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wow nice to see ya adam.... havn't seen ya online since you left for germany.... where ya jumpng at now?? if ya get a chance.. go to the irish pub arcross from the court house in k town..... it's not a bad litle spot....

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Scott the point is he did not just give up trying...even if he did try hard several times to screw it up..he did NOT want to get caught. I only picked him because most people can recognize the name I should have picked any number of guys who did far more to help themselves in the South East Asian War Games, but there were more than one in that era who just friggin gave up without trying.



IMO Scott was just another Pentagon propaganda:o oops I mean public relations success story like Jessica.


I think the only ones who were successful in E&E in our class in Panama were the combat controlers,& para rescue guy's. A city slicker pilot/air crew person (new yorker city here) would have a problem with E&E in the jungle or woods with just one course. PT what the hell is that? I can't even spell it!:S

No disrespect Ms Amazon but IMO

Fairchild was the wrong place at the wrong time (late 60's) to teach E&E for SEA. THE POW camp OTOH was a good idea but wasn't available in Panama the right place to teach E&E at that time.

Of course both Fairchild and Panama schools were "success stories" at the same time.

Don't know what kind of training Ogrady got, 20-20 whatever it was, it wasn't enough.

R.I.P.

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Fairchild was the wrong place at the wrong time (late 60's) to teach E&E for SEA



Most of the guys went from the Basic School to the Jungle School at CLark where it was more in depth.

The Tropic School was there for other purposes. Hell I LOVED the Tropic School.. I HATED the Jungle school on a few levels. The Jungle School in the PI was far more oriented to what to do after you ass is blown outta the sky by a SAM. I still ate well at both though;)

None of the training those guys got was ever enough when it cam e tiome to use it. Again it goes to the motivation factor. a PJ or a CC might be spending a whole bunch of time on the ground.. where as a pilot would just be a tourist till they could get him out.

Guys like Scott HAVE to practice it and live it. Its not just a game in training to them its their lives.... which leads to EXCELLENT motivation.

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British Army Jan 1991 - Jan 1997
Royal Electrical & Mechanical Engineers (REME) - Aircraft Technician

2 Active tours :
9 Months Bosnia 1994
6 Months Northern Ireland 1996
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Active Army 19 Years this month.

Ft. Benning, GA
HHC 75th Jan 87 to mar 87 (busted ankle caused PCS)

Ft. Bragg, NC
HHC (Recon) and Aco 2/504 PIR 82nd ABN Apr 87 to Nov 91.

Ft. Richardson then Ft. Wainwright, AK
Bco 1/501 ABN Nov 91 to Dec 91 (re-organization of the 6th Infantry Division caused PCS)
Bco 5/9 IN Dec 91 to Mar 93 (?) Re-flagging caused unit change but no PCS
1/17 IN Mar 93 to Dec 94

Ft. Benning, GA
Aco 1/507 Jan 95 to Apr 97 (yes a Black Hat)
HHC 1/507 May 97 to Feb 99 (Master Trainer for Jump Branch)

Ft. Campbell, KY
101st Para Demo Team Feb 99 to Dec 99
Aco 1/327 Jan 2000 to Sept 2001
101st Paar Demo Team Sept 2001 to Feb 2003
Dco 1/327 (Iraq) Feb 2003 to May 2004
101st Para Demo Team May 2004 to July 2005
Branch Chief Of Instruction, U.S. Army Pathfinder School Ft. Campbell KY (and 101st Para Demo Team Chief) July 2005 till present (as of now till retirement in 12 to 18 months)

Oodles of deployemnst and oodles of fun as well as tons of tough work.

But it has allowed me to meet a ton of good people, lots of which I see posting here.

MOS: 11B4PF7/5W/2B/B2/C2/H
English translation; Infantry E-7 who is Airborne, Pathfinder, Jujmpmaster, Sniper, Air Assault, Anti Armor and Instructor Qualified
An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

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U. S. ARMY
1983-1987
E1-E4, WO1-WO2
Air Traffic Control
Air Assault
Jungle School
Pathfinder School
Instructor with 509th Pathfinders.
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"Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."

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7 years.

Enlisted 1967 for Infantry Airborne. Branch transferred to MI after Infantry OCS at Ft Benning, GA.

Phoenix officer for MACV Team 46, Dien Khanh Vietnam 1968-1969.

XO of 502nd MI Detachment, 2nd Armored Division, Ft Hood, TX.

444th Research & Development Detachment, Camp Mabry, Austin, TX

Blue skies,

Jim

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Just transferred from the Guard to the Air Force Reserve. Spent 14.5 years on Active duty in the Air Force. Left in 1989, joined the guard then.

Spent my first six years as an Air Traffic Control Radar Specialist. Learned to fly in the aero club and thought it might be fun to fly Air Force jets. Went to the education office and asked about getting a degree so I could qualify for OTS.

Three years later I was in OTS with a slot for Pilot Training. Got my first choice assignment, a Warthog to RAF Bentwaters. Since then it's been nothing but aweseome. Great friends, great experiences, and hopefully with my new job all that will continue. I've flown the A-10, OV-10, A-37, F-16, and the C-130. Got rides in the F-15 and a CF-18. Have flown a number of cool simulators over the years, A-7, F-4, C-141, CV-22 and the V-22, UH-1, and probably some that I've forgotten about.

Next week is my 30th year in the military, at my current rank I can serve six more years. When that terrible day comes that t I have to leave, I will go kicking and screaming. Meanwhile, I'm loving it.

God Bless all the soldiers, marines, sailors, and airmen who are defending FREEDOMS FRONTIER around the world.

Cheers,

Mo

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US Army Special Forces ODA 552 Co B 2nd BN 5th Special Forces Group

Sargeant (SF medic) SCUBA qualified

Fort Bragg


Best memory: After graduating SCUBA school in Key West, FL I put guys through pre-SCUBA and one of the guys I was training was always a pain in the butt to me going through Q course. heehee!B| payback! flutterkick hell!

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