Brian425 0 #1 August 8, 2006 The other thread is too far gone to hope to bring it back on topic. I'm married to a non skydiver. She has no desire to jump. Those feelings have absolutely nothing to do with my relationship with her. My wife and I are polar opposites. We have different cultures, like different food, have different political views and are in general different in almost every way. That is what makes it the most fun. We learn from each other because we are so different. She has taught me new perspectives. Together we are great team. The key is that you have to support and love each other. She knows that skydiving is important to me. So we compromise. Yup, I can only go to the DZ one day on the weekend. And you know what, for me that is a good thing. One day is for what I want to do, the other is for what she wants to do. If they conflict, we compromise. Skydiving is great and I have met a wonderfully diverse group of people through it. The one thing I hate is skydivers who have a disdain for Whuffos. Let's get something straight, jumping out of a plane does not make you the bravest, coolest, sexiest kid on the block. If you are going to limit your friends and significant others to skydivers, you are missing out. B The only time you should look down on someone is when you are offering them your hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #2 August 8, 2006 You are very correct... I couldn't agree more... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #3 August 8, 2006 No offense to the wonderful skydiving ladies, but I'd rather be with my whuffo wife than the greatest skydiver sister. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #4 August 8, 2006 QuoteIf you are going to limit your friends and significant others to skydivers, you are missing out. I've made a concerted effort in the two years that I've been skydiving to maintain my friendships outside of skydiving, and I've been able to do it. It means sometimes I'm not at the DZ all weekend every weekend, but that's okay, there's a lot of other fun things that I like to do. Skydiving is a big part of my life but it is not the only thing, and staying close to the non-skydivers in my life helps me to remember that. They also provide a wonderful balance to the sometimes stifling feeling that I can get in the skydiving world. It's much easier to get caught up in the petty drama of the dropzone world if you don't have anything outside of it to go to. I'll find myself getting annoyed by b.s. or politics at the DZ, or I'll have a frustrating day jumping, and I'll go over to my friend's house for game night or go out roller blading with another friend and what do you know? It puts all the skydiving stuff in perspective. Glad to hear that you and your wife have figured out a balance that works for both of you."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #5 August 8, 2006 Quote No offense to the wonderful skydiving ladies, but I'd rather be with my whuffo wife than the greatest skydiver sister that and this thread is the most romantic thing Ive ever read on here. Im so proud of you guys.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #6 August 8, 2006 WOW--two men (wait--now I'm confused, but anyway, it's lots of men) in the same forum who seem to have good perspective on the matter! I'm very impressed! I'm working on the jumping, so I have to speak from a whuffo-to-whuffo perspective for now, except that I WANT to jump and the guy I'm seeing swore to himself that he would do a lot of things in life, but that he would never paraglide, bungee jump or sky dive. However, I have to give him kudos. His attitude is that it's healthy for two people in a relationship to have their own interests (in addition to the ones they share), and he's encouraging me to get to the DZ and do my tandem. He thinks having separate interests gives each person something more to bring back to the table and that's nice. Besides, I'm a little protective and sort of LIKE it that this is "my" interest and not "ours." We have plenty of other things to enjoy doing together and this doesn't have to be one of them.TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #7 August 8, 2006 QuoteThe key is that you have to support and love each other. She knows that skydiving is important to me. So we compromise. Yup, I can only go to the DZ one day on the weekend. And you know what, for me that is a good thing. One day is for what I want to do, the other is for what she wants to do. If they conflict, we compromise. I'm soon am going to be married to the greatest woman that walks this planet. My skydiving has been the focal point on the many discussions we've had regarding our future together. She doesn't skydive either, but she is very supportive and is willing to compromise. I also will be giving up most weekends. the only reason I met her was the fact that I took some time off the sport and rediscovered the non-skydiver side of the world. I was that close to not being the happiest man on earth. I believe you should keep one foot firmly in each world; skydiving and non-skydiving. It gives you a better balance and will prevent burn-out and prolong your time in the sport. In truth, there is no difference between a skydiver and a non-skydiver. Everyone goes through this euphoria of feelings reminiscent of a Tom Robbins's self-help "I'm-my-own-person-and-can do-anything," for about a year and a half to two years, and then your old personality seeps back in and you are back to square-one except with the added nylon over the head. So, with that in mind, why would one only date skydivers?_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #8 August 8, 2006 But I like skydivers better than whuffos. What should I do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #9 August 8, 2006 QuoteBut I like skydivers better than whuffos. What should I do? You could date a skydiver. Might want to keep it from the wife, though. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #10 August 8, 2006 QuoteEveryone goes through this euphoria of feelings ... for about a year and a half to two years, and then your old personality seeps back in and you are back to square-one except with the added nylon over the head. So, what you're saying is that 1.5 - 2 years of skydiving have no effect on who you are once that initial infatuation wears off? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #11 August 8, 2006 Quotejumping out of a plane does not make you the bravest, coolest, sexiest kid on the block. ------------------------------------------------------------ great.....now I'll never get laidPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #12 August 8, 2006 QuoteBut I like skydivers better than whuffos. What should I do? ..Ask Sunshine? I have the same amount of friends as both before and after skydiving...none. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nanook 1 #13 August 8, 2006 Yes. Based on research, (i'll have to find it again) and mine as well as a few others personal experience, you may go through a life-altering period of accomplishment and achievement that helps you accomplish more personal goals/feats until that super-personality wears off. The average tims is actually about 18 months (but it took me 2 years). You then slip back to your normal self. But, some may remember that they accomplished a lot and realize it was them all along and such future personal pushes are easier, and there's some who wait for the next "wave" to help them with their next super-selves. So yes, sooner or later, you have to face yourself after your "vacation" and make hard self-assesments: are you really a changed person? Or . . . for those that haven't seen the research or never cared about anything but to just have fun. . ."Hunny, I need to upgrade to the newer container, do you want a footrub for a year?"_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sunshine 2 #14 August 8, 2006 I've noticed it's usually "newbies" that say they can't date a whuffo. Whatever. I've dated jumpers and whuffos since i started jumping. I have the same bad luck with both. If only Popsjumper would give me a chance.... ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #15 August 8, 2006 Quote....If only Popsjumper would give me a chance.... Love to sweet thing but that's an encounter I probably would not survive. Me not being a jerk/asshole, I have a feeling you would eat me alive. <<>> My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sartre 0 #16 August 8, 2006 QuoteYou then slip back to your normal self. My husband will be relieved to hear this. If he hangs in there for that long! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tonto 1 #17 August 8, 2006 QuoteIf you are going to limit your friends and significant others to skydivers, you are missing out. B You spent a whole post telling us how diversity is good and how polar opposites can work, and then told us that a lot of us are missing out. I've been married to a whuffo, and we also compromised for a while. Ten years ago we divorced. In 20 years time, you will know whether your relationship or your sport or both have survived as long as I've been jumping. Crowing about it now smacks of arrogance. For me "right non-skydiver" is a contridiction. I have all I need in my SO. I have no need to search through catalogs of whuffos. To each their own. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #18 August 8, 2006 Quote...catalogs of whuffos. They have catalogs? Where can I get one? Can you send me the section for female Blue-eyed Blondes? My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Reginald 0 #19 August 8, 2006 Quote Let's get something straight, jumping out of a plane does not make you the bravest, coolest, sexiest kid on the block. Oh shit NOW someone tells me! "We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Brian425 0 #20 August 8, 2006 Tonto, I perfectly comfortable with people disagreeing with me. I very lucky to have met a very diverse group of people skydiving. It's contributed to making me a better person. I will stand by what I said. I do not like that some jumpers look down on Whuffos. It smacks of elitism. Jumping out of airplanes is either a job or a hobby. Just like bowling or racing cars or golf. The fact is if you limit the group you socialize with to only people who share your passion, you are missing out. Eva's already been with me through the bad times. The only reason our relationship would fail is if one of us stopped working at it. Anything that is valuable takes work. Being a good husband/wife, a good skydiver, a good employee, etc. I hope that one day, we can sit in a rocking chair and talk about our youth together. That's my goal. I'll never be the greatest skydiver. I may never be the best husband. I can tell you one thing, I will work at the family life way before skydiving. So maybe I am not hardcore. It works for me. Peace and blue skies. B The only time you should look down on someone is when you are offering them your hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Buried 0 #21 August 8, 2006 QuoteQuote...catalogs of whuffos. They have catalogs? Where can I get one? Can you send me the section for female Blue-eyed Blondes? refer to this thread http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2346135#2346135 Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PRSKY71 0 #22 August 8, 2006 I've thought about this subject a lot since meeting my current SO. I'm saddened by the quickness with which we, as human beings, are so willing to exclude others from our lives. The fact of the matter is that one never really knows where one's true love will come from. I have NEVER been athletic, and specifically never into extreme sports, and although for a short period of time I did consider skydiving, I would have never in a million years imagined that I would fall in love and be with a skydiver!! Although I have three jumps under my belt, I very much consider myself a WHUFFO b/c I have such respect for the sport and those in it that I would not lump myself in with them or call myself a skydiver. As a WHUFFO it is easy to understand the potential (and sometimes very real) conflict between both worlds. I worry about my SO jumping and yet I feel very bad that he is not able to jump as often as he would like. But more than anything, I NEVER want to be the cause of his not jumping!! And, I know I would NEVER ask him to choose. I think finding true honest love is difficult enough and that excluding a certain group of people b/c they are skydivers or whuffos or anything else is just a great loss. But, being the whuffo in a relationship is certainly not an easy task either. Reaching true compromise is key! However, I have no idea how!! Character cannot be made except by a steady, long continued process. -- Phillips Brooks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #23 August 8, 2006 QuoteThe key is that you have to support and love each other. She knows that skydiving is important to me. So we compromise. Yup, I can only go to the DZ one day on the weekend. And you know what, for me that is a good thing. One day is for what I want to do, the other is for what she wants to do. If they conflict, we compromise. Have been doing the same thing for more then a year my self. Wouldn't change it for anythingI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vskydiver 0 #24 August 8, 2006 OOPS! Too late! I saw that! It aint gonna happen. I don't share very well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MarkM 0 #25 August 9, 2006 Quote So we compromise. Yup, I can only go to the DZ one day on the weekend. That works for you, wouldn't for me and a lot of other people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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popsjumper 2 #12 August 8, 2006 QuoteBut I like skydivers better than whuffos. What should I do? ..Ask Sunshine? I have the same amount of friends as both before and after skydiving...none. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #13 August 8, 2006 Yes. Based on research, (i'll have to find it again) and mine as well as a few others personal experience, you may go through a life-altering period of accomplishment and achievement that helps you accomplish more personal goals/feats until that super-personality wears off. The average tims is actually about 18 months (but it took me 2 years). You then slip back to your normal self. But, some may remember that they accomplished a lot and realize it was them all along and such future personal pushes are easier, and there's some who wait for the next "wave" to help them with their next super-selves. So yes, sooner or later, you have to face yourself after your "vacation" and make hard self-assesments: are you really a changed person? Or . . . for those that haven't seen the research or never cared about anything but to just have fun. . ."Hunny, I need to upgrade to the newer container, do you want a footrub for a year?"_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #14 August 8, 2006 I've noticed it's usually "newbies" that say they can't date a whuffo. Whatever. I've dated jumpers and whuffos since i started jumping. I have the same bad luck with both. If only Popsjumper would give me a chance.... ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #15 August 8, 2006 Quote....If only Popsjumper would give me a chance.... Love to sweet thing but that's an encounter I probably would not survive. Me not being a jerk/asshole, I have a feeling you would eat me alive. <<>> My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #16 August 8, 2006 QuoteYou then slip back to your normal self. My husband will be relieved to hear this. If he hangs in there for that long! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #17 August 8, 2006 QuoteIf you are going to limit your friends and significant others to skydivers, you are missing out. B You spent a whole post telling us how diversity is good and how polar opposites can work, and then told us that a lot of us are missing out. I've been married to a whuffo, and we also compromised for a while. Ten years ago we divorced. In 20 years time, you will know whether your relationship or your sport or both have survived as long as I've been jumping. Crowing about it now smacks of arrogance. For me "right non-skydiver" is a contridiction. I have all I need in my SO. I have no need to search through catalogs of whuffos. To each their own. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #18 August 8, 2006 Quote...catalogs of whuffos. They have catalogs? Where can I get one? Can you send me the section for female Blue-eyed Blondes? My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #19 August 8, 2006 Quote Let's get something straight, jumping out of a plane does not make you the bravest, coolest, sexiest kid on the block. Oh shit NOW someone tells me! "We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian425 0 #20 August 8, 2006 Tonto, I perfectly comfortable with people disagreeing with me. I very lucky to have met a very diverse group of people skydiving. It's contributed to making me a better person. I will stand by what I said. I do not like that some jumpers look down on Whuffos. It smacks of elitism. Jumping out of airplanes is either a job or a hobby. Just like bowling or racing cars or golf. The fact is if you limit the group you socialize with to only people who share your passion, you are missing out. Eva's already been with me through the bad times. The only reason our relationship would fail is if one of us stopped working at it. Anything that is valuable takes work. Being a good husband/wife, a good skydiver, a good employee, etc. I hope that one day, we can sit in a rocking chair and talk about our youth together. That's my goal. I'll never be the greatest skydiver. I may never be the best husband. I can tell you one thing, I will work at the family life way before skydiving. So maybe I am not hardcore. It works for me. Peace and blue skies. B The only time you should look down on someone is when you are offering them your hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buried 0 #21 August 8, 2006 QuoteQuote...catalogs of whuffos. They have catalogs? Where can I get one? Can you send me the section for female Blue-eyed Blondes? refer to this thread http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2346135#2346135 Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRSKY71 0 #22 August 8, 2006 I've thought about this subject a lot since meeting my current SO. I'm saddened by the quickness with which we, as human beings, are so willing to exclude others from our lives. The fact of the matter is that one never really knows where one's true love will come from. I have NEVER been athletic, and specifically never into extreme sports, and although for a short period of time I did consider skydiving, I would have never in a million years imagined that I would fall in love and be with a skydiver!! Although I have three jumps under my belt, I very much consider myself a WHUFFO b/c I have such respect for the sport and those in it that I would not lump myself in with them or call myself a skydiver. As a WHUFFO it is easy to understand the potential (and sometimes very real) conflict between both worlds. I worry about my SO jumping and yet I feel very bad that he is not able to jump as often as he would like. But more than anything, I NEVER want to be the cause of his not jumping!! And, I know I would NEVER ask him to choose. I think finding true honest love is difficult enough and that excluding a certain group of people b/c they are skydivers or whuffos or anything else is just a great loss. But, being the whuffo in a relationship is certainly not an easy task either. Reaching true compromise is key! However, I have no idea how!! Character cannot be made except by a steady, long continued process. -- Phillips Brooks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #23 August 8, 2006 QuoteThe key is that you have to support and love each other. She knows that skydiving is important to me. So we compromise. Yup, I can only go to the DZ one day on the weekend. And you know what, for me that is a good thing. One day is for what I want to do, the other is for what she wants to do. If they conflict, we compromise. Have been doing the same thing for more then a year my self. Wouldn't change it for anythingI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vskydiver 0 #24 August 8, 2006 OOPS! Too late! I saw that! It aint gonna happen. I don't share very well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #25 August 9, 2006 Quote So we compromise. Yup, I can only go to the DZ one day on the weekend. That works for you, wouldn't for me and a lot of other people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
