PdF Serie Pro

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Hi,

I'm looking at a Serie Pro 120 by Parachute de France with 2? jumps for 150 Euro.

http://www.parachutecase.nl/theshop/artikel/mains/mains.html

Does anyone know anything about this canopy? Or maybe a more appropriate question; what's wrong with it?

I might want to use it for speedflying/groundlaunching.

Cya,

Tristan
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for french gear you'll have good answers on the french forums.

here or www.wuza.com

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Apparently the Serie Pro is just a modified version of the Blue Track and is now replaced by the Springo:

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Blue Tracks were made by Parachutes De France and are now modified a bit and called Pro Series (unless I am terribly mistaken).

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Its been replaced by Springo, more similar to Stiletto.

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It's probably not that good for GL so I won't get it. I will try my Sabre 135 first.
Thanks,
Tristan

Tristan
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You'd need 700 jumps to jump it here. It's not a good wingsuit canopy. They're also dirt cheap so there's probably a reason or more reasons

ciel bleu,
Saskia

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You'd need 700 jumps to jump it here. It's not a good wingsuit canopy. They're also dirt cheap so there's probably a reason or more reasons

he might not be able to groudlaunch it in your country either

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You'd need 700 jumps to jump it here. It's not a good wingsuit canopy. They're also dirt cheap so there's probably a reason or more reasons

he might not be able to groudlaunch it in your country either

Dunno, there's not much to groundlaunch FROM here. Maybe the skiing ramp where I used to work.

But yeah, should've read better and no clue if it makes a decent groundlaunch canopy, bsides it's price. I know sabres work fine though

ciel bleu,
Saskia

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remember if you plan to GL in Switz, you'll need a paraglider license...

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remember if you plan to GL in Switz, you'll need a paraglider license...

Are you serious?

Do I have to do a whole paragliding course with those huge parachutes that won't come down?

I would think skydiving experience would be more usefull (smaller faster canopies)

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Are you serious?

Do I have to do a whole paragliding course with those huge parachutes that won't come down?

I would think skydiving experience would be more usefull (smaller faster canopies)

Very serious...

If you can read german www.news.admin.ch/message/?lang=de&msg-id=10733

Yep full couRSE, unless you already have a valid licence from another country. infos here www.shv-fsvl.ch

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

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If you can read german www.news.admin.ch/message/?lang=de&msg-id=10733

these regulation are pretty strict.

You can't launch on ski slopes or roads?

"Auch müssen die Speedflyer-Fluggeräte den gesetzlichen Vorschriften für Hängegleiter entsprechen, insbesondere muss das Kennzeichen in 40 cm grossen Schriftzeichen angebracht sein" So you can't fly a skydiving canopy?

How strict are they? I think I will risk a fine.

Tristan
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I jumped a borrowed one of these into the closing cerimony of the 5th World Parachuting Championships in Kooralbyn, Australia in 1994.

Compared to all the AR-7's and Rubis's etc - it seemed pretty fast for it's day and the 1800 odd jumps I had at that time.

Wow. 1994. That was like... last century!

t

It's the year of the Pig.

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theoretically you can only launch from designated areas.

Then you need to have the immatriculation on your canopy, which is ridiculous... OK on 25sq meter paragliders but stoopid on 10 sq m canopies.

It's not about the fine, who cares about fines ?? It's about the insurance the day you screw up...

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

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Trust me Tristan, you do NOT want to get into trouble with German insurance. Ask Henny sometime...... He had a slight "problem" while BASEjumping.

But not surprised that they regulate this, they regulate BASE jumping pretty strict too..... You probably need a reserve for GL too?

ciel bleu,
Saskia

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that's SCHwitzerland not Germany

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LOL ok they speak German too.

But now I'm curious, do you need a reserve? Rigger's checkover? Any stuff like that? And with paragliding?

ciel bleu,
Saskia

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No kidding, insurance companies are criminal organizations without a conscience. They scare people with "what if" situations but when shit hits the fan they refer to the smallprint.

That's why I don't do insurance if it wasn't mandatory. I'll borrow money from the Maffia or Yakuza if something bad happens, that's much safer.

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No kidding, insurance companies are criminal organizations without a conscience. They scare people with "what if" situations but when shit hits the fan they refer to the smallprint.

That's why I don't do insurance if it wasn't mandatory. I'll borrow money from the Maffia or Yakuza if something bad happens, that's much safer.

Hmm I used to work for an insurance company (IT department, but still), we were not that bad I swear But when I needed another insurance company to pay me a lot of money they got away with it using an entire page of smallprint. That damn bank+insurance company cost me EUR 28.000 total!!!! And it was all (barely) legal too

ciel bleu,
Saskia

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Back to the original question :)

BlueTracks were introduced in 1989 in three sizes BT60 BT50 and BT40, I had a BT60 for many years and it was a 175sqft, the BT40 is a 150ish.

In late 92 early 93 PdF introduced the BT Serie Pro. The only difference between the two series was the square footage. The Series Pro were smaller versions the the regular BTs. Also the tandem version is the BT-80.

All are elliptical BTW. One of the posters said there must be a reson as to why they are cheap. Well of course, it is because by today standards they are an old design.

The BTs were the first fully elliptical canopy to hit the market and were the cutting edge of that time. A year or so later came the first stillletos.

It was a great canopy. I still jump mine from time to time

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LOL ok they speak German too.

But now I'm curious, do you need a reserve? Rigger's checkover? Any stuff like that? And with paragliding?

for BASE gear, no, we don't need anything.. Oh yeah, a BASE rig is more appropriate.

For paragliding, reserves are not mandatory. There are "official riggers" , but you can also take a course and pack your own.

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM