RSG 0 #1 March 28, 2007 Hi all I am in need of a contact e-mail or a phone number of PROTEC guys, I need the main company not any of the dealers can anyone help ????_________________________________________ R S G = Ready Set Goooooooooo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #2 March 28, 2007 here ya go http://www.pro-tec.net/Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #3 March 28, 2007 That's a nice-looking helmet. But how are you going to attach and hear an audible altimeter, since there are no earpieces on it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RSG 0 #4 March 28, 2007 thank you for the link but I cant find any phone number or e-mail on this website ? _________________________________________ R S G = Ready Set Goooooooooo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #5 March 28, 2007 QuoteThat's a nice-looking helmet. But how are you going to attach and hear an audible altimeter, since there are no earpieces on it? And a camera too. How's he going to put a camera on that?"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siddacious 0 #6 March 28, 2007 depending on how much you care, you could try tracking them down on the SEC website.A dolor netus non dui aliquet, sagittis felis sodales, dolor sociis mauris, vel eu libero cras. Interdum at. Eget habitasse elementum est. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #7 March 28, 2007 QuoteQuoteThat's a nice-looking helmet. But how are you going to attach and hear an audible altimeter, since there are no earpieces on it? And a camera too. How's he going to put a camera on that? i had one like that, a couple of zip ties hold the audible in place quite nicely. for the camera, i don't know, but i'm guessing duct tape will work."Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jee 0 #8 March 28, 2007 my nephew is a pro skater (forrest kirby check out www.zooyork.com) sponsered by protec. he is getting a phone number. look for a post from me again soon. BTW can anybody tell me how to do the clicky thing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #9 March 28, 2007 Quotethank you for the link but I cant find any phone number or e-mail on this website ? Protec is owned by Vans now http://www.vans.com/vans/index2.asp - I didn't have time to search the site for a phone number (frickin' riggin' ya know?) but I'm sure there's one on there somewherePete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #10 March 28, 2007 QuoteBTW can anybody tell me how to do the clicky thing? See the information at the bottom of this page http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=markup_help; This information is readily available when entering a post - just look above the box where you normally type and there is a link looks like this: Get Markup Help "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #11 March 28, 2007 QuoteQuoteThat's a nice-looking helmet. But how are you going to attach and hear an audible altimeter, since there are no earpieces on it? And a camera too. How's he going to put a camera on that? Pro-Tec still makes the "Classic Full Cut Water", the usual style used for skydiving, with protection over the ears. The style of foam used on the inside has changed a few times over the last 15 years though. Lately they've added some sort of simple rubber strap at the back of the head. Not sure if it really helps to hold the helmet better in position or just gets in the way. The pic in the original post was of the Classic Skate -- i.e. their skateboarding helmet. It also traditionally uses the 'compressible' foam (that rebounds fully) like the Full Cut Water, rather than an EPS style 'hard foam' / 'one time use' foam found in snowboard or bike helmets. That's what I found when I recently bought one for multi sport use including CRW, that appears to have been built late in '06. Yet Pro-Tec's site seems to indicate that this year's production of the Classic Skate uses the EPS foam?! Their other Skate helmets I believe used EPS but are now moving to what they call SXP, which is similar in feel but is supposed to have some multi impact protection. For skydiving I prefer the compressible foam more for comfort and general feeling that it will cushion better than the very stiff EPS. That is not necessarily the best strategy. The compressible stuff is understood to be better only for minor accidents, but worse for major ones where it can bottom out. That's where the EPS and similar foams win out, and are found more in helmets that have higher certification levels. Oh, and the phone number on the new helmet is 562 565-8267, for Pro-Tec in Santa Fe Springs, California. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aguila 0 #12 March 28, 2007 Quote i had one like that, a couple of zip ties hold the audible in place quite nicely. for the camera, i don't know, but i'm guessing duct tape will work. I also have one with an AA and a camera attachedGonzalo It cannot be done really means I do not know how to do it ... yet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jee 0 #14 March 28, 2007 yes, as reported previously vans inc bought protec from mosa extreme sports in 2002. their phone number seems to be very elusive for some reason however this number may get you somewhere. 888.691.8889 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #15 March 28, 2007 QuoteQuoteThat's a nice-looking helmet. But how are you going to attach and hear an audible altimeter, since there are no earpieces on it? i had one like that, a couple of zip ties hold the audible in place quite nicely. And you could hear it over the wind noise? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #16 March 28, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteThat's a nice-looking helmet. But how are you going to attach and hear an audible altimeter, since there are no earpieces on it? And a camera too. How's he going to put a camera on that? Pro-Tec still makes the "Classic Full Cut Water", the usual style used for skydiving, with protection over the ears. The style of foam used on the inside has changed a few times over the last 15 years though. Lately they've added some sort of simple rubber strap at the back of the head. Not sure if it really helps to hold the helmet better in position or just gets in the way. The pic in the original post was of the Classic Skate -- i.e. their skateboarding helmet. It also traditionally uses the 'compressible' foam (that rebounds fully) like the Full Cut Water, rather than an EPS style 'hard foam' / 'one time use' foam found in snowboard or bike helmets. That's what I found when I recently bought one for multi sport use including CRW, that appears to have been built late in '06. Yet Pro-Tec's site seems to indicate that this year's production of the Classic Skate uses the EPS foam?! Their other Skate helmets I believe used EPS but are now moving to what they call SXP, which is similar in feel but is supposed to have some multi impact protection. For skydiving I prefer the compressible foam more for comfort and general feeling that it will cushion better than the very stiff EPS. That is not necessarily the best strategy. The compressible stuff is understood to be better only for minor accidents, but worse for major ones where it can bottom out. That's where the EPS and similar foams win out, and are found more in helmets that have higher certification levels. Oh, and the phone number on the new helmet is 562 565-8267, for Pro-Tec in Santa Fe Springs, California. Peter, this is some misleading information you're providing. But it's not something I even know about until one of my CRW teammates brought it up when we were selecting our helmets. You should know that the 'compressible foam" you described (Expanded Polypropylene - EPP) rebounds just as your brain is bumping into the side of your skull and causes an even greater injury than what you started with. Most helmet already have a hard outter shell that protects against the minor stuff. The interior should be expanded polystyrene (EPS) so that it crushes upon impact. The most recent development is Expanded Polyurethate (EPU) it does not have the rebound effect of EPP. The terms to think about are Single Use and Multi-hit. CRW-Dogs should use a Single Use helmet. Everyone else just buy whatever will hold your camera. Sources: http://www.helmets.org/history.htm http://www.bhsi.org/multi.htm"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tombuch 0 #17 March 28, 2007 QuoteQuotethank you for the link but I cant find any phone number or e-mail on this website ? Protec is owned by Vans now http://www.vans.com/vans/index2.asp - I didn't have time to search the site for a phone number (frickin' riggin' ya know?) but I'm sure there's one on there somewhere And Vans is now owned by VF Corporation. It seems like this is a brand that just doesn't want any direct consumer contact, and getting a phone number is tough. One of the ways I usually reach a 'tough to get hold of corporate entity' is to contact the Media Relations department or Investor Relations. Here is the basic contact information page of the web site for VF Corporation: http://www.vfc.com/sub_pages/contact_us.php. If you click the download button for brand managers you will find great contact information for most of the brands, but none for Vans. Go figure. If you take your search a step further and check Anywho for the street address listed for Vans (Vans Inc.,15700 Shoemaker Ave, Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670) you will come up with 562-565-8267. I don't know if that works, but it's probably worth a try.Tom Buchanan Instructor Emeritus Comm Pilot MSEL,G Author: JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #18 March 28, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteThat's a nice-looking helmet. But how are you going to attach and hear an audible altimeter, since there are no earpieces on it? i had one like that, a couple of zip ties hold the audible in place quite nicely. And you could hear it over the wind noise? yup, no problem. i just got a new full face with an internal audible mount. it'll probably scare the shit out of me the first time i jump with it."Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hayfield 0 #19 March 28, 2007 I use a combination of zip ties and hockey tape to attach a prodytter to my pro tec helmet (left side, front strap) which is the same one from the picture. I can hear my audible just fine. As long as you take the slack out of the strap it doesnt bounce against your head either. Oh yeah, best part is the helmet costs about $23 plus tax."Remember the First Commandment: Don't Fuck Up!" -Crusty Old Pete Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #20 March 29, 2007 Quote You should know that the 'compressible foam" you described (Expanded Polypropylene - EPP) rebounds just as your brain is bumping into the side of your skull Oh yeah, that's one thing I was afraid of. I gave the caveat that buying the 'compressible foam' helmet isn't necessary the best strategy, and it is helmets with better certifications that have EPS style foams. Compressible foam helmets are often lower profile than the EPS style ones, which is convenient for skydiving, despite the increased risks. One can also buy sets of low rebound 'memory foam' pads for ProTecs, which are known as the Pararescue liner. (Not built by ProTec.) That should help, if the foam densities were properly chosen. But at $85+ they are pricy for adding to a cheap helmet. So thanks for expanding on the foam info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #21 March 29, 2007 The helmet liner you are refering to is made by Oregon-aero and it works pretty damn good for a drop in liner. It isn't the sexiest liner but it really does protect your head. For more in depth information on Protec/bike helmets click HERE"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #22 March 29, 2007 Sorry, I know you said no dealers, but tell me what you need and perhaps I can help. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RSG 0 #23 March 29, 2007 thank you everyone, can anyone direct me to the Hat Shoope ? I need some quantity's of the leather helmet frap hat !_________________________________________ R S G = Ready Set Goooooooooo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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