Why do people get excited over new commercial airliners? (A380, etc)

[grue 1]

I've been trying to figure this out.

Yes, it's cool when you see them outfitted with bars, nightclubs, whatever, but in actual use, it's the same as always: Huge economy class with everyone jammed in as tightly as they possibly can, and then business and first class being where most people will never go more than once or twice.

Wake me up when they're dramatically faster (supersonics would get my attention, even if only available for overwater flights), or when the airlines start putting reasonably sized seats in them.

cavete terrae.

[sundevil777 102]

Some of us have worked to design or build new commercial airliners (777 flight deck in my case).

For the same reasons people go to aircraft museums.

They are amazing examples of what humans can do, they are marvels of engineering that often have some new technology (even if it doesn't change the passenger experience).

I also think that we have a deep desire to jump out of such planes, which is of course can now be easily satisfied with Perris' jet. I think it good that it still has the full passenger interior, it wouldn't have been as much fun if it was a cargo version.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

[Zenister 0]

while i always admire feats of engineering i tend to agree..

as i told the last stewardess i was flirting with (she was surprised i slept most of the way thru a fairly turbulent flight) "i just cant get to excited about riding in an aircraft you wont let me out of till its on the ground"

ofc i WOULD be impressed if an airline actually put 'extended leg room seating' in its fleet.. rather than relabeling the Emergency exits as such and charging an extra 50$... *cough* United *cough* corporate asshats *cough*

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[grue 1]

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Some of us have worked to design or build new commercial airliners (777 flight deck in my case).

For the same reasons people go to aircraft museums.

They are amazing examples of what humans can do, they are marvels of engineering that often have some new technology (even if it doesn't change the passenger experience).

I also think that we have a deep desire to jump out of such planes, which is of course can now be easily satisfied with Perris' jet. I think it good that it still has the full passenger interior, it wouldn't have been as much fun if it was a cargo version.

I'm speaking more about the general public, more than skydivers and those actually involved with the aircraft.

If anything, I personally have LESS willingness to fly on an A380 or other future superjumbos, just because it's going to take that much longer to load the damned things up with people and luggage, and unload, meaning more time sitting around doing exactly fuck all.

A 200 person supersonic with seats that will fit me halfway decently is what I'm hoping to see some day.

cavete terrae.

[grue 1]

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while i always admire feats of engineering i tend to agree..

as i told the last stewardess i was flirting with (she was surprised i slept most of the way thru a fairly turbulent flight) "i just cant get to excited about riding in an aircraft you wont let me out of till its on the ground"

ofc i WOULD be impressed if an airline actually put 'extended leg room seating' in its fleet.. rather than relabeling the Emergency exits as such and charging an extra 50$... *cough* United *cough* corporate asshats *cough*

More legroom would be nice. Wider seats would be nicer. I'm not even a fat guy, I'm just not the "average" 5'7" 160lber.

That's up to the actual airlines though, and they've been more than happy to prove for years they don't give a shit about customers.

cavete terrae.

[sundevil777 102]

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Some of us have worked to design or build new commercial airliners (777 flight deck in my case).

For the same reasons people go to aircraft museums.

They are amazing examples of what humans can do, they are marvels of engineering that often have some new technology (even if it doesn't change the passenger experience).

I also think that we have a deep desire to jump out of such planes, which is of course can now be easily satisfied with Perris' jet. I think it good that it still has the full passenger interior, it wouldn't have been as much fun if it was a cargo version.

I'm speaking more about the general public, more than skydivers and those actually involved with the aircraft.

If anything, I personally have LESS willingness to fly on an A380 or other future superjumbos, just because it's going to take that much longer to load the damned things up with people and luggage, and unload, meaning more time sitting around doing exactly fuck all.

A 200 person supersonic with seats that will fit me halfway decently is what I'm hoping to see some day.

The A380 should offer cheaper seats compared to alternatives, as did the 747. That is the incentive to put up with the herd.

A supersonic plane would be great for the shorter flights, but unfortunately it also means flying at very high altitudes. The Concorde flew at around 60,000 feet. A depresurization at that altitude would give most people the bends I think, never mind if you'd pass out too quickly to get an oxygen mask on. It would take a long time to descend to a safe altitude to breath. It would be fun, but we all know that planes are vulnerable to failures of all kinds. It was very fortunate that it never happened to a Concorde.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

[grue 1]

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Some of us have worked to design or build new commercial airliners (777 flight deck in my case).

For the same reasons people go to aircraft museums.

They are amazing examples of what humans can do, they are marvels of engineering that often have some new technology (even if it doesn't change the passenger experience).

I also think that we have a deep desire to jump out of such planes, which is of course can now be easily satisfied with Perris' jet. I think it good that it still has the full passenger interior, it wouldn't have been as much fun if it was a cargo version.

I'm speaking more about the general public, more than skydivers and those actually involved with the aircraft.

If anything, I personally have LESS willingness to fly on an A380 or other future superjumbos, just because it's going to take that much longer to load the damned things up with people and luggage, and unload, meaning more time sitting around doing exactly fuck all.

A 200 person supersonic with seats that will fit me halfway decently is what I'm hoping to see some day.

The A380 should offer cheaper seats compared to alternatives, as did the 747. That is the incentive to put up with the herd.

A supersonic plane would be great for the shorter flights, but unfortunately it also means flying at very high altitudes. The Concorde flew at around 60,000 feet. A depresurization at that altitude would give most people the bends I think, never mind if you'd pass out too quickly to get an oxygen mask on. It would take a long time to descend to a safe altitude to breath. It would be fun, but we all know that planes are vulnerable to failures of all kinds. It was very fortunate that it never happened to a Concorde.

Do you think those savings will be passed onto the customers? I sure as fuck don't.

I don't mind the risks of flying high if it means I'm not sitting next to a fat smelly guy for 16.5 hours.

cavete terrae.

[Zenister 0]

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for 16.5 hours.

one of the few times i actually enjoy working on contracts that adhere strictly to the Govt JTR

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[sundevil777 102]

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Do you think those seat costs will be passed onto the customers? I sure as fuck don't.

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The airlines did offer cheaper fares when the 747 was introduced (at least that is what they say).

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

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[grue 1]

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for 16.5 hours.

one of the few times i actually enjoy working on contracts that adhere strictly to the Govt JTR

I'm down to my last 30k FF miles because of all the free trips I took, I'm using them sparingly

It's 15,000 miles EACH WAY for me to upgrade to business, and I have a hard time bringing myself to do that unless I can't get an exit row seat. This is why I'm at the airport as soon as it opens on any day that I have an international flight

cavete terrae.

[2fat2fly 0]

'cuz it means that I might stay employed a little longer

I am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried

[Grips 0]

I get excited for the new paint job to admire.

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