. There's a reason I jump a Pilot now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #34 December 10, 2006 QuoteWhen it snaps a femur, or a spinal cord, or you die. Anything else is merely brisk. Which is what happened to a friend of ours at Perris this Thanksgiving Day, his opening broke the ball joint off his femur. The guy's in his sixties, but in good health, works out at the gym and all the right things. It happens. Used to be that all squares opened faster and harder than they do nowadays. It didn't usually hurt, but you'd definitely get a sudden sharp tug that would squeeze the breath right out of you and make your body feel like a sack of concrete. Try jumping a vintage Strato Cloud at your next boogie to get thhat feeling. We thought of it as a "strong" feeling and we learned to like it. But hard ? Anything that makes you see stars, pass out, or causes an injury, that's hard. (Bill Booth has written a hysterically funny story about a Para Plane opening he had in 1972, where he "pulled his ripcord and woke up in an ambulance". Now THAT'S hard.) Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites phoenixlpr 0 #35 December 10, 2006 QuoteThe guy's in his sixties, but in good health, works out at the gym and all the right things. Osteoporosis can be a good explanation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bwilling 0 #36 December 10, 2006 QuoteTry jumping a vintage Strato Cloud at your next boogie to get thhat feeling. We thought of it as a "strong" feeling and we learned to like it. I jumped back 'in the day' of those canopies, I actually owned several of them. And while they did open faster than a 'normal' opening on one of today's canopies, I don't remember ever hearing about an opening that broke someones leg, let alone killed them, back then. Maybe Bill's got a point about the 'no stretch' line. We were pretty much all jumping Dacron lines back then... "If all you ever do is all you ever did, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites phoenixlpr 0 #37 December 11, 2006 QuoteTry jumping a vintage Strato Cloud at your next boogie to get thhat feeling. We thought of it as a "strong" feeling and we learned to like it. I had couple of jumps on a Strato Cloud Delta in year 2000-2001. It opened fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peckerhead 0 #38 December 11, 2006 If it makes you bleed or bruise. PS my old strato cloud never did that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #39 December 11, 2006 QuoteMaybe Bill's got a point about the 'no stretch' line. We were pretty much all jumping Dacron lines back then... That is definitely a good point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #40 December 12, 2006 But what really defines what a hard opening actually is? Quote What defines it for me is how far the goggles go away from my face... before the elastic snaps 'em back! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hjumper33 0 #41 December 12, 2006 When I was a student jumping a sabre2 i had a "quick" opening that kind of made my legs sore. I got to the ground and told my instructor and they said, you didnt have a hard opening, youll know when you have one. about 100 jumps later, pilot chute to instant canopy on a sabre1 with my chin getting split open by my chest strap buckle. Its only done that once, so my deffinition of a hard opening is a opening that makes you think about selling the canopy if it happens more than once or twice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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za_skydiver 0 #30 December 9, 2006 I emailed PD asking about slowing my opening down by sticking on a bigger slider and Robin Miller said: "The standard size slider for a Sabre 1 135 is 20x31. If a customer is wanting to slow the opening down, then we would recommend a 23x31." Blue Skies PhielixSome dream of flying, i live the dream... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #31 December 9, 2006 or sell the canopy and get one that is 'designed' to open nice like a safire or crossfire etc."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
za_skydiver 0 #32 December 9, 2006 Rather spend the money on jumps Some dream of flying, i live the dream... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #33 December 10, 2006 QuoteRather spend the money on jumps Then keep jumping it as is, dude -- and accept constant spinal pain being part of your life by the time you're 40. I got recurrent in my 40's after a long layoff. A friend loaned me his old Sabre1 for free for a few months. There's a reason I jump a Pilot now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #34 December 10, 2006 QuoteWhen it snaps a femur, or a spinal cord, or you die. Anything else is merely brisk. Which is what happened to a friend of ours at Perris this Thanksgiving Day, his opening broke the ball joint off his femur. The guy's in his sixties, but in good health, works out at the gym and all the right things. It happens. Used to be that all squares opened faster and harder than they do nowadays. It didn't usually hurt, but you'd definitely get a sudden sharp tug that would squeeze the breath right out of you and make your body feel like a sack of concrete. Try jumping a vintage Strato Cloud at your next boogie to get thhat feeling. We thought of it as a "strong" feeling and we learned to like it. But hard ? Anything that makes you see stars, pass out, or causes an injury, that's hard. (Bill Booth has written a hysterically funny story about a Para Plane opening he had in 1972, where he "pulled his ripcord and woke up in an ambulance". Now THAT'S hard.) Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #35 December 10, 2006 QuoteThe guy's in his sixties, but in good health, works out at the gym and all the right things. Osteoporosis can be a good explanation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bwilling 0 #36 December 10, 2006 QuoteTry jumping a vintage Strato Cloud at your next boogie to get thhat feeling. We thought of it as a "strong" feeling and we learned to like it. I jumped back 'in the day' of those canopies, I actually owned several of them. And while they did open faster than a 'normal' opening on one of today's canopies, I don't remember ever hearing about an opening that broke someones leg, let alone killed them, back then. Maybe Bill's got a point about the 'no stretch' line. We were pretty much all jumping Dacron lines back then... "If all you ever do is all you ever did, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #37 December 11, 2006 QuoteTry jumping a vintage Strato Cloud at your next boogie to get thhat feeling. We thought of it as a "strong" feeling and we learned to like it. I had couple of jumps on a Strato Cloud Delta in year 2000-2001. It opened fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #38 December 11, 2006 If it makes you bleed or bruise. PS my old strato cloud never did that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #39 December 11, 2006 QuoteMaybe Bill's got a point about the 'no stretch' line. We were pretty much all jumping Dacron lines back then... That is definitely a good point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #40 December 12, 2006 But what really defines what a hard opening actually is? Quote What defines it for me is how far the goggles go away from my face... before the elastic snaps 'em back! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hjumper33 0 #41 December 12, 2006 When I was a student jumping a sabre2 i had a "quick" opening that kind of made my legs sore. I got to the ground and told my instructor and they said, you didnt have a hard opening, youll know when you have one. about 100 jumps later, pilot chute to instant canopy on a sabre1 with my chin getting split open by my chest strap buckle. Its only done that once, so my deffinition of a hard opening is a opening that makes you think about selling the canopy if it happens more than once or twice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
hjumper33 0 #41 December 12, 2006 When I was a student jumping a sabre2 i had a "quick" opening that kind of made my legs sore. I got to the ground and told my instructor and they said, you didnt have a hard opening, youll know when you have one. about 100 jumps later, pilot chute to instant canopy on a sabre1 with my chin getting split open by my chest strap buckle. Its only done that once, so my deffinition of a hard opening is a opening that makes you think about selling the canopy if it happens more than once or twice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
