Tri 190 in J3?

[jtnesbitt 0]

Has anyone had any experience with or heard of putting a Triathalon 190 in a Javelin J3? According to sunpaths website it will only fit up to a 170 however I've talked to a couple people that have said they believe it will fit. I havent spoken with anyone who has actually done it though. The canopy is in a speed bag so that should hlep a little. Any thoughts/ideas?

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[Ironmanjay 0]

call sunpath and ask them they would be the best ones to give you advice on that

[sunshine 2]

I had a Tri 190 in my J3 before. It was a bitch to pack since it was too big for the container.

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Has anyone had any experience with or heard of putting a Triathalon 190 in a Javelin J3? According to sunpaths website it will only fit up to a 170 however I've talked to a couple people that have said they believe it will fit. I havent spoken with anyone who has actually done it though. The canopy is in a speed bag so that should hlep a little. Any thoughts/ideas?

I also had a Tri 190 in a J3. As stated above, it was a carnival ride when packing, but it looked fine and I put about 150 jumps on it with no issues at all. Good canopy too...

[AndyMan 7]

I had a Triathlon 190 in a J3 for many many jumps. Unlike the others, I really didn't have any difficulty packing it. I found it quite easy, actually...

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[seal_S49 0]

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Unlike the others, I really didn't have any difficulty packing it. I found it quite easy, actually...

I'm glad to read that I'm not the only one who still knows how to pack. I like the J-3/Tri 190 combination well enough that I custom-ordered both these components to assemble a demo rig for flag jumps. I packed it 250+ times and found it easy enough.

When my former student bought a used J3 rig, he asked me what canopy to put in it, because the original main was too small for his experience. Aerodyne was offering 1/2 price on new Tri's at that time, so I suggested a 190. With only about 50 pack jobs under his belt, he found it manageable.

IMO, the Tri-190 is about the biggest canopy that fits nicely in a J3. I've seen bigger canopies packed, but they don't fit that well.

Interesting to note that my former student called Sunpath & was told that the Tri-190 is too big for the J3. On paper, maybe it is. But this SP rep. probably never actually tried it. Many jumpers don't realize how much smaller a 7-cell packs when compared to 9-cells.

My answer to the OP is in these two questions:
1) Are you willing to learn good packing skills if needed?
2) Are you willing to compromise the size of your main to get an easier pack-job?

[cabbage 0]

My Son jumps a Triathalon 190 in a J3. I've also jumped it and packed it without any problems. My son has a bit of a problem getting it in the bag but some of that might be lack of practice or more likely just him conning me into packing it for him.

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[WatchYourStep 0]

Don't forget to consider what size of reserve it holds. It says online that it'll hold a 160 reserve. Do you feel comfortable flying a canopy that is 30 feet smaller when you are amped up and going to reserve? Not saying you shouldn't, just make sure you consider it.

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[seal_S49 0]

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It says online that it'll hold a 160 reserve.

This is another generalization.

Not all reserves are created equally. While a PD 160r fills out a J-3 quite well, I commonly pack a Raven I (181sf) reserve into a J-3 with room to spare. As a matter of fact, I have owned a Raven II (218sf) that fit successfully and safely into this same size container.

Yeah, OK--you might have a strong case for or against a particular mfr's canopy, but this example just illustrates how much variation you can expect in actual pack volume & published info.

[jtnesbitt 0]

Awesome guys, i really appreciate all of the advice. I really like both the canopy and the container so I'd be willing new learn a new packing method if necessary but I don't think that will be the case. As far the reserve goes for some reason I was thinking my friend said she had like a 171 in it but i could be wrong.

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[AndyMan 7]

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Not all reserves are created equally. While a PD 160r fills out a J-3 quite well, I commonly pack a Raven I (181sf) reserve into a J-3 with room to spare. As a matter of fact, I have owned a Raven II (218sf) that fit successfully and safely into this same size container.

Oh good. I had a Tempo 210 in mine.
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[SethInMI 174]

I have a Tri 190 in a J3. With a PD 176 reserve no less. Its a little tight, but I have about 50 jumps on it, and I can pack it now with no trouble. It was a challenge when I started, as the Tri was brand new.

If you go to Aerodyne's web site, you will find they have pack volumes for the 190 Tri and 168 Pilot as almost the same (420 for the Tri, 416 for the 168 Pilot, a difference of 1%. Since they are from the same manufacturer, I would think they can be compared without the usual caveat).

The 2-3 times I have paid for packjobs, I have watched the packers slide it into the bag easy as pie (or at least thats how they make it look).

[edit: I see the rigger who recommended this combo to me has already posted several times in this thread. I could have saved the trouble of typing this out! Oh well...That's what I get for not reading the whole thing :)]
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