happythoughts 0 #1 February 3, 2007 ...or not. clicky QuoteJAKARTA, Feb 2 (Reuters) - Indonesia will drop hundreds of concrete balls into a mud volcano in a bid to brake the flow of hot liquid that has displaced more than 10,000 people and inundated entire villages in Java, an official said on Friday. The torrent of hot mud has been flowing since an oil drilling accident in May Ok, first, they've been trying other ideas since MAY. This is the best idea so far? Second, which genius engineers came up with this solution? Is it the same guys who were drilling and caused this to begin with? QuoteBut now the government plans to try concrete balls linked by metal chains. "The chains of balls weigh around 400-500 kilograms (880-1,100 lb) each. We plan to insert up to 300 ... We will do it gradually. Our target is we will try to put 50 chains of balls in a day," Novrianto added. Some places in the world just haven't heard of buckshot. I am just thinking that when the pressure builds up enough ala Mt. St. Helens... The worlds largest giant-chained-balls-ejection mechanism. Loading a volcano with 300 1000 lb balls? This sounds like a weather day at WFFC when someone was shooting occupied porta-potties with the potato gun. (News of the future) "Television news crews were quoted today as saying, 'WTF?' " QuoteAnger has mounted in the affected area over the mud, which in addition to burying homes and displacing residents, was blamed for a gas pipeline explosion in the area Let's see... volcanic mudslide creates explosion. They don't have a good track record here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #2 February 3, 2007 Sounds like the world's largest claymore mine. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #3 February 3, 2007 QuoteSounds like the world's largest claymore mine. After a year of volcanoes, mudslides that bury the town, gas explosions, and tsunamis... raining giant balls with chains. At that point, I would be depressed. At the very least, I would want good renters insurance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xenaswampjumper 0 #4 February 3, 2007 Isn't the heat in a volcano so hot that wouldn't stand a chance anyway without melting???? Am I missing something from the story....magma is pretty DAMN hot!!!! figure it would melt about anything eventually....or volcanos would be 'stuffed" all the time!!! till later have fun & love each other seeya mb65johnny gates.... In skydiving, the only thing that stops you is the ground.............. PMS# 472 Muff #3863 TPM#95 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,486 #5 February 3, 2007 I'm thinking what you're thinking. Where the hell is Billvon when the scientific shit is needed?Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #6 February 3, 2007 Anal beads for a volcano? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #7 February 3, 2007 One explosive orgasm, eh? Instead of a potential string of lethal projectiles, I'm surprised they didn't think of one giant butt plug.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jkm2500 0 #8 February 3, 2007 QuoteAnal beads for a volcano? Thats what I was thinking..... How is that going to keep the thing from blowing it's load?The primary purpose of the Armed Forces is to prepare for and to prevail in combat should the need arise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #9 February 3, 2007 QuoteIsn't the heat in a volcano so hot that wouldn't stand a chance anyway without melting???? Am I missing something from the story....magma is pretty DAMN hot!!!! figure it would melt about anything eventually....or volcanos would be 'stuffed" all the time!!! Oh...yeah. what about that? Oh hold on...it is mud flow, NOT magma. The magma further down inside the volcano might be the hotter spot that these cement balls (heehee) wouldn't have a chance at. I dunno though. Mud is pretty damn hot. I was just a little kid when St. Helens blew her damn top, but I remember seeing the mud burning things up in the news...not everything caught fire, but a lot of it 'cooked' as the mud burried it. I remember standing on it when it had cooled and hardened. It had covered everything on my aunt's farm. It looked like we were walking on the moon. Sad thing is I was only about 7 or 8 years old, and I remember seeing the roof to the barn only 4 feet off the ground and I was thinking, "Wow! Auntie has a miniature barn for kids!" -The mud had burried the whole damn thing (and all of the cows and horses in and near it ) all the way up to 4 feet from the top of the rafters...~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #10 February 3, 2007 QuoteThe magma further down inside the volcano might be the hotter spot that these cement balls (heehee) wouldn't have a chance at. That only sounds dirty when you say it. I used to work with something called "hydraulic concrete". It reacts to water and hardens almost immediately. It is mainly used to patch holes in sea walls. I built a bbq pit out of it using fire-treated brick once. You could only mix small amounts because of the drying time. If you put it in large sacks and strapped the sacks on pallets, it would probably do a better job on stopping a mud flow. The water would push it into a flowing spot and clog it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug 0 #11 February 4, 2007 Actually, mud volcanos have very little indeed to do with "classic" volcanos. There is no actual volcano involved, not even a magma chamber... It is believed that the outbreak was caused by a company drilling for oil. The geological structure at that area on Java is such that there is a limestone layer at a depth of couple of hundred metres, underneath which groundwater flows. The water itself is at high pressure due to the weight of the earth above it. The puncturing of the limestone layer during the drilling caused the water to shoot up the borehole, mixing with the earth, causing the "mud eruptions". Typically, oil boreholes are sheathed with steel to prevent such incidents, but this was neglected for the one on Java. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites