GQ_jumper 4 #1 December 24, 2006 "the natural" just announced that if Tito beats Chuck on the 30th he will come out of retirement to fight Tito another time. As much as I love Randy I don't think he would stand a chance against Ortiz now, he's come too far as a fighter in recent years, it would be a great fight though.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #2 December 24, 2006 Quote"the natural" just announced that if Tito beats Chuck on the 30th he will come out of retirement to fight Tito another time. As much as I love Randy I don't think he would stand a chance against Ortiz now, he's come too far as a fighter in recent years, it would be a great fight though. that would be such a bad idea. he'd get crushed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jarrodh 0 #3 December 24, 2006 QuoteQuote"the natural" just announced that if Tito beats Chuck on the 30th he will come out of retirement to fight Tito another time. As much as I love Randy I don't think he would stand a chance against Ortiz now, he's come too far as a fighter in recent years, it would be a great fight though. that would be such a bad idea. he'd get crushed. I hate Tito, but Couture would get embarassed just like Shamrock. Hes to old and slow for Ortiz who is at the top of his game and wll be riding a big wave of momentum if he beats the Iceman(which I hope and dont think will happen).2 BITS....4 BITS....6 BITS....A DOLLAR!....ALL FOR THE GATORS....STAND UP AND HOLLER!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #4 December 24, 2006 Hes to old Quote I think he proved a year or two back that old men can still pack a punch You're right though, Tito keeps getting better and Randy has stepped down. I'm about positive it's going to happen though, Liddell is about to loose his title.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites murrays 0 #5 December 24, 2006 There's a reason why athletes have to retire...You can't beat Father Time. Randy should stay retired IMO but I bet there is lots of cash on the table. If he does, I hope he doesn't get hurt.-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hipwrddude 0 #6 December 24, 2006 My take on a Couture vs Tito matchup is that styles make fights. If Tito develops into an effective striker--particularly, an effective boxer, who knows how to block, parry, throw combos and apply pressure, Couture could be in trouble. On Dec. 30th, we will see exactly how far Tito has come. On the other hand, Liddell is an excellent striker, but as Quinton "The Rampage" Jackson has shown during their Pride fight, Liddell can be cracked if unremitting pressure is applied. In other words, Liddell is a weak defensive boxer. Couture's flaws are his boxing defense and standup. He simply has not developed the visual skills demanded to effectively fend off a rapid fire striker or the base & hand speed to deliver debilitating strikes and mix up his combinations. In conclusion, I think Couture would take Tito again. Psychologically, Couture is stronger, and he is a far superior wrestler who would dog Tito at every opportunity. Now here's a newsflash fer ya, the UFC has just signed Rampage! Another, bigger news flash, Mirko Cro Cop is apparently considering the UFC between contract fights for Pride. Sylvia has been signed to 4 more fights on a heftier contract and, if he faces Cro Cop, look out! Sylvia will be chopped down with leg kicks. Or, Cro Cop could be going down hard as Sylvia has some remarkable hands. Break out the chips and beer. As Big John says, "Let's get it on!" You're always the starter in your own life! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #7 December 24, 2006 Randy beat Chuk's striking in their first matchup though ,don't forget that!! You're right though, chuck is great at circling and making space and waiting for the right time, but if youput him where he can't move or cut him off his defense is weak, and if you can keep him on theground which isn't easy, he's gone. I also think Tito has come far enough to give Randy a run for his money, it should be an interesting seriesHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
murrays 0 #5 December 24, 2006 There's a reason why athletes have to retire...You can't beat Father Time. Randy should stay retired IMO but I bet there is lots of cash on the table. If he does, I hope he doesn't get hurt.-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hipwrddude 0 #6 December 24, 2006 My take on a Couture vs Tito matchup is that styles make fights. If Tito develops into an effective striker--particularly, an effective boxer, who knows how to block, parry, throw combos and apply pressure, Couture could be in trouble. On Dec. 30th, we will see exactly how far Tito has come. On the other hand, Liddell is an excellent striker, but as Quinton "The Rampage" Jackson has shown during their Pride fight, Liddell can be cracked if unremitting pressure is applied. In other words, Liddell is a weak defensive boxer. Couture's flaws are his boxing defense and standup. He simply has not developed the visual skills demanded to effectively fend off a rapid fire striker or the base & hand speed to deliver debilitating strikes and mix up his combinations. In conclusion, I think Couture would take Tito again. Psychologically, Couture is stronger, and he is a far superior wrestler who would dog Tito at every opportunity. Now here's a newsflash fer ya, the UFC has just signed Rampage! Another, bigger news flash, Mirko Cro Cop is apparently considering the UFC between contract fights for Pride. Sylvia has been signed to 4 more fights on a heftier contract and, if he faces Cro Cop, look out! Sylvia will be chopped down with leg kicks. Or, Cro Cop could be going down hard as Sylvia has some remarkable hands. Break out the chips and beer. As Big John says, "Let's get it on!" You're always the starter in your own life! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #7 December 24, 2006 Randy beat Chuk's striking in their first matchup though ,don't forget that!! You're right though, chuck is great at circling and making space and waiting for the right time, but if youput him where he can't move or cut him off his defense is weak, and if you can keep him on theground which isn't easy, he's gone. I also think Tito has come far enough to give Randy a run for his money, it should be an interesting seriesHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
