mamajumps 0 #1 December 22, 2006 Right before I was to leave for work, my oldest son calls me and tells me that my daughters pet pig ( a pot belly) had been attacked by my aunts dogs and it was bad. I flew out of my office, barely telling my co-workers good bye. All the way home, I'm trying to console my kids, who witnessed all of this, while I'm trying to keep myself calm too. A few minutes before I make it home, Charlotte passed. Iam a total animal lover, not any kind I don't like and I'm famous for bringing home strays. But these dogs of my aunt's are totally out of control, there are 4 bullmastiffs, and a german shepard. A bit of history on these dogs is they have already killed an amazon grey parrot ( thru the cage) & they viscously chase all the horses, theirs and ours, luckily, ours don't run from them. These dogs have been trampled by the horses more than once, they shake it off and go right back. What scares me is that they are expecting 2 foals this spring. And to top all of it off, our dogs (a dalmation and australian shepard) have been missing for 3 days now. Not a very Merry Christmas so far.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowslider 0 #2 December 22, 2006 Isn't that the breed of dog that killed that lady in her hallway with the owners watching...some ties to a white supremest that was in prison? They tried to blame in oh her for being a lesbian??? Scary stuff. I love dogs but some breeds just are scary!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #3 December 22, 2006 Try putting a donkey in with your horses. I'm told a donkey will protect young animals to the point of killing dogs and coyotes. Ask an expert first. This is just what I've heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #4 December 22, 2006 Quote I love dogs but some breeds just are scary!! A breed is only a scary as the training it receives, or hasn't received. My uncle has Bull Mastiffs were fine around his 6 month old son. They treated the baby like their own, no strangers near the baby!!! I have also seen people with a Golden retriever that I wouldn't get near without having a baseball bat. It is all in how you train the dog."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #5 December 22, 2006 So will this be the Christmas ham or no? Sorry you lost a smart pet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowslider 0 #6 December 22, 2006 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/02/07/MNW32356.DTL presa caniro's were the dogs that killed that lady, it talks about them here. when I say some are scary I was more referring to they way they look, a pit-bull on steriods type of dog isn't they kind I would want to cuddle with. but you are totally right, the owner's dictate the dog's aggresiveness. we are all just products of our environments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #7 December 22, 2006 QuoteIt is all in how you train the dog.its not all in how you train the dog... for example a Labrador will generally have an insatiable desire to retrieve as it has been bred specifically for that reason but I will agree that training (especially with big dogs) is crucial to keep them in check. It sounds to me like the OP has a "pack" of dogs and the Alpha animal in the pack is one of the dogs not one of the household.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katzeye 0 #8 December 22, 2006 Are you visiting or do ya'll live together? I'm just absolutely astounded. How old are these dogs? Are they let to run loose? I'm sorry about Charlotte, that's just a horrible, completely avoidable thing to happen. Is a chicken omelette redundant? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #9 December 22, 2006 QuoteAre you visiting or do ya'll live together? I'm just absolutely astounded. How old are these dogs? Are they let to run loose? I'm sorry about Charlotte, that's just a horrible, completely avoidable thing to happen. We live next door to each other. We have a wood/wire and after Saturday electric fence between us. The dogs tore a hole in my fence and then pushed the gate in (chain link) to get to Charlotte. These dogs range in age from the German Shepard being the oldest at 3, to a female bullmastiff age 2 The male Bullmastiff being being 1, a female age 1 1/2 and a female puppy age 9 months. They are all upwards of 100 lbs or bigger. These are huge dogs, with absolutely no manners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goofyjumper 0 #10 December 22, 2006 It is all about how you train your dog. Remember dogs run in packs. If you are the pack leader they will listen to you. You need to watch that show the Dog Whisperer. Very good. I have learned so much from that show. Your dogs are in the red zone which means a human could be next! If they bite a human they could be put down. Go to this website and see if there is some info that will help you. http://www.dogpsychologycenter.com/----------------- I love and Miss you so much Honey! Orfun #3 ~ Darla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #11 December 22, 2006 Do you own a pistol? I love animals too, and some of them need to be disposed of. Sorry about Charlotte. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #12 December 22, 2006 QuoteDo you own a pistol? I love animals too, and some of them need to be disposed of. Sorry about Charlotte. linz Would a Weatherby 7mm mag do? Its loaded an ready... I dare those dogs come into my yard again, family or not, those dogs are monsters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #13 December 22, 2006 Quote Your dogs are in the red zone which means a human could be next! If they bite a human they could be put down. Go to this website and see if there is some info that will help you. http://www.dogpsychologycenter.com/ They ain't my dogs, if they were they would already be fish food.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpnjoecutaway 0 #14 December 22, 2006 QuoteQuote Your dogs are in the red zone which means a human could be next! If they bite a human they could be put down. Go to this website and see if there is some info that will help you. http://www.dogpsychologycenter.com/ They ain't my dogs, if they were they would already be fish food.... Can't blame the animal for being an animal, souds to me like the owners have let these animals get out of check. you should blame the owners for being piss pore animal owners and they should be fish food not the dogs. Classic case of no one person want to step up and actually take care of the pets they took into there home. I am soory for the loss of your pet, but don't be mad at the dog go have a talk with the owners.Westside is the best side! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #15 December 22, 2006 Quote Your dogs are in the red zone which means a human could be next! If they bite a human they could be put down. Go to this website and see if there is some info that will help you. http://www.dogpsychologycenter.com/ QuoteOnly problem now is, that once a dog has tasted fresh blood, they will continue to kill, especially in "pack" situations like my Aunt & Uncle's dogs. Quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites goofyjumper 0 #16 December 22, 2006 QuoteQuote Your dogs are in the red zone which means a human could be next! If they bite a human they could be put down. Go to this website and see if there is some info that will help you. http://www.dogpsychologycenter.com/ They ain't my dogs, if they were they would already be fish food.... Sorry I miss read it. You should have a talk with the owners.----------------- I love and Miss you so much Honey! Orfun #3 ~ Darla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpnjoecutaway 0 #17 December 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Your dogs are in the red zone which means a human could be next! If they bite a human they could be put down. Go to this website and see if there is some info that will help you. http://www.dogpsychologycenter.com/ Only problem now is, that once a dog has tasted fresh blood, they will continue to kill, especially in "pack" situations like my Aunt & Uncle's dogs. This is why we see all these hunting dogs that have tasted fresh blood out killing everything in site , I forgot about all those labs and retrievers out randomly killing kids and others petsWestside is the best side! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peregrinerose 0 #18 December 22, 2006 Have you considered calling animal control? These are now dogs with an established history of attacking and killing. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sartre 0 #19 December 22, 2006 What was your aunt's reaction to these events? I'm assuming you've had a conversation with her about it. What is she going to do to control her animals? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mamajumps 0 #20 December 22, 2006 Quote This is why we see all these hunting dogs that have tasted fresh blood out killing everything in site , I forgot about all those labs and retrievers out randomly killing kids and others pets The difference is hunting dogs are trained, and they act on their owners commands, and unless they are pit bills, that are used for hog hunting, they rarely kill, the prey is usually killed by the hunter first. Deer dogs: are trained to run dogs past the hunters, Retirevers: retrieve dead or dying birds that have been shot, Coon Dogs: tree the coons, which are then shot by the hunters, occasionally the dogs will catch the coon, but will release it on the hunters command. Beagles: used for hunting rabbits, or other small prey, just flush it out of brush, and then the hunter kills it. Being a country girl who has grown up hunting, I can't think of any situation where Farmer Joe sits in his truck and sends ol Fido out to kill a deer, or a bird or any other animal. Regardless, this was a viscious pack act, that was un called for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mamajumps 0 #21 December 22, 2006 QuoteWhat was your aunt's reaction to these events? I'm assuming you've had a conversation with her about it. What is she going to do to control her animals? My aunt who is a very sweet lady, but very dense and sheltered refuses to see these animals as monsters, nothing will be done, she told the dogs she was mad at them... ewwww... and they are putting up an electric fence along the inside of the fence between our properties this weekend. She offered to replace Charlotte, but why so my kids can go thru this again in a few weeks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #22 December 22, 2006 Only problem now is, that once a dog has tasted fresh blood, they will continue to kill, especially in "pack" situations like my Aunt & Uncle's dogs. Quote I'm not a dog expert but...there is a lotta truth in that statement, at least from my limited experience. You can 'train' all you want but there is something way down inside of them, of a pack mentality nature, that I don't think you can 'train' out. I've seen it with my three dogs when they don't know a human is around... You have a tough situation on your hands, I hope you can arrive at some kind of situation that you don't have to fear for the safety of your pets and your kids. Sorry for your loss. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpnjoecutaway 0 #23 December 22, 2006 QuoteQuote This is why we see all these hunting dogs that have tasted fresh blood out killing everything in site , I forgot about all those labs and retrievers out randomly killing kids and others pets The difference is hunting dogs are trained, and they act on their owners commands, and unless they are pit bills, that are used for hog hunting, they rarely kill, the prey is usually killed by the hunter first. Deer dogs: are trained to run dogs past the hunters, Retirevers: retrieve dead or dying birds that have been shot, Coon Dogs: tree the coons, which are then shot by the hunters, occasionally the dogs will catch the coon, but will release it on the hunters command. Beagles: used for hunting rabbits, or other small prey, just flush it out of brush, and then the hunter kills it. Being a country girl who has grown up hunting, I can't think of any situation where Farmer Joe sits in his truck and sends ol Fido out to kill a deer, or a bird or any other animal. Regardless, this was a viscious pack act, that was un called for. Yes it was a pack act being dogs running in a pack things like this can happen, they are animals and without an owner who gives a shit they will act as if they are animals( oh wait they are animals). You are mad at the dogs for doing something any dog would do if left to do whatever and not being taken care of like pets should be. Next time this happens throw your aunt to the pack and then break up the pack adopt out two or three of them to a rescue group and then sit back and have a nice hog roast.Westside is the best side! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Katzeye 0 #24 December 22, 2006 I figured so much about your Aunt. What a tough situation to be in. I would make it adamantly clear to her that those dogs are NEVER, EVER to be left outside unattended. Even with a hot wire. I hope you put a good 6k volts through that thing, because most hot wires won't phase dogs that size or mentality. How about building a nice big dog run for the beasts? If she won't get rid of em, or won't train em, at least cage em. Is a chicken omelette redundant? 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goofyjumper 0 #16 December 22, 2006 QuoteQuote Your dogs are in the red zone which means a human could be next! If they bite a human they could be put down. Go to this website and see if there is some info that will help you. http://www.dogpsychologycenter.com/ They ain't my dogs, if they were they would already be fish food.... Sorry I miss read it. You should have a talk with the owners.----------------- I love and Miss you so much Honey! Orfun #3 ~ Darla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpnjoecutaway 0 #17 December 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Your dogs are in the red zone which means a human could be next! If they bite a human they could be put down. Go to this website and see if there is some info that will help you. http://www.dogpsychologycenter.com/ Only problem now is, that once a dog has tasted fresh blood, they will continue to kill, especially in "pack" situations like my Aunt & Uncle's dogs. This is why we see all these hunting dogs that have tasted fresh blood out killing everything in site , I forgot about all those labs and retrievers out randomly killing kids and others petsWestside is the best side! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peregrinerose 0 #18 December 22, 2006 Have you considered calling animal control? These are now dogs with an established history of attacking and killing. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sartre 0 #19 December 22, 2006 What was your aunt's reaction to these events? I'm assuming you've had a conversation with her about it. What is she going to do to control her animals? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mamajumps 0 #20 December 22, 2006 Quote This is why we see all these hunting dogs that have tasted fresh blood out killing everything in site , I forgot about all those labs and retrievers out randomly killing kids and others pets The difference is hunting dogs are trained, and they act on their owners commands, and unless they are pit bills, that are used for hog hunting, they rarely kill, the prey is usually killed by the hunter first. Deer dogs: are trained to run dogs past the hunters, Retirevers: retrieve dead or dying birds that have been shot, Coon Dogs: tree the coons, which are then shot by the hunters, occasionally the dogs will catch the coon, but will release it on the hunters command. Beagles: used for hunting rabbits, or other small prey, just flush it out of brush, and then the hunter kills it. Being a country girl who has grown up hunting, I can't think of any situation where Farmer Joe sits in his truck and sends ol Fido out to kill a deer, or a bird or any other animal. Regardless, this was a viscious pack act, that was un called for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mamajumps 0 #21 December 22, 2006 QuoteWhat was your aunt's reaction to these events? I'm assuming you've had a conversation with her about it. What is she going to do to control her animals? My aunt who is a very sweet lady, but very dense and sheltered refuses to see these animals as monsters, nothing will be done, she told the dogs she was mad at them... ewwww... and they are putting up an electric fence along the inside of the fence between our properties this weekend. She offered to replace Charlotte, but why so my kids can go thru this again in a few weeks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #22 December 22, 2006 Only problem now is, that once a dog has tasted fresh blood, they will continue to kill, especially in "pack" situations like my Aunt & Uncle's dogs. Quote I'm not a dog expert but...there is a lotta truth in that statement, at least from my limited experience. You can 'train' all you want but there is something way down inside of them, of a pack mentality nature, that I don't think you can 'train' out. I've seen it with my three dogs when they don't know a human is around... You have a tough situation on your hands, I hope you can arrive at some kind of situation that you don't have to fear for the safety of your pets and your kids. Sorry for your loss. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpnjoecutaway 0 #23 December 22, 2006 QuoteQuote This is why we see all these hunting dogs that have tasted fresh blood out killing everything in site , I forgot about all those labs and retrievers out randomly killing kids and others pets The difference is hunting dogs are trained, and they act on their owners commands, and unless they are pit bills, that are used for hog hunting, they rarely kill, the prey is usually killed by the hunter first. Deer dogs: are trained to run dogs past the hunters, Retirevers: retrieve dead or dying birds that have been shot, Coon Dogs: tree the coons, which are then shot by the hunters, occasionally the dogs will catch the coon, but will release it on the hunters command. Beagles: used for hunting rabbits, or other small prey, just flush it out of brush, and then the hunter kills it. Being a country girl who has grown up hunting, I can't think of any situation where Farmer Joe sits in his truck and sends ol Fido out to kill a deer, or a bird or any other animal. Regardless, this was a viscious pack act, that was un called for. Yes it was a pack act being dogs running in a pack things like this can happen, they are animals and without an owner who gives a shit they will act as if they are animals( oh wait they are animals). You are mad at the dogs for doing something any dog would do if left to do whatever and not being taken care of like pets should be. Next time this happens throw your aunt to the pack and then break up the pack adopt out two or three of them to a rescue group and then sit back and have a nice hog roast.Westside is the best side! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Katzeye 0 #24 December 22, 2006 I figured so much about your Aunt. What a tough situation to be in. I would make it adamantly clear to her that those dogs are NEVER, EVER to be left outside unattended. Even with a hot wire. I hope you put a good 6k volts through that thing, because most hot wires won't phase dogs that size or mentality. How about building a nice big dog run for the beasts? If she won't get rid of em, or won't train em, at least cage em. Is a chicken omelette redundant? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Icon134 0 #25 December 22, 2006 QuoteThe difference is hunting dogs are trained, and they act on their owners commands you said it all here... a hunting dog is acting directly on command... it sounds to me like you have a problem and I hope you manage to get it resolved... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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peregrinerose 0 #18 December 22, 2006 Have you considered calling animal control? These are now dogs with an established history of attacking and killing. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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mamajumps 0 #20 December 22, 2006 Quote This is why we see all these hunting dogs that have tasted fresh blood out killing everything in site , I forgot about all those labs and retrievers out randomly killing kids and others pets The difference is hunting dogs are trained, and they act on their owners commands, and unless they are pit bills, that are used for hog hunting, they rarely kill, the prey is usually killed by the hunter first. Deer dogs: are trained to run dogs past the hunters, Retirevers: retrieve dead or dying birds that have been shot, Coon Dogs: tree the coons, which are then shot by the hunters, occasionally the dogs will catch the coon, but will release it on the hunters command. Beagles: used for hunting rabbits, or other small prey, just flush it out of brush, and then the hunter kills it. Being a country girl who has grown up hunting, I can't think of any situation where Farmer Joe sits in his truck and sends ol Fido out to kill a deer, or a bird or any other animal. Regardless, this was a viscious pack act, that was un called for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #21 December 22, 2006 QuoteWhat was your aunt's reaction to these events? I'm assuming you've had a conversation with her about it. What is she going to do to control her animals? My aunt who is a very sweet lady, but very dense and sheltered refuses to see these animals as monsters, nothing will be done, she told the dogs she was mad at them... ewwww... and they are putting up an electric fence along the inside of the fence between our properties this weekend. She offered to replace Charlotte, but why so my kids can go thru this again in a few weeks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #22 December 22, 2006 Only problem now is, that once a dog has tasted fresh blood, they will continue to kill, especially in "pack" situations like my Aunt & Uncle's dogs. Quote I'm not a dog expert but...there is a lotta truth in that statement, at least from my limited experience. You can 'train' all you want but there is something way down inside of them, of a pack mentality nature, that I don't think you can 'train' out. I've seen it with my three dogs when they don't know a human is around... You have a tough situation on your hands, I hope you can arrive at some kind of situation that you don't have to fear for the safety of your pets and your kids. Sorry for your loss. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpnjoecutaway 0 #23 December 22, 2006 QuoteQuote This is why we see all these hunting dogs that have tasted fresh blood out killing everything in site , I forgot about all those labs and retrievers out randomly killing kids and others pets The difference is hunting dogs are trained, and they act on their owners commands, and unless they are pit bills, that are used for hog hunting, they rarely kill, the prey is usually killed by the hunter first. Deer dogs: are trained to run dogs past the hunters, Retirevers: retrieve dead or dying birds that have been shot, Coon Dogs: tree the coons, which are then shot by the hunters, occasionally the dogs will catch the coon, but will release it on the hunters command. Beagles: used for hunting rabbits, or other small prey, just flush it out of brush, and then the hunter kills it. Being a country girl who has grown up hunting, I can't think of any situation where Farmer Joe sits in his truck and sends ol Fido out to kill a deer, or a bird or any other animal. Regardless, this was a viscious pack act, that was un called for. Yes it was a pack act being dogs running in a pack things like this can happen, they are animals and without an owner who gives a shit they will act as if they are animals( oh wait they are animals). You are mad at the dogs for doing something any dog would do if left to do whatever and not being taken care of like pets should be. Next time this happens throw your aunt to the pack and then break up the pack adopt out two or three of them to a rescue group and then sit back and have a nice hog roast.Westside is the best side! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Katzeye 0 #24 December 22, 2006 I figured so much about your Aunt. What a tough situation to be in. I would make it adamantly clear to her that those dogs are NEVER, EVER to be left outside unattended. Even with a hot wire. I hope you put a good 6k volts through that thing, because most hot wires won't phase dogs that size or mentality. How about building a nice big dog run for the beasts? If she won't get rid of em, or won't train em, at least cage em. Is a chicken omelette redundant? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Icon134 0 #25 December 22, 2006 QuoteThe difference is hunting dogs are trained, and they act on their owners commands you said it all here... a hunting dog is acting directly on command... it sounds to me like you have a problem and I hope you manage to get it resolved... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
jumpnjoecutaway 0 #23 December 22, 2006 QuoteQuote This is why we see all these hunting dogs that have tasted fresh blood out killing everything in site , I forgot about all those labs and retrievers out randomly killing kids and others pets The difference is hunting dogs are trained, and they act on their owners commands, and unless they are pit bills, that are used for hog hunting, they rarely kill, the prey is usually killed by the hunter first. Deer dogs: are trained to run dogs past the hunters, Retirevers: retrieve dead or dying birds that have been shot, Coon Dogs: tree the coons, which are then shot by the hunters, occasionally the dogs will catch the coon, but will release it on the hunters command. Beagles: used for hunting rabbits, or other small prey, just flush it out of brush, and then the hunter kills it. Being a country girl who has grown up hunting, I can't think of any situation where Farmer Joe sits in his truck and sends ol Fido out to kill a deer, or a bird or any other animal. Regardless, this was a viscious pack act, that was un called for. Yes it was a pack act being dogs running in a pack things like this can happen, they are animals and without an owner who gives a shit they will act as if they are animals( oh wait they are animals). You are mad at the dogs for doing something any dog would do if left to do whatever and not being taken care of like pets should be. Next time this happens throw your aunt to the pack and then break up the pack adopt out two or three of them to a rescue group and then sit back and have a nice hog roast.Westside is the best side! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katzeye 0 #24 December 22, 2006 I figured so much about your Aunt. What a tough situation to be in. I would make it adamantly clear to her that those dogs are NEVER, EVER to be left outside unattended. Even with a hot wire. I hope you put a good 6k volts through that thing, because most hot wires won't phase dogs that size or mentality. How about building a nice big dog run for the beasts? If she won't get rid of em, or won't train em, at least cage em. Is a chicken omelette redundant? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #25 December 22, 2006 QuoteThe difference is hunting dogs are trained, and they act on their owners commands you said it all here... a hunting dog is acting directly on command... it sounds to me like you have a problem and I hope you manage to get it resolved... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
