Gawain 0 #26 July 28, 2006 QuoteThat's what I put in, a K&N air filter... Oh, and by the way, several automakers will not void a warranty with an air filter change. A different air-intake, maybe, but it really depends on the car. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt1215 0 #27 July 28, 2006 I do pretty much everything myself, including the clutch on my last car. The base has a nice auto-hobby shop with all kinds of fancy tools. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spatula 0 #28 July 28, 2006 QuoteThe base has a nice auto-hobby shop with all kinds of fancy tools. Ah, I miss the days on the base. Auto Center down the road, free lifts/tools/oil disposal.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phillbo 11 #29 July 28, 2006 I don't do the tire rotation but i do all other general stuff. Oil changes are 65.00 for my beast so i do it myself. Diesel's don't have sparkplugs to worry about Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #30 July 28, 2006 QuoteDo you mean mass airflow sensor? Yes K&N and other reusable airfilters can cause the airflow sensor to malfunction. However, this is due to over-oiling the filter after cleaning. The excess oil will collect on the sensor. Easy solution is to wrap the filter in a towel (after oiling) and let it sit for 2-3 hours to soak up the excess. I run a 4x4 shop and install a hell of a lot of K&N intake kits without problems. same thing.. too much oil can ruin it. and not having any oil at al in your airfilter can ruin it.. knn filters usually have too much oil. aftermarket store baught aifilters dont have any. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #31 July 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteThat's what I put in, a K&N air filter... Oh, and by the way, several automakers will not void a warranty with an air filter change. A different air-intake, maybe, but it really depends on the car. it depends on the car. there is a nissan tech bullitin issued to us. NTB01-o36a. states "it wont let me copy and past""it is encrypted". but basicly says, "poor air filtration from non factory air filter" will void the warrenty on the airflow meter."air mass sensor" "mass airflow sensor" whatever you want to call it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #32 July 28, 2006 Depends on which Car. I have 4. Honda Accord... Take it in. Still under Bumper to bumper warranty. Let them handle maintenance so there are no questions if anything is ever needed. Conversion Van... Do it all myself. (Its Older (1993) and a shop or dealer would try to up sell me too many repairs if I took it in) 1971 340 Duster (Bracket Car)- Do it all myself. No one touches that engine but me. 1966 Belvedere - Do it all myself. Still working on the restoration. Will be a nice Weekend Cruiser when Done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #33 July 28, 2006 QuoteConversion Van... Do it all myself. (Its Older (1993) and a shop or dealer would try to up sell me too many repairs if I took it in) i get both kinds of people. people like you who get mad when you tell them the problems with the car. then you get the people that bitch and complain and make it my fault when something breaks, bewcause i didnt warn them about it. then i get the people that get mad because i dont tell them what is wrong with there car. it is a no win situation for us, you can decide to do the work or not. fucking customers in the car buisness are the bitchiest peolple ever. im eathir trying to fuck you over, or your pissed off that your car is broiken.. /end rant. why do you thinki have gotten the way i am jay? fucking dealing with bitchy people all the time. you would be suprized what a nice smaill and a good attitude will get you at a car dealer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #34 July 28, 2006 <> - I do a number of full 360 degree tyre rotations everytime that I go out (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pop 0 #35 July 28, 2006 Quote charge me $65 to change the air filter!!! Was that including the airfilter...or just for the labor?7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #36 July 28, 2006 Quoteit is a no win situation for us, you can decide to do the work or not. The people at Jiffy Lube used to throw a fit when I declined all services except oil change. They'd say "Manufacturer recommends" and fail to mention that the interval was for hard service (towing, off-road, etc). I kinda irritated them when they were screwing over an older woman in front of me once. They upsold her over $400 in services on her car that only had 11,000 miles on it (e.g. coolant flush, tranny flush, some sort of battery service, etc). I finally stepped in and interrupted with "Ma'am, just get the oil change. Decline everything else. Tonight get our your service manual and find out for yourself when things need to be done." The next time I went back, I asked 'em to change my wiper blades, as I was heading over a mountain pass in the winter. They charged me for it...and when I hit the snowline I realized they hadn't done it. I squinted my way through it, got some refills at a dealer, and got a refund from Jiffy Lube when I got home. The next time I went back, the guy brought me my PCV valve. He shook it so I could hear the valve clinking back & forth inside and told me that meant the valve was broken. I told him to try that on someone a little less gullible and never went back. I don't like liars. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites downwardspiral 0 #37 July 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteDo you mean mass airflow sensor? Yes K&N and other reusable airfilters can cause the airflow sensor to malfunction. However, this is due to over-oiling the filter after cleaning. The excess oil will collect on the sensor. Easy solution is to wrap the filter in a towel (after oiling) and let it sit for 2-3 hours to soak up the excess. I run a 4x4 shop and install a hell of a lot of K&N intake kits without problems. same thing.. too much oil can ruin it. and not having any oil at al in your airfilter can ruin it.. knn filters usually have too much oil. aftermarket store baught aifilters dont have any. That hasn't been my experience. We do about $6K-$7K in K&N sales per month and I have yet to see a single problem come directly out of the box. Its always after cleaning/oiling that I see the problems. Hence its the user not the manufacturer. Of course dealers tend to be a little biased towards aftermarket parts. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stoneycase 0 #38 July 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteit is a no win situation for us, you can decide to do the work or not. The people at Jiffy Lube used to throw a fit when I declined all services except oil change. They'd say "Manufacturer recommends" and fail to mention that the interval was for hard service (towing, off-road, etc). I kinda irritated them when they were screwing over an older woman in front of me once. They upsold her over $400 in services on her car that only had 11,000 miles on it (e.g. coolant flush, tranny flush, some sort of battery service, etc). I finally stepped in and interrupted with "Ma'am, just get the oil change. Decline everything else. Tonight get our your service manual and find out for yourself when things need to be done." The next time I went back, I asked 'em to change my wiper blades, as I was heading over a mountain pass in the winter. They charged me for it...and when I hit the snowline I realized they hadn't done it. I squinted my way through it, got some refills at a dealer, and got a refund from Jiffy Lube when I got home. The next time I went back, the guy brought me my PCV valve. He shook it so I could hear the valve clinking back & forth inside and told me that meant the valve was broken. I told him to try that on someone a little less gullible and never went back. I don't like liars. Blues, Dave LOL, nice trick with the PCV valve... Myself I've been to a few JiffyLube's on CA central coast and haven't had much problems. There is the constant question of "tire rotation/fluid change" but a simple decline is enough to shut them up. Only once did I acutally purchase the 'upsell' - changing my cabin air filter...damn thing had dead bees in it...Really I haven't had any problems with oil changes for my Audi at JiffyLube, hell in this area I see MBenz and BMW on those lifts *all the time* But it only takes once...maybe I should hunt for a mom-n-pop shop near me...Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nanook 1 #39 July 29, 2006 QuoteOf course dealers tend to be a little biased towards aftermarket parts. Usually, aftermarket products tend to be inferior and cause dealerships to pay out more on warranties. Personally, I think K & N as more "novelty" than practical. Sure you are going to get it for a lifetiime, but considering most vehicles are rarely kept after 150,000 miles, savings aren't going to break 100 bucks, but you have to do more work._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryno1972 0 #40 July 29, 2006 Sometimes though, I have tested several MAFs, after testing with scope and monitering data with a MODIS, I will remove the MAF and clean the hot wire. We stock a specific cleaner for this. Usually that will solve the problem, once the gunk is cleaned off the hotwire, the signal voltage will return to normal and the car will run fine. But of course, that does not always work, depends on the vehicle...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Icon134 0 #41 July 29, 2006 see my This Stupid Fucking Nut" Thread... for the answer... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Guest #42 July 29, 2006 QuoteI do just about everything but oil changes. My time is worth more to me than it costs to have someone else do it. Same here - my sentiments exactly. There is also the little matter of disposing of the waste oil. It's just not worth all the hassle when for $30 and ten minutes at Grease Minkey (as I call it, after Peter Sellers - heh), you drive away with your oil changed, fluids topped off, tires inflated, interior vacuumed, and windows cleaned. Yes, it's worth it. However, when the front pads on the spousal unit's ride got worn down and ruined the rotors, I was willing and able to do that, and it was a quick, cheap job. New rotors and pads (the boots were fine) were $20 a pair each, and it only took about 90 minutes to get the ride back on the road. Saved myself a hundred bucks, and didn't have to wait around at Les Hommes de Pep (they do excellent work, BTW) for it to get done. Back in Tidewater, I replaced the head gasket on a 4-cylinder SPI engine. I didn't want to do the work, but I couldn't afford to pay to have it done. Haynes manuals are the best. Full disassembly with each part tagged and bagged with the disassembly step and the car's IPB (illustrated parts breakdown). The result? No parts missing, no parts left over when it went back together. The head was milled and properly torqued by a mechanic friend of mine. Ran like a champ. That same mechanic told me that the best way to make sure your car doesn't develop expensive problems is to take care of the periodic maintenance (e.g., oil changes, filters, coolant, belts, hoses, etc.) faithfully. It's neglect of the little things that will result in big (and expensive) things happening. But I had an ignition module in my Ranger crap out last year and I wasn't able to diagnose it, so I had to pay someone else to do that for me, unfortunately. mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MF42 0 #43 July 29, 2006 QuoteHaynes manuals are the best. I have to disagree here. Having purchased both Haynes and Chiltons manuals for various cars I've owned, the side-by-side comparison leaves Chiltons on top. The instructions are clear and accurate, the photos and diagrams are higher quality, and Chiltons does a better job of documenting some of the small differences that are found even between cars of the same model and year. Matt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RJmoney 0 #44 July 29, 2006 I disagree also, clearly john muir's "how to keep your volkswagen alive" is the best car repair manual ever written and probably in the list of top 10 books ever written. If you don't happen to drive an aircooled vw thats another problem entirely. late, RJ$$word to your mother, RJ$$ BASE 1117 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Broke 0 #45 July 29, 2006 Hayes manuals are ok. Check Ebay for the Factory service manual for your vehicle. A FSM is the most complete book you can buy for any vehicel.Divot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites downwardspiral 0 #46 July 29, 2006 QuoteQuoteOf course dealers tend to be a little biased towards aftermarket parts. Usually, aftermarket products tend to be inferior and cause dealerships to pay out more on warranties. Personally, I think K & N as more "novelty" than practical. Sure you are going to get it for a lifetiime, but considering most vehicles are rarely kept after 150,000 miles, savings aren't going to break 100 bucks, but you have to do more work. I work in an industry where customers are looking to improve the performance of their vehicles. You can do that with factory performance parts but will pay 10 times what they're actually worth. So its my job to know what's quality and what isn't. If you want cheap parts I'll let you know its going to give you problems so don't come crying to me when they do. They almost never buy from me after I tell em that because they want to be able to complain later on and they know I'll just look em in the face and say I told you so. AS far as the K&N being a "novelty"....I would have a difficult time arguing against that if you are referring to the regular replacement filter. However, their intake kits are hardly novel and are well worth the price of admission.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 4 #47 July 29, 2006 QuoteI do just about everything but oil changes. My time is worth more to me than it costs to have someone else do it. Blues, Dave Same here, Dave. I am way too lazy these days to change oil in a car. My bikes, yes, but not the trucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiver30960 0 #48 July 29, 2006 I've bought the manual for each car I've ever bought, even though I only do the simplest work myself (air/fuel filters, lights, etc.). When something shits the bed, just reading up a little bit on the problem I'm having makes me feel so much better about talking with the mechanic. I managed to blindly stumble into a shop nearby that I've really come to trust; they take good care of my car without sticking it to me. I go to Jiffy Lube for LOF, rotations, and any fluid changes, since I just don't have the facilities at home. They're always hitting me up for more, but the way I look at it: it was running fine when I brought it to them, it'll keep running fine even if I don't get the widgets tightened or whatever else they're pawning. Elvisio "it's all ball bearings nowadays" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites marks 0 #49 July 31, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteDo you mean mass airflow sensor? Yes K&N and other reusable airfilters can cause the airflow sensor to malfunction. However, this is due to over-oiling the filter after cleaning. The excess oil will collect on the sensor. Easy solution is to wrap the filter in a towel (after oiling) and let it sit for 2-3 hours to soak up the excess. I run a 4x4 shop and install a hell of a lot of K&N intake kits without problems. same thing.. too much oil can ruin it. and not having any oil at al in your airfilter can ruin it.. knn filters usually have too much oil. aftermarket store baught aifilters dont have any. That hasn't been my experience. We do about $6K-$7K in K&N sales per month and I have yet to see a single problem come directly out of the box. Its always after cleaning/oiling that I see the problems. Hence its the user not the manufacturer. Of course dealers tend to be a little biased towards aftermarket parts. not biased, I just get the problems brought to me when the check engine light comes on because the car is under warrenty... you dont see em come back to you because they have to pay you!... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites marks 0 #50 July 31, 2006 QuoteSometimes though, I have tested several MAFs, after testing with scope and monitering data with a MODIS, I will remove the MAF and clean the hot wire. We stock a specific cleaner for this. Usually that will solve the problem, once the gunk is cleaned off the hotwire, the signal voltage will return to normal and the car will run fine. But of course, that does not always work, depends on the vehicle...... true, but the manufacturer will not pay me to do this..they will pay for the part replacement though, I work in a dealer so it is a little different there. 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shropshire 0 #34 July 28, 2006 <> - I do a number of full 360 degree tyre rotations everytime that I go out (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #35 July 28, 2006 Quote charge me $65 to change the air filter!!! Was that including the airfilter...or just for the labor?7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #36 July 28, 2006 Quoteit is a no win situation for us, you can decide to do the work or not. The people at Jiffy Lube used to throw a fit when I declined all services except oil change. They'd say "Manufacturer recommends" and fail to mention that the interval was for hard service (towing, off-road, etc). I kinda irritated them when they were screwing over an older woman in front of me once. They upsold her over $400 in services on her car that only had 11,000 miles on it (e.g. coolant flush, tranny flush, some sort of battery service, etc). I finally stepped in and interrupted with "Ma'am, just get the oil change. Decline everything else. Tonight get our your service manual and find out for yourself when things need to be done." The next time I went back, I asked 'em to change my wiper blades, as I was heading over a mountain pass in the winter. They charged me for it...and when I hit the snowline I realized they hadn't done it. I squinted my way through it, got some refills at a dealer, and got a refund from Jiffy Lube when I got home. The next time I went back, the guy brought me my PCV valve. He shook it so I could hear the valve clinking back & forth inside and told me that meant the valve was broken. I told him to try that on someone a little less gullible and never went back. I don't like liars. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #37 July 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteDo you mean mass airflow sensor? Yes K&N and other reusable airfilters can cause the airflow sensor to malfunction. However, this is due to over-oiling the filter after cleaning. The excess oil will collect on the sensor. Easy solution is to wrap the filter in a towel (after oiling) and let it sit for 2-3 hours to soak up the excess. I run a 4x4 shop and install a hell of a lot of K&N intake kits without problems. same thing.. too much oil can ruin it. and not having any oil at al in your airfilter can ruin it.. knn filters usually have too much oil. aftermarket store baught aifilters dont have any. That hasn't been my experience. We do about $6K-$7K in K&N sales per month and I have yet to see a single problem come directly out of the box. Its always after cleaning/oiling that I see the problems. Hence its the user not the manufacturer. Of course dealers tend to be a little biased towards aftermarket parts. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stoneycase 0 #38 July 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteit is a no win situation for us, you can decide to do the work or not. The people at Jiffy Lube used to throw a fit when I declined all services except oil change. They'd say "Manufacturer recommends" and fail to mention that the interval was for hard service (towing, off-road, etc). I kinda irritated them when they were screwing over an older woman in front of me once. They upsold her over $400 in services on her car that only had 11,000 miles on it (e.g. coolant flush, tranny flush, some sort of battery service, etc). I finally stepped in and interrupted with "Ma'am, just get the oil change. Decline everything else. Tonight get our your service manual and find out for yourself when things need to be done." The next time I went back, I asked 'em to change my wiper blades, as I was heading over a mountain pass in the winter. They charged me for it...and when I hit the snowline I realized they hadn't done it. I squinted my way through it, got some refills at a dealer, and got a refund from Jiffy Lube when I got home. The next time I went back, the guy brought me my PCV valve. He shook it so I could hear the valve clinking back & forth inside and told me that meant the valve was broken. I told him to try that on someone a little less gullible and never went back. I don't like liars. Blues, Dave LOL, nice trick with the PCV valve... Myself I've been to a few JiffyLube's on CA central coast and haven't had much problems. There is the constant question of "tire rotation/fluid change" but a simple decline is enough to shut them up. Only once did I acutally purchase the 'upsell' - changing my cabin air filter...damn thing had dead bees in it...Really I haven't had any problems with oil changes for my Audi at JiffyLube, hell in this area I see MBenz and BMW on those lifts *all the time* But it only takes once...maybe I should hunt for a mom-n-pop shop near me...Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #39 July 29, 2006 QuoteOf course dealers tend to be a little biased towards aftermarket parts. Usually, aftermarket products tend to be inferior and cause dealerships to pay out more on warranties. Personally, I think K & N as more "novelty" than practical. Sure you are going to get it for a lifetiime, but considering most vehicles are rarely kept after 150,000 miles, savings aren't going to break 100 bucks, but you have to do more work._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryno1972 0 #40 July 29, 2006 Sometimes though, I have tested several MAFs, after testing with scope and monitering data with a MODIS, I will remove the MAF and clean the hot wire. We stock a specific cleaner for this. Usually that will solve the problem, once the gunk is cleaned off the hotwire, the signal voltage will return to normal and the car will run fine. But of course, that does not always work, depends on the vehicle...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #41 July 29, 2006 see my This Stupid Fucking Nut" Thread... for the answer... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #42 July 29, 2006 QuoteI do just about everything but oil changes. My time is worth more to me than it costs to have someone else do it. Same here - my sentiments exactly. There is also the little matter of disposing of the waste oil. It's just not worth all the hassle when for $30 and ten minutes at Grease Minkey (as I call it, after Peter Sellers - heh), you drive away with your oil changed, fluids topped off, tires inflated, interior vacuumed, and windows cleaned. Yes, it's worth it. However, when the front pads on the spousal unit's ride got worn down and ruined the rotors, I was willing and able to do that, and it was a quick, cheap job. New rotors and pads (the boots were fine) were $20 a pair each, and it only took about 90 minutes to get the ride back on the road. Saved myself a hundred bucks, and didn't have to wait around at Les Hommes de Pep (they do excellent work, BTW) for it to get done. Back in Tidewater, I replaced the head gasket on a 4-cylinder SPI engine. I didn't want to do the work, but I couldn't afford to pay to have it done. Haynes manuals are the best. Full disassembly with each part tagged and bagged with the disassembly step and the car's IPB (illustrated parts breakdown). The result? No parts missing, no parts left over when it went back together. The head was milled and properly torqued by a mechanic friend of mine. Ran like a champ. That same mechanic told me that the best way to make sure your car doesn't develop expensive problems is to take care of the periodic maintenance (e.g., oil changes, filters, coolant, belts, hoses, etc.) faithfully. It's neglect of the little things that will result in big (and expensive) things happening. But I had an ignition module in my Ranger crap out last year and I wasn't able to diagnose it, so I had to pay someone else to do that for me, unfortunately. mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MF42 0 #43 July 29, 2006 QuoteHaynes manuals are the best. I have to disagree here. Having purchased both Haynes and Chiltons manuals for various cars I've owned, the side-by-side comparison leaves Chiltons on top. The instructions are clear and accurate, the photos and diagrams are higher quality, and Chiltons does a better job of documenting some of the small differences that are found even between cars of the same model and year. Matt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJmoney 0 #44 July 29, 2006 I disagree also, clearly john muir's "how to keep your volkswagen alive" is the best car repair manual ever written and probably in the list of top 10 books ever written. If you don't happen to drive an aircooled vw thats another problem entirely. late, RJ$$word to your mother, RJ$$ BASE 1117 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #45 July 29, 2006 Hayes manuals are ok. Check Ebay for the Factory service manual for your vehicle. A FSM is the most complete book you can buy for any vehicel.Divot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #46 July 29, 2006 QuoteQuoteOf course dealers tend to be a little biased towards aftermarket parts. Usually, aftermarket products tend to be inferior and cause dealerships to pay out more on warranties. Personally, I think K & N as more "novelty" than practical. Sure you are going to get it for a lifetiime, but considering most vehicles are rarely kept after 150,000 miles, savings aren't going to break 100 bucks, but you have to do more work. I work in an industry where customers are looking to improve the performance of their vehicles. You can do that with factory performance parts but will pay 10 times what they're actually worth. So its my job to know what's quality and what isn't. If you want cheap parts I'll let you know its going to give you problems so don't come crying to me when they do. They almost never buy from me after I tell em that because they want to be able to complain later on and they know I'll just look em in the face and say I told you so. AS far as the K&N being a "novelty"....I would have a difficult time arguing against that if you are referring to the regular replacement filter. However, their intake kits are hardly novel and are well worth the price of admission.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #47 July 29, 2006 QuoteI do just about everything but oil changes. My time is worth more to me than it costs to have someone else do it. Blues, Dave Same here, Dave. I am way too lazy these days to change oil in a car. My bikes, yes, but not the trucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #48 July 29, 2006 I've bought the manual for each car I've ever bought, even though I only do the simplest work myself (air/fuel filters, lights, etc.). When something shits the bed, just reading up a little bit on the problem I'm having makes me feel so much better about talking with the mechanic. I managed to blindly stumble into a shop nearby that I've really come to trust; they take good care of my car without sticking it to me. I go to Jiffy Lube for LOF, rotations, and any fluid changes, since I just don't have the facilities at home. They're always hitting me up for more, but the way I look at it: it was running fine when I brought it to them, it'll keep running fine even if I don't get the widgets tightened or whatever else they're pawning. Elvisio "it's all ball bearings nowadays" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #49 July 31, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteDo you mean mass airflow sensor? Yes K&N and other reusable airfilters can cause the airflow sensor to malfunction. However, this is due to over-oiling the filter after cleaning. The excess oil will collect on the sensor. Easy solution is to wrap the filter in a towel (after oiling) and let it sit for 2-3 hours to soak up the excess. I run a 4x4 shop and install a hell of a lot of K&N intake kits without problems. same thing.. too much oil can ruin it. and not having any oil at al in your airfilter can ruin it.. knn filters usually have too much oil. aftermarket store baught aifilters dont have any. That hasn't been my experience. We do about $6K-$7K in K&N sales per month and I have yet to see a single problem come directly out of the box. Its always after cleaning/oiling that I see the problems. Hence its the user not the manufacturer. Of course dealers tend to be a little biased towards aftermarket parts. not biased, I just get the problems brought to me when the check engine light comes on because the car is under warrenty... you dont see em come back to you because they have to pay you!... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #50 July 31, 2006 QuoteSometimes though, I have tested several MAFs, after testing with scope and monitering data with a MODIS, I will remove the MAF and clean the hot wire. We stock a specific cleaner for this. Usually that will solve the problem, once the gunk is cleaned off the hotwire, the signal voltage will return to normal and the car will run fine. But of course, that does not always work, depends on the vehicle...... true, but the manufacturer will not pay me to do this..they will pay for the part replacement though, I work in a dealer so it is a little different there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
