Landing approach estimator

[sjc 0]

Google satellite map is overlay with lines to show the downwind, base and final legs of the landing approach.

You can change wind strength and direction, speed of the canopy, glide ratio of the canopy and see how it changes the landing pattern.

[url http://staticlineinteractive.com/ApproachEstimator.php]http://staticlineinteractive.com/ApproachEstimator.php[url]

Regards, Alexander. http://staticlineinteractive.com

[shropshire 0]

Looks like a good starter for 10 for me

What format does it expect the co-ords of my DZ to be? - I've sussed it

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[GaryRay 0]

ooh perfect, now students never have to think. they are gonna be to worried about what the computer said about starting there pattern and not on all the other factors. in my not so humble opinion.

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[gimpboogie 0]

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ooh perfect, now students never have to think. they are gonna be to worried about what the computer said about starting there pattern and not on all the other factors. in my not so humble opinion.

agreed!
we got enough problems with even experienced jumpers not spotting anymore-just waiting for the green light!

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[Andy9o8 2]

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ooh perfect, now students never have to think. they are gonna be to worried about what the computer said about starting there pattern and not on all the other factors. in my not so humble opinion.

Oh, come on - it's simply a little training tool. Sort of a "simulator" (sort of). Doesn't worry me in the least. You haven't been jumping long enough to be an old fart jumper.

[JohnRich 4]

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I've sussed it

What's that mean?

[sjc 0]

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ooh perfect, now students never have to think. they are gonna be to worried about what the computer said about starting there pattern and not on all the other factors. in my not so humble opinion.

Let's take away flight simulators from airpline pilots as well, just in case.

Thanks Andy9o8, you said it!

"sussed it" means "figured it out", I also did not know that one. The day was not spent in vain, I've learned something new, thanks shropshire.

Regards, Alexander. http://staticlineinteractive.com

[shropshire 0]

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I've sussed it

What's that mean?

Sorry, worked out how to do it.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[shropshire 0]

Hi,

I [clearly] don't see it the same way that you do ... I see it as a training aid and could be used at the DZ to instruct people on the correct landing pattern for the day .... just saying Left or Right hand pattern is O.K for experienced folk, but maybe getting students to look out for land marks too, could be benificial.... just a thought.

I also like to encourage people to have new and intgeresting thoughts, not shoot them down at the earliest opportunity.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Hausse 0]

I think it's gonna be awesome!

Will make it a lot easier to illustrate the effects of winds to students!

Here is the Link to the Ranch. Would be awesome if you could add it!

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41.675011,-74.149808&spn=0.00496,0.011373&t=h&z=17

Thanks!

[shropshire 0]

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Thanks!

Wasn't me mate.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Hausse 0]

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Thanks!

Wasn't me mate.

Well, thanks to you anyways and Thanks to the guy/girl who actually did it!

[Pulse 0]

My, my. How did we ever go without this in the past?

Oh yeah, we actually skydived and paid attention to what was going on.

Sorry, I think I would have laughed if an instructor pulled this out when I was a student.

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[flipper 0]

+1

[phoenixlpr 0]

+1

I tried to use GPS to help finding the right points for my swoop in a new place for me. The result was awful. You don't need any gadget to land a canopy.

You have to learn how far you can be for your target on a no wind day than adjust you pattern to the actual winds.

[piisfish 140]

how do you know glide ratio and canopy speed ?

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[shropshire 0]

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My, my. How did we ever go without this in the past?

Oh yeah, we actually skydived and paid attention to what was going on.

Sorry, I think I would have laughed if an instructor pulled this out when I was a student.

So, your instructors never used a blackboard or a map of the DZ as a training aid?

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[sjc 0]

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I tried to use GPS to help finding the right points for my swoop in a new place for me. The result was awful. You don't need any gadget to land a canopy.

People often confuse the distinction between different types of aids. You can roughly separate all aids into two categories: 1) used before the jump; 2) used during the jump. They should not be compared to each other, unless you are good comparing oranges with apples.

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You have to learn how far you can be for your target on a no wind day than adjust you pattern to the actual winds.

Now you are saying it. You do have to learn... and there is a finite number of ways to learn. Some ways are more efficient than the others. Literature on learning methods have these things covered for us :)

Regards, Alexander. http://staticlineinteractive.com

[sjc 0]

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how do you know glide ratio and canopy speed ?

That is the perfect question. Short answer: no one will tell you. It is not given in the canopy specifications.

You can find it (approximately) by jumping with a gps and analyzing the recorded track.

It's commonly said that student canopies have glide ratio of 3 (in no wind conditions). The speed somewhere under 20mph. But these numbers depend on the wing loading, air density, canopy material, etc. In either case it does not matter, because you can not get the exact values for the constantly changing conditions.

You can use trackingdurby.com to look at the gps tracks of people who jump with a similar canopy to get approximate results. Notice, thought, that recordings are done in a windy situation. And the direction and strength of the wind is not known.

This is why it is important to understand how to modify your pattern based on the conditions. This is what the estimator can help you with. There is also Landing Pattern simulator that helps to actually see how to fly the pattern.

Regards, Alexander. http://staticlineinteractive.com

[Skwrl 56]

Neat. But if you click the "right hand pattern" for SNE, you're crossing the runway at a pretty low altitude...

(Minor nit, but worth mentioning...)

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[sjc 0]

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Neat. But if you click the "right hand pattern" for SNE, you're crossing the runway at a pretty low altitude...

(Minor nit, but worth mentioning...)

Hence this pattern should not be exercised. But if you are to land in the experience landing area, you'd have to use a different pattern. We live it up to students to see what each pattern is and they should discuss it with their instructors to figure out which one is good for them :)

I believe in general it is not recommended to cross the runway under 1000ft, which means the whole pattern must be done on one side or the other.

Regards, Alexander. http://staticlineinteractive.com

[jdfreefly 1]

I think this can be a great training tool.

I really don't understand the negative comments that have been given, other than attributing it to internet + human = asshole

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