angrypeppers 1 #26 April 25, 2007 I'd like to see that video!Burn the land and boil the sea, You can't take the sky from me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koune 0 #27 April 25, 2007 Quote I'd like to see that video! The actual opening of the canopy is not on it, just his legs and the world. But it gives a good idea about how the opening was Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EAerodyne 0 #28 April 25, 2007 Dear Chris, Please could you provide me with the following information so I may better address your problem: Weight out the door field elevation of your drop zone where you jumped type of Pilot chute (ZP or F1-11) Line type on your canopy (Microline or Dacron) Many thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kai2k1 0 #29 April 26, 2007 I hope this isnt indicative of the Pilot's. I just ordered a new pilot 168 to go into my I5 with a PD 160. There's no truer sense of flying than sky diving," Scott Cowan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apollard24 0 #30 April 26, 2007 Quote I hope this isnt indicative of the Pilot's. I just ordered a new pilot 168 to go into my I5 with a PD 160. I've got a Pilot 124 and have never had a bad opening. I wouldn't worry too much on your new Pilot.Breathe out so I can breathe you in... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
angrypeppers 1 #31 April 26, 2007 I'm not worried either. I'm still new, and the rig is new to me, so I'm on a big learning curve. I think any rig can throw a bad opening your way any time. But, I wouldn't mind if it opened properly on my second jump with it! Burn the land and boil the sea, You can't take the sky from me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomLemming 0 #32 April 26, 2007 Quote I hope this isnt indicative of the Pilot's. I just ordered a new pilot 168 to go into my I5 with a PD 160. I don't think you have much to worry about ;) From my own experience, and from talking to other people, the pilot is one of the softest opening canopies around. When packed properly, mine opens gently, on heading and consistently. It even did that on my third pack job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #33 April 26, 2007 Quote I hope this isnt indicative of the Pilot's. I just ordered a new pilot 168 to go into my I5 with a PD 160. Smaller canopies usually does not suffer from the same problem that bigger sizes might have from the same model. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
angrypeppers 1 #34 April 26, 2007 I PM'd my info to Bushman, and here's his response: Hi Chris, Probably should post this on the forum too, but I'll let you decide if you do that or not..... but people will definitely learn from this feedback. 1) Exit weight at 220, means you should probably have dacron line. Most people don't order it due to increased pack volume related issues. Field elevation being 5000 feet, and you opening at 5000 feet AGL, increases opening shocks as you are now opening at 10000 feet MSL. (ask any military jumper that does haho how extreme the openings are at altitude) Thinner air, higher fall rate! Higher fall rate, higher opening shocks. Less forgiving of any packing related issues. The rest of the information re the pilot chute you'll have to get back to me on. Hope this gives you some explanations and answers to the possible problems you are experiencing. (again I encourage you to post this in the forum) Kind regards and best wishes Bushman ============================== I still need to check on the pilot chute, but that will have to wait till the weekend. I really need to learn how to pack, and then pack carefully! I've read enough reviews on the Pilot to know that this one particular opening is most likely not what I should expect most times, even at our altitude here in Colorado. Slammers happen, but I am convinced that this was due to a pack problem, or bad body position, or both. I appreciate the responses and advice from everyone, and it's extra nice that the Pres. of Aerodyne took some time to check this out for me. Thanks to everyone! ChrisBurn the land and boil the sea, You can't take the sky from me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
angrypeppers 1 #35 April 30, 2007 Jumped my rig again today, and what a difference! I wouldn't say it's buttery soft yet, but it was a much better opening than the twisty one last week. I had one of the packers pull out the main and repack it w/out rolling the nose. My body position was spot on, so I'm sure that helped too. Except for my (somewhat) controlled crash / landing, it was a great jump for me. Thanks for the help, everyone!Burn the land and boil the sea, You can't take the sky from me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #36 April 30, 2007 Quote Except for my (somewhat) controlled crash / landing, it was a great jump for me. Do you mean controlled flight into terrain? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
angrypeppers 1 #37 April 30, 2007 Ayuh. Not my best work. I even got grass stains on my shirt. Burn the land and boil the sea, You can't take the sky from me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pincheck 0 #38 April 30, 2007 why not pull a little high on your next Jump and practice your flares get one of the canopy guys at your dz to advise you or watch your landings. If there is no one available get a video guy or some one with a video to film your landing. make sure your flare is even. I did some good biffing before i got it right Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #39 April 30, 2007 What can you learn from a perfect landing? But you can learn much more from a bad one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
angrypeppers 1 #40 April 30, 2007 Good point. I learned that you don't stop flying the canopy till it's laying on the ground. Actually, I didn't learn that this jump, but my landing emphasized how true that is. I didn't flare fully, popped up a bit, and rather than correcting, I quit flying and braced for impact. Luckily, I didn't get hurt, but I'll remember that landing!Burn the land and boil the sea, You can't take the sky from me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #41 April 30, 2007 It has happened several times that I forget to do a full flare in high winds. That hurts. How many perfect landing can you remember, how about bad ones? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
