THE RIGHT SIZE?

[Dangerousmind86 0]

SO I JUST PURCHASED A USED RIG. I'M 6'5" AND 195LBS THE CONTAINER IS A VECTOR WITH A PD190 AND A RAVEN 181. IT WAS SUCH A GOOD DEAL THAT I HAD TO GET IT. MAYBE I WAS A LITTLE EARLY TO BUY SUCH A CLOSLY SIZED RIG TO MY BODY TYPE BUT ITS TOO LATE NOW. I'M A BEGGINING JUMPER SO HOW LONG SHOULD I WAIT TO JUMP THIS? I HAVE ANOUTHER BRAND NEW RIG ON ORDER A WINGS WITH A SABRE 210 AND PD193 RESERVE BUT ITS NICE TO HAVE TWO RIGS YES? WHAT SAY YOU?


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ANDY

ANDY

[phoenixlpr 0]

Would you be nice and turn the CAPS LOCK off, please?

FYI all caps means yelling online... Thanks.

[AggieDave 6]

Firstly, turn your damned cap locks off.

Secondly, that means you're going to have a wingloading of nearly 1.2:1 on a F111 PD 190. That's not good. That wingloading for your experience level not withstanding, that wingloading on a F111 canopy jumped again and again isn't the best choice. I had a PD 210 rip apart on me about 6 years ago when I was doing the same thing.

Now your even HIGHER wingloading on your reserve is a very bad choice as well. Very unsafe, especially for your expeince level.


Now go talk to your instructors and S&TA about a more appropiately sized main and reserve and resell that rig or find out if you an fit larger canopies for your main and reserve in that rig.


Edit: If you need an explaination of Wingloading and experience levels, its been discussed quite a bit on DZ.com before and can be easily found with a search. If you don't want to do that, check out the copy of the SIM (Skydivers Information Manual) that you should have handy since you're a student jumper. There's an ok explaination in there.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[dragon2 2]

Those canopies are way too small for your weight.

edit: AggieDave said it better

ciel bleu,
Saskia

[MotherGoose 0]

me say - its nice to have lots of money

You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed.

[jeremy_o 0]

What was the deal?

http://planetskydive.net/ - An online aggregation of skydiver's blogs.

[MagicGuy 0]

Geez two rigs with 10 jumps. But yeah bro, I would talk to your instructors before buying anything else. It sucks having a rig and not being able to jump it because the canopies are too small. Looking at it is only cool for the first week or so

[Dangerousmind86 0]

Ok ok caps are off! So it now seems that this rig will just have to be the one I let some of my friends borrow as an extra cosidering they will apparently fit it as I now know I wont. Awe crap eh' Just kidding. Thanks guys and forgive me for being so naive' New to the sport and trying to do it right considering my level of expeirience. Thanks!

ANDY

[riggerrob 643]

You are at the upper weight limit of a Raven. Even the guys at the Precision factory don't expect a Raven to flare very well when loaded at 1.4 pounds per square foot.

[riggerrob 643]

Edit: If you need an explanation of Wingloading and experience levels, its been discussed quite a bit on DZ.com before ...

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Try reading my article entitled "Wing Loading" in the fall 1984 issue of CANPARA Magazine.
The numbers have not changed because you are still talking about 1980s-vintage canopies.
Back in those days, most people loaded their canopies around 0.6 to 0.8 pounds per square foot.

Only a few, foolish young men loaded canopies near 1 pound per square foot, and they did not jump them for very long before their knees/ankles/etc. gave out.

[sparkie 0]

where i jump (holland) i 'm not even aloowed to jump a wl >1,1 and minimum size of main @ 170

1,1 till you have a higher jump # (cant recall when that is atm, i think 100 jumps then its 1,3 etc )

These rules seem to make sense to me.

I now have a Pilot 210 @ 57 jumps WL 1,05 (though i try and get it up by the usage of lots of beer heh)

On windy days I feel i could land a smaller main fine but, on NO wind days i am glad to be at 1,05 only