grue 1 #1 September 27, 2006 Time to find out how many people need an education on movies cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #2 September 27, 2006 I don't understand why they would put those two black bars on the screen. I mean, I've got a WHOLE SCREEN, why not use it? You can't see as much with the black bars there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #3 September 27, 2006 Quote don't understand why they would put those two black bars on the screen. I mean, I've got a WHOLE SCREEN, why not use it? You can't see as much with the black bars there. I completely agree. It pisses me off when I rent a dvd and it's wide screen with the big black bars. My TV already is a flat screen, so wtf? Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #4 September 27, 2006 QuoteI don't understand why they would put those two black bars on the screen. I mean, I've got a WHOLE SCREEN, why not use it? You can't see as much with the black bars there. Because if they do that, you're not seeing the whole movie. Think about it. If you proportionally increase the size of the video to match the 4:3 aspect ratio of a traditional television, the end result will be wider than the screen. Thusly, they CHOP OFF part of the movie. http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/release/video/f20020925/img/69817_bg.jpg See what I mean? This is why most movie enthusiasts (and creators) abhor the existence of full screen. My father works in the industry and claims he'll disown me if I ever knowingly buy a fullscreen DVD cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jheadley 0 #5 September 27, 2006 It depends on the movie. If it's something with a lot of wide angle shots and scenery, and special effects (Lord of the Rings, the Matrix, war movies, etc) I'd get wide screen. If it's just some stupid comedy, then I'd get full screen since it really doesn't matter if the edges of the picture are missing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #6 September 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteI don't understand why they would put those two black bars on the screen. I mean, I've got a WHOLE SCREEN, why not use it? You can't see as much with the black bars there. Because if they do that, you're not seeing the whole movie. Think about it. If you proportionally increase the size of the video to match the 4:3 aspect ratio of a traditional television, the end result will be wider than the screen. Thusly, they CHOP OFF part of the movie. http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/release/video/f20020925/img/69817_bg.jpg See what I mean? This is why most movie enthusiasts (and creators) abhor the existence of full screen. My father works in the industry and claims he'll disown me if I ever knowingly buy a fullscreen DVD I think he was kidding." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #7 September 27, 2006 QuoteQuote don't understand why they would put those two black bars on the screen. I mean, I've got a WHOLE SCREEN, why not use it? You can't see as much with the black bars there. I completely agree. It pisses me off when I rent a dvd and it's wide screen with the big black bars. My TV already is a flat screen, so wtf? Chris If you've already got a widescreen display, it is most likely optimized for a 16:9 aspect ratio. The reason for this is because made-for-TV widescreen content is typically 14:9 or 16:9 ratio. That's the "least common denominator", so to speak. However, many movies are filmed in a 2.35:1 or 1.85:1 ratio, which is even wider. Thusly, it will remain slightly letterboxed.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #8 September 27, 2006 Quote I think he was kidding. He might be, but not everyone who says that is. It'll explain to those who are serious.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jheadley 0 #9 September 27, 2006 What's strange is when widescreen movies aren't cut, but actually compressed to full screen. 2010 : The Year We Make Contact was like it. It took me a while to figure out why everyone looked so skinny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #10 September 27, 2006 Quote I think he was kidding. I was, but I was also giving him the opportunity he was obviously itching for. Your brain is like your testicles, if you don't spew something every now and then it gets backed up and can seriously affect your motor skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #11 September 27, 2006 You know about the BTTF box set fiasco from the first release of the box set, right? Your dad would appreciate the extreme level screw up on that one.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #12 September 27, 2006 I hated widescreen until I got me a 16:9 47" tv... Now the widescreen movies aren't so damn small! Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #13 September 27, 2006 Quotedon't understand why they would put those two black bars on the screen. I mean, I've got a WHOLE SCREEN, why not use it? You can't see as much with the black bars there. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I completely agree. It pisses me off when I rent a dvd and it's wide screen with the big black bars. My TV already is a flat screen, so wtf? Chris -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you've already got a widescreen display, it is most likely optimized for a 16:9 aspect ratio. The reason for this is because made-for-TV widescreen content is typically 14:9 or 16:9 ratio. That's the "least common denominator", so to speak. However, many movies are filmed in a 2.35:1 or 1.85:1 ratio, which is even wider. Thusly, it will remain slightly letterboxed. Thanks. Now would you mind translating that for stupid people? Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #14 September 27, 2006 QuoteYou know about the BTTF box set fiasco from the first release of the box set, right? Your dad would appreciate the extreme level screw up on that one. I haven't heard about that one, what is it?cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #15 September 27, 2006 I like the wide screen versions... I turn off the closed captions on the TV and turn on the english subtitles on the DVD and the subtitles will show along the bottom black bar, rather than over the video. Then again, that's just because (read my sig line) "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #16 September 27, 2006 Quote Thanks. Now would you mind translating that for stupid people? Ok, the aspect ratio refers to the shape of the picture. A 4:3 ratio means that for every 4 pixels (picture element) across, the display has 3 pixels down. A 4:3 ratio is what is used for most "standard" TV shows. A 16:9 TV, accordingly, has 16 pixels across for every 9 pixels down, and so forth. 16:9 is what most "widescreen" TV shows are shot in. If you actually divide the second number into the first, you get a direct measurement: A 4:3 picture is a 1.333, a 14:9 is 1.555, a 16:9 is 1.777, etc. The higher the number, the "wider" the picture is, compared to the height.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #17 September 27, 2006 I don't buy DVDs, i steal them from walmart. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #18 September 27, 2006 Instead of rewriting what others have written, here's a link with picture examples. http://www.angelfire.com/film/bttf2/--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #20 September 27, 2006 QuoteThanks. Now would you mind translating that for stupid people? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, the aspect ratio refers to the shape of the picture. A 4:3 ratio means that for every 4 pixels (picture element) across, the display has 3 pixels down. A 4:3 ratio is what is used for most "standard" TV shows. A 16:9 TV, accordingly, has 16 pixels across for every 9 pixels down, and so forth. 16:9 is what most "widescreen" TV shows are shot in. If you actually divide the second number into the first, you get a direct measurement: A 4:3 picture is a 1.333, a 14:9 is 1.555, a 16:9 is 1.777, etc. The higher the number, the "wider" the picture is, compared to the height. Thanks, I actually understood that.I have a 27" flat screen. If I rent a dvd, what should I look for if I want it to cover the whole screen? Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #21 September 27, 2006 QuoteI have a 27" flat screen. If I rent a dvd, what should I look for if I want it to cover the whole screen? On the back of the DVD package there should be something that says "27" version" otherwise it won't cover the entire screen. edit: this is a sarcastic joke post--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #22 September 27, 2006 QuoteInstead of rewriting what others have written, here's a link with picture examples. http://www.angelfire.com/film/bttf2/ That's a pretty monumental fuckup. I'm amazed if somebody didn't lose their job over that.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #23 September 27, 2006 QuoteI don't buy DVDs, i steal them from walmart. The beauty of stealing from Walmart is when you leave the store and the buzzer goes off, all the employees stop to check their tracking bracelets. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #24 September 27, 2006 Widescreen. There is no substitute. Even before Dagny and I purchased our 50" DLP widscreen TV I still bought widescreen format DVD's. I hate watching chopped up Pan-n-Scan 4:3 versions.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #25 September 27, 2006 Quote Because if they do that, you're not seeing the whole movie. Think about it. If you proportionally increase the size of the video to match the 4:3 aspect ratio of a traditional television, the end result will be wider than the screen. Thusly, they CHOP OFF part of the movie. http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/release/video/f20020925/img/69817_bg.jpg See what I mean? A bit ironic that you mention star wars. Two weeks ago that fucker Lucas released the original film version of Stars wars as a second disc on yet-another-release of the new version. What format did it come in? letterbox within a 4:3 box. Talk about wasted resolution. That'll fill 60% of my screen at best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites