TheBachelor 5 #101 October 25, 2006 QuoteQuotewhat if i am 22? what soes thathave to do with anything? I know i want this, I have been wanting it since i was 16. do YOU have a problem with this? My brother went through that, too. He'd said all his life that he didn't want children, didn't ever plan on having kids, and wasn't ever going to want to. He went to the family Dr. and told him that, and told him that he wanted a vasectomy. My family Dr. told him to wait, to see if that really was his choice. The produndity of Dr.s comment was simply this: someday, you might meet a woman who wants children. And you want to give them to her. When that time comes, you will regret that you had a vasectomy. So wait for a while until you see how your life plays out. Use a condom instead, and have her use birth control. But wait. That statement, told to my brother when he was about your age and knowing the idential things you know, prevented my brother from having a vasectomy. I have two neices and a nephew now, thanks to my family Dr,s wisdom and foresight. I'd suggest you wait a while. You might indeed find the woman of your dreams. You might indeed want to create life with her. And if that's so, what a horrible thing to realize you can't - because of a decision made when you were single, young, and disillusioned. What you do with your body isn't my concern. But, as I see it, you've got some living to do before you really realize what you want, and what your life will be. 'Til then, don't do something which is nearly impossible to reverse *(and I say nearly because it can be done on occasion...not something to count on). So wait...it can't hurt. Ciels- Michele I've never wanted kids either, and that hasn't changed in 25+ years. Now I'm 42. I don't agree with the comment "So wait...it can't hurt." What if you use condoms or some other sort of birth control, and that method fails (nothing is 100% except abstinence). For the next 18-21 years you will be at least financially responsible for something you knew you never wanted in the first place. I don't necessarily agree with the statement that some day you'll meet a woman, and you'll want to "give them to her." Women I've dated have always known from early on that I never wanted kids. Even though I would have married one or more if that wasn't an issue, I wasn't going to change my core feelings for someone else. On the same note, I never expected someone to change their feelings about wanting kids just because I didn't want them. If they have always wanted them, they should have them. Just not with me. [/rant] So the bottom line of this long-winded reply is to get the vasectomy if you want it. Explain to your doctor what your reasons are, and if he won't do it, you'll have to find someone else who will.There are battered women? I've been eating 'em plain all of these years... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #102 October 25, 2006 It also does not show up on men very easily. I read a few years ago that 98% of sexually active american woman had HPV. Sucks for you. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #103 October 25, 2006 QuoteIt also does not show up on men very easily. I read a few years ago that 98% of sexually active american woman had HPV. Sucks for you. There is no way to test for men.... 98% is WAY high....more like 70% of people (not just women) Guys just walk around passing it around to anyone they sleep with, in addition it can take months to go away. The virus can sit dormant for YEARS before doing any damage as well. There is a bunch of info on this board about this already..She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #104 October 25, 2006 QuoteGuys just walk around passing it around to anyone they sleep with, in addition it can take months to go away. Why guys and not girls? .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #105 October 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteGuys just walk around passing it around to anyone they sleep with, in addition it can take months to go away. Why guys and not girls? The comment was more that men are just carriers....yes women give it to men who pass it along...it goes both ways....but men never have to hear "You have cancer" because of it.She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #106 October 25, 2006 QuoteWhy guys and not girls? You ever heard of guys getting cervical cancer? Thats what HCP can manifest to...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #107 October 25, 2006 because guys had a vasectomy and thought they couldnt catch diseases fuck, you not been following this thread.....I can't believe the die hard religious fanatics havent chimed in about how its wrong contraceptionhttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #108 October 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteWhy guys and not girls? You ever heard of guys getting cervical cancer? Thats what HCP can manifest to... bummer .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #109 October 25, 2006 QuoteThought I would add a moral adult viewpoint to this conversation. Dunno whether this has been pointed out or not in this thread. But your situation is ripe for lots of ANAL SEX. Don't snip it. Take blatant advantage of your girlfriends desire to not use the pill. Hooray. edit for poooor spulingI'll be chatting to your GF at a later date Pedder You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #110 October 26, 2006 Just bring yourself and tell him what you told us. I had a vasectomy 14 years ago, after fathering two kids. But I still had to go for the interview and explain why I wanted one. The doctor doesn't want to get sued if somebody changes their mind. It's not bad to make you think over your reasons either. You really should think it over too. If you say you'd never be a good father, I'll take your word for it. But you might want to marry and some women won't marry a guy who can't give them children, it's something to consider. But ultimately, it's your choice and if you're really sure, then you should be able to get one. They ARE reversable, but that's not a sure thing. But don't sweat it, you should be able to persuade the doctor. You could always offer to sign a waiver..... Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #111 October 26, 2006 oo lookie a dead horse, and over there a stick... hmmmm ....what can we do with thoseYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowwhite 0 #112 October 26, 2006 I had my tubes tied as my 23rd birthday present. If you want kids later, adopt. Tell the doc you are being responsible. Mine admired my courage and told me so.skydiveTaylorville.org freefallbeth@yahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #113 October 26, 2006 Quoteoo lookie a dead horse, and over there a stick... hmmmm ....what can we do with those Maybe this?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #114 October 26, 2006 Guys.. let let the topic die on its own or keep talking about the subject at hand. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #115 October 26, 2006 QuoteGuys.. let let the topic die on its own or keep talking about the subject at hand. dude. seriously. i never thought i caould piss sooo many people off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #116 October 26, 2006 Not everyone was pissed. Good luck at your appointment on the 2nd. Karen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #117 October 26, 2006 QuoteNot everyone was pissed. Good luck at your appointment on the 2nd. Karen thanks Karen, I know i didnt piss everyone off. but it was close -SPACE- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skolls081102 0 #118 October 26, 2006 I don't agree with getting a vasectomy at the age of 22. I think it's too early in life to make that decision- however, I don't know you. So I'll give you advice on what I think might convince a doctor to do the surgery. Some sound advice- do not- I repeat, do not tell the doctor "If you don't do the surgery for me, I'll go find someone else who will." He will absolutley tell you to have a nice day- because he's not going to do the surgery. Instead, just tell him about your life- you're a Skydiver/BASE jumper. Tell him you understand the inherint (sp) risk in participating in this sport, and you wouldn't want to have a child fatherless beause of an accident related to the sport. Also explain that you have wanted this surgery for over 6 years. Explain all the points about not liking/wanting kids. You need to convince this doctor, that a vasectomy for a 22 year old man is the best choice. Telling the doctor that you froze some sperm could work for or against you. On one hand, he may see it as you covering all the bases, and being responsible if you decide later in life to have kids. On the other hand, he may see you freezing your sperm as you not being 100% sure that you don't want to have kids. So I'd be careful using that in your argument. Reality- I think you will have a hard time finding a doctor to do the surgery. But good luck to you. The sole intention, is learning to fly.Condition grounded, but determined to try.Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies.Tongue tied and twisted, just an Earth bound misfit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #119 October 26, 2006 no very few were pissed of, most were just pointing out the pink elephant in thel iving rooms that masquerades as a big chipYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #120 October 26, 2006 Quoteno very few were pissed of, most were just pointing out the pink elephant in thel iving rooms that masquerades as a big chip hehe. he. -SPACE- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #121 October 26, 2006 Tell him you know that this is not a form of birth control, it is the end of being fertile. Tell him you understand that this is forever and that you have made the decision and have no intention of ever producing a child. It worked for me, 12 years ago.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hexadecimal 0 #122 October 26, 2006 QuoteI don't understand why so many of you are pushing him to have biological children of his own someday, seriously, why the hell do you care? Misery loves company. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #123 November 2, 2006 hmmm... on the paper i needed to fill out before my interview appointment it asked 'name the reasons you are seeing your urologist' i wrote - "I guess i have the weird ability to reproduce" "i kinda want to change that" when did this problem start? "puberty" my appointment was todaythe interview with the doc took about three minutes. i guess i forgot to tell you guys that i am i jedi, and i used jedi mind tricks on my doc. doc- 'so calvin, how many children do you have?' me- "none" doc- 'and you want to keep it that way?' (chuckle) me- " thats the idea" doc- 'ok, talk to the secretary in the waiting room, she will set you up' I have the procedure on the 30th. that was pretty easy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #124 November 2, 2006 Good for you May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #125 November 2, 2006 All that angst for nothing. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
