matt1215 0 #1 October 31, 2006 On my flight today, I got to thinking about why I wouldn't want to jump out. 1. Decompressing the cabin at 35k would piss a lot of people off. 2. Jump run on a 757's a bit fast. 3. The spot would be WAY off. 4. It's f'n cold that high, air's real thin too. 5. I didn't bring my parachute Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #2 October 31, 2006 QuoteOn my flight today, I got to thinking about why I wouldn't want to jump out. 1. Decompressing the cabin at 35k would piss a lot of people off. 2. Jump run on a 757's a bit fast. 3. The spot would be WAY off. 4. It's f'n cold that high, air's real thin too. 5. I didn't bring my parachute I'd probably put those in reverse order. But that's just me. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt1215 0 #3 October 31, 2006 Makes sense. I wasn't really thinking of an order. Really, any of those alone would keep me on the plane. ETA: Except for maybe #4 with a good jacket Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tvandijck 0 #4 October 31, 2006 whaa... considering there is no air to breath the first 3-4 minutes of freefall... you'd be death before arriving the deck anyway... But still... I take my canopy as hand lugage... just in case :) hehehe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #5 October 31, 2006 Quotewhaa... considering there is no air to breath the first 3-4 minutes of freefall... you'd be death before arriving the deck anyway... Not true. A jump from 35,000 without a bailout system wouldn't be the most intelligent move in the universe, but it's far from unsurvivable. It'd take a minute or so (probably less due to thinner air) to get down to 24,000MSL, approximately where I've jumped from without bailout oxygen. Another 30-40 seconds or so and you're into quite a bit thicker air. You might be a little loopy as you pass into the "normal" skydiving altitudes, but I'd say chances are good for a person to be quite functional in time to safely get a canopy out, especially if he/she is a healthy non-smoker. EDIT: That having been said, you'd be one chilly mofo, that's for sure. EDIT2: I didn't take into account "Putting on the rig and getting out of the damned plane", I know, but you only mentioned the freefall part. You could use an in-aircraft mask while you prepare.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #6 October 31, 2006 QuoteQuote EDIT2: I didn't take into account "Putting on the rig and getting out of the damned plane", I know, but you only mentioned the freefall part. You could use an in-aircraft mask while you prepare. Whilst you try to beat the crap out the hundred other people who are dead set on getting your rig from you, for themselvesYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites grue 1 #7 October 31, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote EDIT2: I didn't take into account "Putting on the rig and getting out of the damned plane", I know, but you only mentioned the freefall part. You could use an in-aircraft mask while you prepare. Whilst you try to beat the crap out the hundred other people who are dead set on getting your rig from you, for themselves That's why I'm already wearing mine when I get on the plane, under a hooded sweatshirt. I just walk like I'm a hunchback, never gets a second look cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MarkM 0 #8 October 31, 2006 Quote It'd take a minute or so (probably less due to thinner air) to get down to 24,000MSL, approximately where I've jumped from without bailout oxygen. Another 30-40 seconds or so and you're into quite a bit thicker air. You might be a little loopy as you pass into the "normal" skydiving altitudes, but I'd say chances are good for a person to be quite functional in time to safely get a canopy out, especially if he/she is a healthy non-smoker. Don't think you'd have a minute to work with: Tlme of useful consciousness Altitude (ft) without oxygen 40,000 15 seconds 35.000 20 seconds 30,000 30 seconds 28,000 1 minute 26,000 2 minutes 24,000 3 minutes 22,000 6 minutes 20,000 10 minutes 15.000 Indefinite Doesn't make much sense because we can all hold our breath for longer than that, but I think it has to do with the lack of pressure and how blood transfers O2 around in your body. Maybe you'd wake back up before hitting the ground. I know someone who passed out on a 24k jump and woke up at 8k or so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites grue 1 #9 October 31, 2006 QuoteQuote It'd take a minute or so (probably less due to thinner air) to get down to 24,000MSL, approximately where I've jumped from without bailout oxygen. Another 30-40 seconds or so and you're into quite a bit thicker air. You might be a little loopy as you pass into the "normal" skydiving altitudes, but I'd say chances are good for a person to be quite functional in time to safely get a canopy out, especially if he/she is a healthy non-smoker. Don't think you'd have a minute to work with: Tlme of useful consciousness Altitude (ft) without oxygen 40,000 15 seconds 35.000 20 seconds 30,000 30 seconds 28,000 1 minute 26,000 2 minutes 24,000 3 minutes 22,000 6 minutes 20,000 10 minutes 15.000 Indefinite Doesn't make much sense because we can all hold our breath for longer than that, but I think it has to do with the lack of pressure and how blood transfers O2 around in your body. Maybe you'd wake back up before hitting the ground. I know someone who passed out on a 24k jump and woke up at 8k or so. Note though, it's time of USEFUL consciousness. You might be tumbling, but you're still awake, and you recover from conscious tomfuckery faster than you do hypoxic unconsciousness.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #10 October 31, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote Doesn't make much sense because we can all hold our breath for longer than that, but I think it has to do with the lack of pressure and how blood transfers O2 around in your body. Maybe you'd wake back up before hitting the ground. I know someone who passed out on a 24k jump and woke up at 8k or so. Note though, it's time of USEFUL consciousness. You might be tumbling, but you're still awake, and you recover from conscious tomfuckery faster than you do hypoxic unconsciousness. I think it has more to do with the partial presure ofO2 in the air, you need a minimum ammount in your body to be able to maintain conciousness. A residual volume of O2You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shermanator 4 #11 October 31, 2006 hmmm... last time i was in a commercial plane, they had actual oxygen tanks near the flight attendants jumpseat... just grab one of those, with the mask, turn it on, and hold on tight.. so what if you are unstable holding it, .. you just need it till get to a breathable altitude, then ditch the thing, track away from it, deployCLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Icon134 0 #12 October 31, 2006 QuoteNote though, it's time of USEFUL consciousness. You might be tumbling, but you're still awake, and you recover from conscious tomfuckery faster than you do hypoxic unconsciousness.from what I understand about the world highest Tandem skydive (w/o the TM having Oxygen) the pair jumped from 30,100 ft the Tandem Master didn't take oxygen on the plane (the passenger did) thus the TM lost consensiousness for for a bit before tossing the drouge... around 9,000 ft. I understand he doesn't suggest others trying it themselves... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 221 #13 October 31, 2006 Quotewhaa... considering there is no air to breath the first 3-4 minutes of freefall... you'd be death before arriving the deck anyway... But still... I take my canopy as hand lugage... just in case :) hehehe. What would you be doing in your next 3 to 4 minutes? Besides Bouncing . . . . if you get more than 3 - 4 minutes of freefall - you are alot higher than 32000 ft.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites klafollette 0 #14 October 31, 2006 Would there be any conceivable way to get your Cypres to work, just in case you're unconcious on the way down? If you turned it on before boarding, it wouldn't be accurate, being that the cabin would be pressurized around 8-10K, then suddenly depressurize. I think it would probably shut itself down at some point. If you turned it on after de-pressurization, maybe you could "quickly" set the alternate landing altitude? to be 30,000 lower than your take off altitude Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 2fat2fly 0 #15 October 31, 2006 Quote I'd probably put those in reverse order. But that's just me. Well, men always think of others first, we're just compassionate and emotionally supportive like thatI am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Buried 0 #16 October 31, 2006 Quoteif you get more than 3 - 4 minutes of freefall - you are alot higher than 32000 ft or you are in a wingsuit from 21/22k ft Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matt1215 0 #17 October 31, 2006 Thanks Mark, was wondering about that . Probably less time for me since I normally drink on planes that I don't intend to jump out of. I guess taking the oxygen tank and ditching it around 20k would be the way to go. Not sure how one would set their Cypres, but I like the idea of putting the rig under a hoodie. And the dude jumping a tandem w/o oxygen from 30k, WTFO? QuoteDon't think you'd have a minute to work with: Tlme of useful consciousness Altitude (ft) without oxygen 40,000 15 seconds 35.000 20 seconds 30,000 30 seconds 28,000 1 minute 26,000 2 minutes 24,000 3 minutes 22,000 6 minutes 20,000 10 minutes 15.000 Indefinite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigway 4 #18 October 31, 2006 That kittinger guy got 4 minutes and that was from over 100 thousand feet. Though he did open at 18 thousand feet. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . 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grue 1 #7 October 31, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote EDIT2: I didn't take into account "Putting on the rig and getting out of the damned plane", I know, but you only mentioned the freefall part. You could use an in-aircraft mask while you prepare. Whilst you try to beat the crap out the hundred other people who are dead set on getting your rig from you, for themselves That's why I'm already wearing mine when I get on the plane, under a hooded sweatshirt. I just walk like I'm a hunchback, never gets a second look cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MarkM 0 #8 October 31, 2006 Quote It'd take a minute or so (probably less due to thinner air) to get down to 24,000MSL, approximately where I've jumped from without bailout oxygen. Another 30-40 seconds or so and you're into quite a bit thicker air. You might be a little loopy as you pass into the "normal" skydiving altitudes, but I'd say chances are good for a person to be quite functional in time to safely get a canopy out, especially if he/she is a healthy non-smoker. Don't think you'd have a minute to work with: Tlme of useful consciousness Altitude (ft) without oxygen 40,000 15 seconds 35.000 20 seconds 30,000 30 seconds 28,000 1 minute 26,000 2 minutes 24,000 3 minutes 22,000 6 minutes 20,000 10 minutes 15.000 Indefinite Doesn't make much sense because we can all hold our breath for longer than that, but I think it has to do with the lack of pressure and how blood transfers O2 around in your body. Maybe you'd wake back up before hitting the ground. I know someone who passed out on a 24k jump and woke up at 8k or so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites grue 1 #9 October 31, 2006 QuoteQuote It'd take a minute or so (probably less due to thinner air) to get down to 24,000MSL, approximately where I've jumped from without bailout oxygen. Another 30-40 seconds or so and you're into quite a bit thicker air. You might be a little loopy as you pass into the "normal" skydiving altitudes, but I'd say chances are good for a person to be quite functional in time to safely get a canopy out, especially if he/she is a healthy non-smoker. Don't think you'd have a minute to work with: Tlme of useful consciousness Altitude (ft) without oxygen 40,000 15 seconds 35.000 20 seconds 30,000 30 seconds 28,000 1 minute 26,000 2 minutes 24,000 3 minutes 22,000 6 minutes 20,000 10 minutes 15.000 Indefinite Doesn't make much sense because we can all hold our breath for longer than that, but I think it has to do with the lack of pressure and how blood transfers O2 around in your body. Maybe you'd wake back up before hitting the ground. I know someone who passed out on a 24k jump and woke up at 8k or so. Note though, it's time of USEFUL consciousness. You might be tumbling, but you're still awake, and you recover from conscious tomfuckery faster than you do hypoxic unconsciousness.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #10 October 31, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote Doesn't make much sense because we can all hold our breath for longer than that, but I think it has to do with the lack of pressure and how blood transfers O2 around in your body. Maybe you'd wake back up before hitting the ground. I know someone who passed out on a 24k jump and woke up at 8k or so. Note though, it's time of USEFUL consciousness. You might be tumbling, but you're still awake, and you recover from conscious tomfuckery faster than you do hypoxic unconsciousness. I think it has more to do with the partial presure ofO2 in the air, you need a minimum ammount in your body to be able to maintain conciousness. A residual volume of O2You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shermanator 4 #11 October 31, 2006 hmmm... last time i was in a commercial plane, they had actual oxygen tanks near the flight attendants jumpseat... just grab one of those, with the mask, turn it on, and hold on tight.. so what if you are unstable holding it, .. you just need it till get to a breathable altitude, then ditch the thing, track away from it, deployCLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Icon134 0 #12 October 31, 2006 QuoteNote though, it's time of USEFUL consciousness. You might be tumbling, but you're still awake, and you recover from conscious tomfuckery faster than you do hypoxic unconsciousness.from what I understand about the world highest Tandem skydive (w/o the TM having Oxygen) the pair jumped from 30,100 ft the Tandem Master didn't take oxygen on the plane (the passenger did) thus the TM lost consensiousness for for a bit before tossing the drouge... around 9,000 ft. I understand he doesn't suggest others trying it themselves... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 221 #13 October 31, 2006 Quotewhaa... considering there is no air to breath the first 3-4 minutes of freefall... you'd be death before arriving the deck anyway... But still... I take my canopy as hand lugage... just in case :) hehehe. What would you be doing in your next 3 to 4 minutes? Besides Bouncing . . . . if you get more than 3 - 4 minutes of freefall - you are alot higher than 32000 ft.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites klafollette 0 #14 October 31, 2006 Would there be any conceivable way to get your Cypres to work, just in case you're unconcious on the way down? If you turned it on before boarding, it wouldn't be accurate, being that the cabin would be pressurized around 8-10K, then suddenly depressurize. I think it would probably shut itself down at some point. If you turned it on after de-pressurization, maybe you could "quickly" set the alternate landing altitude? to be 30,000 lower than your take off altitude Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 2fat2fly 0 #15 October 31, 2006 Quote I'd probably put those in reverse order. But that's just me. Well, men always think of others first, we're just compassionate and emotionally supportive like thatI am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Buried 0 #16 October 31, 2006 Quoteif you get more than 3 - 4 minutes of freefall - you are alot higher than 32000 ft or you are in a wingsuit from 21/22k ft Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matt1215 0 #17 October 31, 2006 Thanks Mark, was wondering about that . Probably less time for me since I normally drink on planes that I don't intend to jump out of. I guess taking the oxygen tank and ditching it around 20k would be the way to go. Not sure how one would set their Cypres, but I like the idea of putting the rig under a hoodie. And the dude jumping a tandem w/o oxygen from 30k, WTFO? QuoteDon't think you'd have a minute to work with: Tlme of useful consciousness Altitude (ft) without oxygen 40,000 15 seconds 35.000 20 seconds 30,000 30 seconds 28,000 1 minute 26,000 2 minutes 24,000 3 minutes 22,000 6 minutes 20,000 10 minutes 15.000 Indefinite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigway 4 #18 October 31, 2006 That kittinger guy got 4 minutes and that was from over 100 thousand feet. Though he did open at 18 thousand feet. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BASE1036 0 #19 October 31, 2006 Quotehmmm... last time i was in a commercial plane, they had actual oxygen tanks near the flight attendants jumpseat... just grab one of those, with the mask, turn it on, and hold on tight.. so what if you are unstable holding it, .. you just need it till get to a breathable altitude, then ditch the thing, track away from it, deploy I can see it now the FBI will be hijacking this thread in 5....4....3....2....Daniel Protect Yourself and Your Loved Ones Tasers - Pepper Spray - Stun Guns and more! www.dallassecuritysupply.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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MarkM 0 #8 October 31, 2006 Quote It'd take a minute or so (probably less due to thinner air) to get down to 24,000MSL, approximately where I've jumped from without bailout oxygen. Another 30-40 seconds or so and you're into quite a bit thicker air. You might be a little loopy as you pass into the "normal" skydiving altitudes, but I'd say chances are good for a person to be quite functional in time to safely get a canopy out, especially if he/she is a healthy non-smoker. Don't think you'd have a minute to work with: Tlme of useful consciousness Altitude (ft) without oxygen 40,000 15 seconds 35.000 20 seconds 30,000 30 seconds 28,000 1 minute 26,000 2 minutes 24,000 3 minutes 22,000 6 minutes 20,000 10 minutes 15.000 Indefinite Doesn't make much sense because we can all hold our breath for longer than that, but I think it has to do with the lack of pressure and how blood transfers O2 around in your body. Maybe you'd wake back up before hitting the ground. I know someone who passed out on a 24k jump and woke up at 8k or so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #9 October 31, 2006 QuoteQuote It'd take a minute or so (probably less due to thinner air) to get down to 24,000MSL, approximately where I've jumped from without bailout oxygen. Another 30-40 seconds or so and you're into quite a bit thicker air. You might be a little loopy as you pass into the "normal" skydiving altitudes, but I'd say chances are good for a person to be quite functional in time to safely get a canopy out, especially if he/she is a healthy non-smoker. Don't think you'd have a minute to work with: Tlme of useful consciousness Altitude (ft) without oxygen 40,000 15 seconds 35.000 20 seconds 30,000 30 seconds 28,000 1 minute 26,000 2 minutes 24,000 3 minutes 22,000 6 minutes 20,000 10 minutes 15.000 Indefinite Doesn't make much sense because we can all hold our breath for longer than that, but I think it has to do with the lack of pressure and how blood transfers O2 around in your body. Maybe you'd wake back up before hitting the ground. I know someone who passed out on a 24k jump and woke up at 8k or so. Note though, it's time of USEFUL consciousness. You might be tumbling, but you're still awake, and you recover from conscious tomfuckery faster than you do hypoxic unconsciousness.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #10 October 31, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote Doesn't make much sense because we can all hold our breath for longer than that, but I think it has to do with the lack of pressure and how blood transfers O2 around in your body. Maybe you'd wake back up before hitting the ground. I know someone who passed out on a 24k jump and woke up at 8k or so. Note though, it's time of USEFUL consciousness. You might be tumbling, but you're still awake, and you recover from conscious tomfuckery faster than you do hypoxic unconsciousness. I think it has more to do with the partial presure ofO2 in the air, you need a minimum ammount in your body to be able to maintain conciousness. A residual volume of O2You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shermanator 4 #11 October 31, 2006 hmmm... last time i was in a commercial plane, they had actual oxygen tanks near the flight attendants jumpseat... just grab one of those, with the mask, turn it on, and hold on tight.. so what if you are unstable holding it, .. you just need it till get to a breathable altitude, then ditch the thing, track away from it, deployCLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Icon134 0 #12 October 31, 2006 QuoteNote though, it's time of USEFUL consciousness. You might be tumbling, but you're still awake, and you recover from conscious tomfuckery faster than you do hypoxic unconsciousness.from what I understand about the world highest Tandem skydive (w/o the TM having Oxygen) the pair jumped from 30,100 ft the Tandem Master didn't take oxygen on the plane (the passenger did) thus the TM lost consensiousness for for a bit before tossing the drouge... around 9,000 ft. I understand he doesn't suggest others trying it themselves... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 221 #13 October 31, 2006 Quotewhaa... considering there is no air to breath the first 3-4 minutes of freefall... you'd be death before arriving the deck anyway... But still... I take my canopy as hand lugage... just in case :) hehehe. What would you be doing in your next 3 to 4 minutes? Besides Bouncing . . . . if you get more than 3 - 4 minutes of freefall - you are alot higher than 32000 ft.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites klafollette 0 #14 October 31, 2006 Would there be any conceivable way to get your Cypres to work, just in case you're unconcious on the way down? If you turned it on before boarding, it wouldn't be accurate, being that the cabin would be pressurized around 8-10K, then suddenly depressurize. I think it would probably shut itself down at some point. If you turned it on after de-pressurization, maybe you could "quickly" set the alternate landing altitude? to be 30,000 lower than your take off altitude Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 2fat2fly 0 #15 October 31, 2006 Quote I'd probably put those in reverse order. But that's just me. Well, men always think of others first, we're just compassionate and emotionally supportive like thatI am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Buried 0 #16 October 31, 2006 Quoteif you get more than 3 - 4 minutes of freefall - you are alot higher than 32000 ft or you are in a wingsuit from 21/22k ft Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matt1215 0 #17 October 31, 2006 Thanks Mark, was wondering about that . Probably less time for me since I normally drink on planes that I don't intend to jump out of. I guess taking the oxygen tank and ditching it around 20k would be the way to go. Not sure how one would set their Cypres, but I like the idea of putting the rig under a hoodie. And the dude jumping a tandem w/o oxygen from 30k, WTFO? QuoteDon't think you'd have a minute to work with: Tlme of useful consciousness Altitude (ft) without oxygen 40,000 15 seconds 35.000 20 seconds 30,000 30 seconds 28,000 1 minute 26,000 2 minutes 24,000 3 minutes 22,000 6 minutes 20,000 10 minutes 15.000 Indefinite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigway 4 #18 October 31, 2006 That kittinger guy got 4 minutes and that was from over 100 thousand feet. Though he did open at 18 thousand feet. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BASE1036 0 #19 October 31, 2006 Quotehmmm... last time i was in a commercial plane, they had actual oxygen tanks near the flight attendants jumpseat... just grab one of those, with the mask, turn it on, and hold on tight.. so what if you are unstable holding it, .. you just need it till get to a breathable altitude, then ditch the thing, track away from it, deploy I can see it now the FBI will be hijacking this thread in 5....4....3....2....Daniel Protect Yourself and Your Loved Ones Tasers - Pepper Spray - Stun Guns and more! www.dallassecuritysupply.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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shermanator 4 #11 October 31, 2006 hmmm... last time i was in a commercial plane, they had actual oxygen tanks near the flight attendants jumpseat... just grab one of those, with the mask, turn it on, and hold on tight.. so what if you are unstable holding it, .. you just need it till get to a breathable altitude, then ditch the thing, track away from it, deployCLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #12 October 31, 2006 QuoteNote though, it's time of USEFUL consciousness. You might be tumbling, but you're still awake, and you recover from conscious tomfuckery faster than you do hypoxic unconsciousness.from what I understand about the world highest Tandem skydive (w/o the TM having Oxygen) the pair jumped from 30,100 ft the Tandem Master didn't take oxygen on the plane (the passenger did) thus the TM lost consensiousness for for a bit before tossing the drouge... around 9,000 ft. I understand he doesn't suggest others trying it themselves... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #13 October 31, 2006 Quotewhaa... considering there is no air to breath the first 3-4 minutes of freefall... you'd be death before arriving the deck anyway... But still... I take my canopy as hand lugage... just in case :) hehehe. What would you be doing in your next 3 to 4 minutes? Besides Bouncing . . . . if you get more than 3 - 4 minutes of freefall - you are alot higher than 32000 ft.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klafollette 0 #14 October 31, 2006 Would there be any conceivable way to get your Cypres to work, just in case you're unconcious on the way down? If you turned it on before boarding, it wouldn't be accurate, being that the cabin would be pressurized around 8-10K, then suddenly depressurize. I think it would probably shut itself down at some point. If you turned it on after de-pressurization, maybe you could "quickly" set the alternate landing altitude? to be 30,000 lower than your take off altitude Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2fat2fly 0 #15 October 31, 2006 Quote I'd probably put those in reverse order. But that's just me. Well, men always think of others first, we're just compassionate and emotionally supportive like thatI am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buried 0 #16 October 31, 2006 Quoteif you get more than 3 - 4 minutes of freefall - you are alot higher than 32000 ft or you are in a wingsuit from 21/22k ft Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt1215 0 #17 October 31, 2006 Thanks Mark, was wondering about that . Probably less time for me since I normally drink on planes that I don't intend to jump out of. I guess taking the oxygen tank and ditching it around 20k would be the way to go. Not sure how one would set their Cypres, but I like the idea of putting the rig under a hoodie. And the dude jumping a tandem w/o oxygen from 30k, WTFO? QuoteDon't think you'd have a minute to work with: Tlme of useful consciousness Altitude (ft) without oxygen 40,000 15 seconds 35.000 20 seconds 30,000 30 seconds 28,000 1 minute 26,000 2 minutes 24,000 3 minutes 22,000 6 minutes 20,000 10 minutes 15.000 Indefinite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #18 October 31, 2006 That kittinger guy got 4 minutes and that was from over 100 thousand feet. Though he did open at 18 thousand feet. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BASE1036 0 #19 October 31, 2006 Quotehmmm... last time i was in a commercial plane, they had actual oxygen tanks near the flight attendants jumpseat... just grab one of those, with the mask, turn it on, and hold on tight.. so what if you are unstable holding it, .. you just need it till get to a breathable altitude, then ditch the thing, track away from it, deploy I can see it now the FBI will be hijacking this thread in 5....4....3....2....Daniel Protect Yourself and Your Loved Ones Tasers - Pepper Spray - Stun Guns and more! www.dallassecuritysupply.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
