normiss 806 #26 October 12, 2006 ummm...anybody can quit...takes a real man to face lung cancer! blech! NASTY habit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squarecanopy 0 #27 October 12, 2006 Bobbi, I like the fact that you are honest about why you smoke-and I support the idea that it is your choice. My father died at age 72 of lung cancer after a lifetime of smoking and what tore me up was not that he died-it is just that I can say from watching him go from an on-the-go outdoorsman type in robust health (6 ft tall 190 pounds) to 112 pounds and unable to walk for 3 weeks before he died that LUNG CANCER IS A SHITTY WAY TO DIE. Please consider that aspect. BSSL, Bill Just burning a hole in the sky..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #28 October 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteI'll try to refrain from kissing you Hey... if the consequence of you kissing me, or you lighing one up in my house are the same, give it a go! I'm at 15 days without a cigarette. If the consequences of not smoking include you trying to make out with me, I'll head to the store for a new pack right fucking now! Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,009 #29 October 12, 2006 >From my experience everything can be a risk, freakin' hot dogs, >green M&M's!, who knows what the scientist will find next! Right. Your next skydive could kill you, too - but even so, most people jump with reserves and pull by 2000 feet. Why? Because, for us, that makes it safe enough. Even though we could all die tomorrow. Most people will survive skydiving and live to a ripe old age (at least, an age where they will die of something else first.) Most smokers will die from diseases related to smoking. Lung cancer is just one of the threats; not even the biggest one. > Like I said I have seen several friends die from cancer, one being lung >cancer and he didn't smoke what so ever. I have as well. The smoking related deaths - emphysema, lung (and then metastatic brain) cancer and heart disease have been some of the more painful and horrific deaths. Suffocating over the course of two years (and experiencing parts of your brain slowly dying of hypoxia) isn't the best way to go. > But I smoke and I like it! That's fine. But if you were a good friend of mine, I'd try to talk you out of it, for my own reasons. I prefer not to lose friends and family to horrific deaths sooner than I have to. Call me selfish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFKING 4 #30 October 12, 2006 QuoteMost smokers will die from diseases related to smoking. By "most", are you insinuating 51% or more ? And if so, where did you get that info ? The highest percentages i've ever seen of smoker deaths related directly (provable) to smoking were in the low 20s. And of course, trying to win an argument with you will kill me faster than smoking will......I know this, and I accept the risk. Don"When in doubt I whip it out, I got me a rock-and-roll band. It's a free-for-all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #31 October 13, 2006 I've been married to and dated smokers, and those days are OVER! No more compromise. It's just nasty to kiss an ashtray and the longer that I'm in the cardiology field (12 years) the more I realize that it's not IF, its just a matter of WHEN they experience serious cardiac events. Those patients who won't change their lifestyle, and keep coming back for another or multiple DES, well...we call them "repeat offenders". They know better... _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,009 #32 October 13, 2006 >By "most", are you insinuating 51% or more ? Well, between half and two-thirds. From the British Medical Journal: --------------------------- 50-year tobacco study shows smokers lose a decade of life TUESDAY 22 JUNE 2004 On average cigarette smokers die ten years younger than non-smokers, according to a 50-year-long study of smoking and death among British doctors, published in the British Medical Journal1. But stopping at age 50 halves the risk, and stopping at 30 avoids almost all of it. Sir Richard Doll, emeritus Professor of Medicine at the Clinical Trial Service Unit (CTSU), University of Oxford, launched the study in 1951 when he himself was in his 30s. Now in his 90s, he reveals the final results. Among the doctors born between 1900 and 1930, about half of the cigarette smokers were killed by their habit. However, there is a unique group, born around 1920, among whom two-thirds of those who continue to smoke cigarettes are killed. ------------------------------ >And of course, trying to win an argument with you will kill me faster than >smoking will......I know this, and I accept the risk. No argument here to win. I have no illusions that I will talk you out of smoking, and I hope you don't end up in that 50 to 66%. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laurarobbins 0 #33 October 26, 2006 Hi Everyone, I am trying to quit smoking and am kinda successful, I wanted to add some tips and advice for peeps trying to quit. 1. Dont hang out with smokers... This makes it HARD 2. Throw away all ashtrays and lighters.. Just Tempts you 3. Stick with forums and expressing your hard times, we re here for you in your time of need With these Tips Iwish ya all Luck in your endevor to quitting.. Oh yeah Check out www.quitsmokingez.com They are awesome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloody_trauma 2 #34 October 26, 2006 if skydiving gave you cancer would you stop? or not have started in the first place?Fly it like you stole it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #35 October 26, 2006 Quoteif skydiving gave you cancer would you stop? or not have started in the first place? Nah i would jus do "lighter" forms of skydiving to reduce the intake of fun and thus prolnog my life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
