daremrc 0 #1 June 4, 2007 I bought some used gear from another jumper at my DZ. It's my first rig as a new jumper (and I owe beer...) The container is in very good condition for its age, and it fits my body well. Fit was a problem for me, and the reason I scooped it up when I found it. Anyhow, we opened the main up in the rigger loft yesterday and the thing smells a bit musty. The lines feel slightly damp to the touch as I run my fingers along them when I pack it. I didn't see any mildew or mold spots on the chute itself, but the smell is pretty strong even when the container is closed. If you've ever accidentally left your clothes in the washer for a day or two, you know the smell I'm talking about. Anyhow I obvously need to give the thing a good airing, but the smell is strong enough that I'm thinking it might take a bit more to 'cure' it. What, if anything, is appropriate to clean & de-stink-ify it with? Is there anything else I should be concerned about or examine seeing as the rig has likely been stored for a while in its damp condition? I dont think it's been jumped in 3-4 years. The main is 12 years old, besides the smell the fabric and lines appear to be satisfactory to me & my rigger, and I only plan on it getting me thru this season. This thing is not going to make me very popular on the ride to altitude unless I do something... I searched for stinky, smelly, and smell on here before I posted and came up with nothing gear-related Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #2 June 4, 2007 I'd take it back to your local rigger immedieatly and talk to them about better inspecting the reserve (to make sure there's no "mold / mildew" damage) and also have the rig disassembled to have the container washed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeenan 14 #3 June 4, 2007 Air out the canopies in an air-conditioned (low humidity) environment and wash the container._____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daremrc 0 #4 June 4, 2007 QuoteI'd take it back to your local rigger immedieatly and talk to them about better inspecting the reserve (to make sure there's no "mold / mildew" damage) and also have the rig disassembled to have the container washed. the reserve was just repacked and was dry. just looks like someone put a damp canopy back in the main tray...Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daremrc 0 #5 June 4, 2007 Could I potentially wash the container myself? is there any do's/don't as far as what to use? thanksGood judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #6 June 4, 2007 I'd urge you to take this to a rigger for washing, close examination, etc. Washing a rig isn't a huge deal, finally did mine recently thanks to several folks here providing a guiding hand. But it's not something I'd recommend doing on your own when there could also be something wrong with the canopy fabric, lines, or other. If you've already had a rigger check the entire rig for airworthiness, then by all means, wash it. Do you know how to reattach your reserve, main, uninstall/reinstall AAD? I'd assume not, and AFAIK, it's best done by a rigger. If you wash, you're in for a repack anyway, so why not add 35.00 to the cost of the repack; that's cheap peace of mine, IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daremrc 0 #7 June 4, 2007 Quote I'd urge you to take this to a rigger for washing, close examination, etc. Washing a rig isn't a huge deal, finally did mine recently thanks to several folks here providing a guiding hand. But it's not something I'd recommend doing on your own when there could also be something wrong with the canopy fabric, lines, or other. If you've already had a rigger check the entire rig for airworthiness, then by all means, wash it. Do you know how to reattach your reserve, main, uninstall/reinstall AAD? I'd assume not, and AFAIK, it's best done by a rigger. If you wash, you're in for a repack anyway, so why not add 35.00 to the cost of the repack; that's cheap peace of mine, IMO. Yeah, you're right I dont know how to do any of that except the main. Problem being, the airing, inspection, and repack was just done yesterday . I had two riggers on hand, one hanging up the main while the other packed the reserve. each one told me that the piece of gear they were looking at gear was older, but airworthy... In fact the reserve has never been deployed. I didn't realize how bad the smell was until I got it home and opened the gear bag back up, tried it on, and was told by my g/f that she could smell the main inside the container. I guess I was thinking about hand-washing the main tray part of the container where I'm assuming the smell is mainly coming from, but you're actually talking about taking everything out of it and washing the complete rig which would definately mean a repack. In light of it just being inspected and repacked, would you still have it done again just due to the smell?Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #8 June 4, 2007 I'm not the one that has to live with the smell....so can't make a suggestion. I'll say this, however; DO NOT attempt to wash the rig with the reserve packed in it, tray or not. Is it the container that is stinky? Or the main? Both? Are you sure a cat didn't climb into the main tray and do his bizness? (rig at the DZ had that happen, it smelled like hell) Depends on your budget and point of view. If the smell is as bad as you say, then 40.00 for a repack and 35-40.00 for a washing sounds like a good deal to me, but it's not my money I'm suggesting you spend. Or, save the 75.00-80.00 and hope for a reserve ride real soon. Or, wait 4 months and live with the smell til your next repack. Lotsa options... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daremrc 0 #9 June 4, 2007 thanks for the input it doesn't smell like cat business, just musty. So far as I can tell, it's mainly the main, the main bag, and a bit of the main container. well see what it smells like after the main has been hung in an airconditioned space...Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyblu3 0 #10 June 5, 2007 ask the original owner about it?? see if he packed a wet canopy into the contianer! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scubadivemaster 3 #11 June 5, 2007 What kind of rig is it? Dacron lines? A lot of the old student rigs I have been around have a vague locker-room dirty sock smell to them. I think it's the years of fear-tainted sweat that has soaked into them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #12 June 5, 2007 I just bought a dog. When he gets wet he smells like an old rig. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #13 June 7, 2007 Send it to the original manafacturer and have it cleaned and washed, approx: $40.00 USD. Have your main & reserve inspected as well. It would seem to me the rig had been used for swooping the pond and whomever was piloting it "chowed" more than once.-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #14 June 7, 2007 If your rigger inspected it - both the main and reserve - and you are comfortable with the safety - I would say... Go jump. 120 MPH winds have a tendency to air out canopies.I would resist the urge to wash the main to get the smell out - but canopies do get wet/washed in ponds, chops, and spills all the time... You could wash your main... Disconnect it from the rig at the three-rings, and call the manufacture/favorite rigger for advice on the soap to use, the length of soak, how to hang to dry. LIKELY - your DBag has kept the container rather "clean" even if there is mold... Take out the main overnight - put it in a different room, and see what smells and what doesn't...??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #15 June 15, 2007 jump it a couple times, see if that don't air it out. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #16 June 15, 2007 Worse problem....when my dog gets wet, he smells like a used rig! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #17 June 16, 2007 If, your rigger didn't see any outward signs of mildew or mold, find a place where you can suspend the canopy and set-up a fan to blow on the parachute and container. As suggested, jump it a couple times! From your profile, you live in a humid area and mold and mildew can be a problem. Next re-pack, have your rigger give your container a good bath. In the mean-time, as long as your rigger(s) said it was airworthy... jump it. That will help a bunch. Ivory flakes, Cheer (NO bleach) or Woolite works great for washing your container. I really wouldn't recommend washing your parachute. Spot clean only. Hope, that helps. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davemon 0 #18 June 27, 2007 soak a rag in fabreze and place in the gear bag on top of a paper towel so the rag won't contact the rig re soak the rag as needed.Got the cat piss smell out of an old rig for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daremrc 0 #19 July 3, 2007 so 30 jumps later the smell is faint, but tolerable. after i open the gearbag I can smell it a bit, but once out in the open you can't distinguish it from other foul smells in the jump plane thanks all for the advice & PM's Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites