everymansaved 0 #1 April 10, 2007 Hey all! So, after not too much time of dealing with the concrete and vaopur barrier dungeon that is my basement, I've decided to finish it so I can have a professional looking loft. (Can you call it a loft when it's in a basement?) I'm quite excited about it, and the thought of the finished product keeps me going through all the hard ass work! I'll post "in progress" pictures tomorrow, but I have a question for you in the mean time. What kind of carpet should I install? The space is going to be used almost exclusively for rigging, and I'm torn between a plush (like a regular living room) or low pile, office style. What are everyone's thoughts? Thanks!God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,407 #2 April 10, 2007 Select Style = "Work Space" http://www.carpetone.com/CarpetNobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
everymansaved 0 #3 April 10, 2007 It's kind of hard to tell what that is online, but I assume it's more of a low pile, office style, correct? Also, from a PM exchange, I guess it's prudent to mention that as far as rigging, it's prettymuch exclusively packing that's going to be going on, no machines, etc...God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teason 0 #4 April 10, 2007 Definitely low pile office style! Plush feels good on the feet until you find that needle you dropped a couple days ago!Sometime rigging involves itty bitty items like small screws, washers (like on an FXC mounting plate) and the ever painful needle! I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiggerLee 61 #5 April 10, 2007 Have you cut a hole in your "Roof" to give your self a "Drying Well"? Sorry I don't know what else to call it seeing as your "Loft" is in your basement? LeeLee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,407 #6 April 10, 2007 It is a very low profile office pile. As it states, great for high traffic areas, long-lsting and durable. I don't know if you noticed, but there is a "Visualize this Room" feature on the bottom right. When you select the style, you can then select the room and the Adobe Flash Player will put the styles and colors in a room so you get a _sense_ of what it will look like.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #7 April 10, 2007 Start with low-pile, indoor-outdoor carpeting in most of your loft, then add a layer or three of thick-pile carpet where you do most kneeling. Don't bother nailing down the thick-pile carpet as you will be replacing it every year or three. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plummeteer 0 #8 April 11, 2007 I recently put a carpet in my basement for the same purpose, mine is fairly low pile home carpet, one layer directly on the concrete, I haven't had any comfort problems yet, but some padding under it at least down the center of packing area, or another layer on top for more cushioning couldn't hurtQuote. I bought factory seconds to save some money, the only thing wrong with it is the application of the dye, it has some mismatched color on one side, looks like chicken tracks (from a very large chicken). I'd like to hear about what methods you use for your walls, that's my next step, once I clear some more junk out and save the money. I think I'm going to call it my rigging cellar (or maybe dungeon). Edo Concumbui Aethrae Cernuare Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites everymansaved 0 #9 April 11, 2007 Haha, I like the dungeon idea. I've finished the walls, and about to start on the ceiling. Well, finished is a loose term, the drywall is up, but not mudded, taped, or sanded yet. I'm going to drywall the ceiling as well, should be fun. Right... fun... I just did standard drywalling for the walls, nothing fancy. I'm going to paint one wall bright orange though! I'll post pictures of my progress so far in a day or two, whenever I can find my camera! I wish I'd thought to take pictures before I started!God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites plummeteer 0 #10 April 11, 2007 Yeah, please post pic's, I'd like to see it. My ceiling is the only part that I know for sure how I'm going to finish. My boss did it to his basement, that he made into a game room/bar. Just sprayed it flat black (with proper preparation), looks like many a bar I've been in, after decent lighting is installed it just makes it look blanked out, you hardly notice it at all, sounds much easier and cheaper than hanging a ceiling, plus it will allow me another 6" or so for my canopy hanger inbetween the joists. Edo Concumbui Aethrae Cernuare Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites everymansaved 0 #11 April 11, 2007 Hmmm, it's not a bad idea actually. I'll have to think about it. It'd be a lot less physical effort than drywalling, but a lot more mental work and patience.God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites everymansaved 0 #12 April 20, 2007 Just to give this a bit of a bump, does anyone have any ideas for alternatives for the ceiling? So far, I've got drywall, drop tile, and flat painting it black as plummeteer said. Anyone have any other ideas?God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites councilman24 37 #13 April 21, 2007 I put a drop ceiling in my 42' long basement. I also have 6 4'-4 tube flourescent lights over the 42'. One comes on with the stair light. Two are on one switch and the other 3, alternating, are on a separate switch. That way I can adjust the light level to the task. For rigging all six go on. But that a little bright for general use.BTW I use 5 8' plastic banquet tables (Sam's club) for packing rounds. The only round that doesn't fit on it is a FFE Preserve V. That one I have to hang over the end. Shhhhhh, don't tell anyone they're only 30" wide, not the required 36".Also, your stairway, if open to the first floor ceiling, makes a fine drying tower.I haven't bothered carpeting the basement yet even though that's was supposed to happen. But I have a bound remenent about 10 x 12 thats big enough to pack on. It's berber style carpet. This about the tightest surface and looped pile. I've even found protrack battery springs on it. Having the rest of the floor concrete makes it easier to clean up thread, oil, etc under the sewing machines. I screwed up one knee real bad over 15 years of packing. I now wear solid rubber knee pads whenever working on reserves. After 12 years of that my knee is better now. But a couple of years ago I put some of those hook together mat pieces sold for standing on, play, or excercise under the center of the carpet to help. This stuff isn't as cushy as carpet pad but easier on the knees. "Lofts" actually used to be specially licensed by the FAA. They discontinued that designation and license sometime in the 80's. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites everymansaved 0 #14 April 21, 2007 Wow! lots of info, thanks Terry. The packing table/drying tower doesn't really apply, as I'm a CSPA Rigger A with no round rating, but the rest is pure gold! The room is 12' by 28', and I was only going to put 2 fluorescent fixtures up, as well as 2 incandescent fixtures in areas where flourescent won't fit, I hope that'll be enough. My father in law told me about a system called ceiling link (http://www.ceilinglink.com) which is like drop tile, but not dropped. I think I'm going to put that up on half, and then regular drop tile on the half that needs to be dropped below some heating dutcs, etc...God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites councilman24 37 #15 April 21, 2007 There are narrower 2 bulb flouresents that can sometime fit between joists. If nothing else I'd put up some hooks to add additional lights temporarily. It might not sound like a big thing but I really notice it when I don't have them all on. It just gives you more light from more directions. I also have hooks that hold up a rail with 1" spring clips that slid to hang a canopy up for inspection. Even though it's not as tall as I'd like it still helps out when canopies go into trees. I do most of my inspection on the ground. Also I ment to say I'd stay away from painting the ceiling black. It just sucks up light. White will reflect more light around and be brighter. You really can't have this to bright.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites everymansaved 0 #16 April 22, 2007 Yeah, the black painting sounded neat, but not really functional for rigging. I have clips up as well, I forgot to talk about that. They work great.God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites everymansaved 0 #17 April 22, 2007 Okay, as promised, (maybe a little late), here are the pictures. I didn't think to take pictures before I started, but picture in your mind a regular, non finished basement, with insulation and vapour barrier on the walls. I also built some of the walls, kind of hard to describe which ones, but they're there! I think my next step is to get the ceiling done, as I'd like to get some difusers for the hot air vents, and some better lighting. I figure if I'm going to do all that, I might as well get the ceiling up too. Well, that and the fact that I want to make it look more liveable. Enjoy!God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #18 April 22, 2007 My $0.02: My flooring suggestion would be low pile, office-type with extra, extra padding underneath. The extra padding will make your knees very happy in the long run. The pile and the color will aid in finding those small items you drop. I believe short pile and light color will best serve. One other thing for long-haul benefit is no shoes on the carpet...especially if you choose a light color.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites everymansaved 0 #19 April 22, 2007 Yeah, absolutely, I'd prettymuch decided those already, with everyone on here's help. And it is in my basement, which means you have to walk through the rest of the house to get there, so no shoes!God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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everymansaved 0 #9 April 11, 2007 Haha, I like the dungeon idea. I've finished the walls, and about to start on the ceiling. Well, finished is a loose term, the drywall is up, but not mudded, taped, or sanded yet. I'm going to drywall the ceiling as well, should be fun. Right... fun... I just did standard drywalling for the walls, nothing fancy. I'm going to paint one wall bright orange though! I'll post pictures of my progress so far in a day or two, whenever I can find my camera! I wish I'd thought to take pictures before I started!God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plummeteer 0 #10 April 11, 2007 Yeah, please post pic's, I'd like to see it. My ceiling is the only part that I know for sure how I'm going to finish. My boss did it to his basement, that he made into a game room/bar. Just sprayed it flat black (with proper preparation), looks like many a bar I've been in, after decent lighting is installed it just makes it look blanked out, you hardly notice it at all, sounds much easier and cheaper than hanging a ceiling, plus it will allow me another 6" or so for my canopy hanger inbetween the joists. Edo Concumbui Aethrae Cernuare Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
everymansaved 0 #11 April 11, 2007 Hmmm, it's not a bad idea actually. I'll have to think about it. It'd be a lot less physical effort than drywalling, but a lot more mental work and patience.God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
everymansaved 0 #12 April 20, 2007 Just to give this a bit of a bump, does anyone have any ideas for alternatives for the ceiling? So far, I've got drywall, drop tile, and flat painting it black as plummeteer said. Anyone have any other ideas?God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #13 April 21, 2007 I put a drop ceiling in my 42' long basement. I also have 6 4'-4 tube flourescent lights over the 42'. One comes on with the stair light. Two are on one switch and the other 3, alternating, are on a separate switch. That way I can adjust the light level to the task. For rigging all six go on. But that a little bright for general use.BTW I use 5 8' plastic banquet tables (Sam's club) for packing rounds. The only round that doesn't fit on it is a FFE Preserve V. That one I have to hang over the end. Shhhhhh, don't tell anyone they're only 30" wide, not the required 36".Also, your stairway, if open to the first floor ceiling, makes a fine drying tower.I haven't bothered carpeting the basement yet even though that's was supposed to happen. But I have a bound remenent about 10 x 12 thats big enough to pack on. It's berber style carpet. This about the tightest surface and looped pile. I've even found protrack battery springs on it. Having the rest of the floor concrete makes it easier to clean up thread, oil, etc under the sewing machines. I screwed up one knee real bad over 15 years of packing. I now wear solid rubber knee pads whenever working on reserves. After 12 years of that my knee is better now. But a couple of years ago I put some of those hook together mat pieces sold for standing on, play, or excercise under the center of the carpet to help. This stuff isn't as cushy as carpet pad but easier on the knees. "Lofts" actually used to be specially licensed by the FAA. They discontinued that designation and license sometime in the 80's. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
everymansaved 0 #14 April 21, 2007 Wow! lots of info, thanks Terry. The packing table/drying tower doesn't really apply, as I'm a CSPA Rigger A with no round rating, but the rest is pure gold! The room is 12' by 28', and I was only going to put 2 fluorescent fixtures up, as well as 2 incandescent fixtures in areas where flourescent won't fit, I hope that'll be enough. My father in law told me about a system called ceiling link (http://www.ceilinglink.com) which is like drop tile, but not dropped. I think I'm going to put that up on half, and then regular drop tile on the half that needs to be dropped below some heating dutcs, etc...God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #15 April 21, 2007 There are narrower 2 bulb flouresents that can sometime fit between joists. If nothing else I'd put up some hooks to add additional lights temporarily. It might not sound like a big thing but I really notice it when I don't have them all on. It just gives you more light from more directions. I also have hooks that hold up a rail with 1" spring clips that slid to hang a canopy up for inspection. Even though it's not as tall as I'd like it still helps out when canopies go into trees. I do most of my inspection on the ground. Also I ment to say I'd stay away from painting the ceiling black. It just sucks up light. White will reflect more light around and be brighter. You really can't have this to bright.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
everymansaved 0 #16 April 22, 2007 Yeah, the black painting sounded neat, but not really functional for rigging. I have clips up as well, I forgot to talk about that. They work great.God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
everymansaved 0 #17 April 22, 2007 Okay, as promised, (maybe a little late), here are the pictures. I didn't think to take pictures before I started, but picture in your mind a regular, non finished basement, with insulation and vapour barrier on the walls. I also built some of the walls, kind of hard to describe which ones, but they're there! I think my next step is to get the ceiling done, as I'd like to get some difusers for the hot air vents, and some better lighting. I figure if I'm going to do all that, I might as well get the ceiling up too. Well, that and the fact that I want to make it look more liveable. Enjoy!God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #18 April 22, 2007 My $0.02: My flooring suggestion would be low pile, office-type with extra, extra padding underneath. The extra padding will make your knees very happy in the long run. The pile and the color will aid in finding those small items you drop. I believe short pile and light color will best serve. One other thing for long-haul benefit is no shoes on the carpet...especially if you choose a light color.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
everymansaved 0 #19 April 22, 2007 Yeah, absolutely, I'd prettymuch decided those already, with everyone on here's help. And it is in my basement, which means you have to walk through the rest of the house to get there, so no shoes!God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
