cocheese 0 #1 February 7, 2007 cling to a tree or a car until the helicopter comes to get them? Fucking let go. Go with the flow until you get to the side of the river. That helicopter could be saving the life of someone who still has a brain....or for skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripsmacker181 0 #2 February 7, 2007 I was gonna say float. Corpse.MediCare : Allergic to Prison. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #3 February 7, 2007 QuoteThat helicopter could be saving the life of someone who still has a brain Obviously that wouldn't be you. Ever thought of the logs and heavy debris also being dragged by the water? How would it feel to get pinned between a car swept up in the flood waters and the wall of a building? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guppie01 0 #4 February 7, 2007 What if they don't know how to swim??? Floating can be easy in a calm environment, but floating while dealing with flood waters can be exhausting... Trying to keep your head above water, avoiding obstacles, etc. It also helps the ERT keep a local on people.... if someone decides to float or swim with the current then they have to expand the search to try and find someone. g"Let's do something romantic this Saturday... how bout we bust out the restraints?" Raddest Ho this side of Jersey #1 - MISS YOU OMG, is she okay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #5 February 7, 2007 Holding onto an object with raging flood water i would imagine is more exhausting. I dont know, id probably hang on though 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #6 February 7, 2007 QuoteHolding onto an object with raging flood water i would imagine is more exhausting. I dont know, id probably hang on though If you can hang onto the front of an object getting pounded by the water pushing you against it, rather than the back of it getting pulled of it, you would last a lot longer."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davedlg 0 #7 February 7, 2007 I guided whitewater rafts for 6 years...I have seen many, many people swim whitewater. It's kinda funny how the average person reacts. Despite being given an extensive safety talk, almost everyone forgets what you told them the minute they hit the water. For most people, there is nothing more terrifing then being in that moving water. The majority of people "blank out" and do not participate at all in getting themselves out of the situation. Most of them just let the water take them until someone rescues them. I've seen people go completeley catatonic to the point they wouldnt even grab a rope or a paddle, but be just fine as soon as we got them back into the boat. Given that being in the moving water is such a scary experience for most, as soon as they have something solid to hold onto without submitting themself to the will of the moving water, they are going to hold onto it for dear life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guppie01 0 #8 February 7, 2007 And they even have a floatation device on. g"Let's do something romantic this Saturday... how bout we bust out the restraints?" Raddest Ho this side of Jersey #1 - MISS YOU OMG, is she okay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #9 February 7, 2007 And why do theft victims always get mad? It's not like getting mad will get your stuff back. Idiots. Just lie back and think of England. That anger could be much better spent while driving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #10 February 7, 2007 Hell, we even saw one of our guides last summer go semi-catatonic ... she was really struggling when we had to pull her out. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #11 February 7, 2007 maybe that would like a free helicopter ride? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davedlg 0 #12 February 7, 2007 QuoteHell, we even saw one of our guides last summer go semi-catatonic ... she was really struggling when we had to pull her out. Cold water will do that to you, unless you have a dry suit on, your muscles become very ineffective and it becomes very difficult to get back into the boat after only a few minutes in the water. That, and climbing back in a raft can be very difficult to begin with. What was your guide doing in the water when you were still in the boat anyway?? It's a major beer fine for a guide to end up in the water unless ALL of the other people in the boat fall out too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #13 February 7, 2007 Quote What was your guide doing in the water when you were still in the boat anyway?? It's a major beer fine for a guide to end up in the water unless ALL of the other people in the boat fall out too It wasn't my boat, but I think that entire boat flipped. I was in one of the rescue boats."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guppie01 0 #14 February 7, 2007 It was a guide on one of the other rafts in our group. The whole raft was tipped and our raft (the one Krisanne and I were in) rescued the guide and 3 rafters from the tipped raft. g"Let's do something romantic this Saturday... how bout we bust out the restraints?" Raddest Ho this side of Jersey #1 - MISS YOU OMG, is she okay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #15 February 7, 2007 QuoteIt was a guide on one of the other rafts in our group. The whole raft was tipped and our raft (the one Krisanne and I were in) rescued the guide and 3 rafters from the tipped raft. g Thanks for checking my memory there, g. I *still* have yet to flip on a rafting trip. One of these days I'm sure I will and I can't say I won't go catatonic. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davedlg 0 #16 February 7, 2007 QuoteI *still* have yet to flip on a rafting trip. If you come to Colorado and go rafting, I can arrange such an occurance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guppie01 0 #17 February 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteIt was a guide on one of the other rafts in our group. The whole raft was tipped and our raft (the one Krisanne and I were in) rescued the guide and 3 rafters from the tipped raft. g Thanks for checking my memory there, g. I *still* have yet to flip on a rafting trip. One of these days I'm sure I will and I can't say I won't go catatonic. Somehow I think you'll keep your cool!!! Our raft was spot on during both tips and handled the rescues very calmly (except when we thought we had a missing rafter) and efficiently. And knock on wood girl! HA, Beth and I were talking about this years trip and wondering when it's happening. g"Let's do something romantic this Saturday... how bout we bust out the restraints?" Raddest Ho this side of Jersey #1 - MISS YOU OMG, is she okay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites