bloody_trauma 2 #126 July 4, 2006 i think we should all watch some sex and the cityFly it like you stole it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #127 July 4, 2006 QuoteCouples should be REQUIRED to get premarital counseling to get married, in my opinion...and couples need to sit down and talk about their expectations for the marriage. Many times people jump into marriage with highly unrealistic expectations; if only someone had taught them what really goes on in a marriage, there would be better chances of a marriage lasting, or the wedding actually being called off. I'm with you - I think premarital counselling is a really good idea. I know that if you want to get married in the Catholic Church in Ireland, you have to attend counselling beforehand. Friends of mine that aren't particularly religious have done it, and said it was great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #128 July 5, 2006 Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Most of these problems that I see come from one or both spouses putting their own interests above the interests of the spouse. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does this mean that a man is obliged (expected) to sacrifice his own future (livelihood, career progress, etc.) for the sake of another person, no matter what? Or is there balance? I lost my first love because I wasn't willing to make those sacrifices. I have my present wife because I was and AM willing to make those sacrifices. When the SO is worth those sacrifices, welcome to whatever. I realize now that Number 1 wasn't worth it to me. If she ain't worth it, don't promise "forever." I'd rather live in a gutter with her than in an expansive estate without her. Thanks to her, I'd scorn to change my state with kings. Balance? It goes out the window "forever." My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #129 July 5, 2006 Hi Dino We never went to premarital counselling or church for that matter before we were married or since. With 31 yr's of hindsight I don't think it would have made our marriage any better than it is. OTOH I think that haveing good role models to follow is very important. My Boss came from a awesome blue collar family that gave her a level head. The boss was 10 yr's younger than us but she's taught us a lot based on what she learned at home. In the US 50% of marriages fail due to $$$ issues If you want a high maintenance trophy for a partner (show dog, party animal) thats what you'll get. I wanted a go dog and thats what I got. I know we'll get to continue to grow older together, no matter how many more lbs, grey hair, health issues etc. We Lucked out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaden 0 #130 July 5, 2006 Yes...Marriage is a contract based solely on your personally written vows. It is as strong as your promise. In my eyes Marriage=Posession. This is the part that I do not agree with... We must make our choices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #131 July 5, 2006 Good example? When I was 16, I went to Alaska to visit my grandpa. Living with him was this man named Fred. A really kick ass man. In those days, my trust and belief in the goodness of any man was exceptionally negative. Over the course of 2 months, I got to know Fred. I thought the world of him. I came back and told my mom that I met the man that I wanted her to marry and wanted to become my dad. It took her 2 years to make it to Alaska. When she finally got there for her 2 week visit, they dated the whole time. She came back home practically singing about him. They kept in touch and he sent her diamond earrings in the mail and said he's coming to get her. She quit her job, moved to Alaska, and on Dec. 31st married him. They were together for almost 15 years before dad passed away from cancer. Those were the happiest and most love filled years that I had ever seen my mom go through. They were soulmates. Forever does happen...you just need to find the right one.Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teamjenn1 0 #132 July 5, 2006 Your story gave me goosebumps! *********************************** "His dick is ringing!" Female Skydiver "Well...answer it!!!" Male Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #133 July 5, 2006 Why did you crop your new avatar where you did? My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teamjenn1 0 #134 July 5, 2006 unfortunately...that is how the picture was taken...I didn't crop it that way on purpose...I just have a big ass that wouldn't fit in the frame! *********************************** "His dick is ringing!" Female Skydiver "Well...answer it!!!" Male Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaden 0 #135 July 5, 2006 Absolutely...Great story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRSKY71 0 #136 July 5, 2006 Absolutely beautiful story and I'm truly sorry about his passing away. Thanks for sharing! Character cannot be made except by a steady, long continued process. -- Phillips Brooks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #137 July 5, 2006 Quote1. You either take the take the job in Kosovo, or you lose your house. 2. But if you take the job in Kosovo, you will lose your spouse. After months of agonizing, I took what was behind Door # 1. Fortunately, I still have both house and spouse (bless her heart, she was willing to compromise). Sounds like you and your wife have similar values. Should set you up well for the long run. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brierebecca 0 #138 July 5, 2006 This is a great thread. I'll contribute. My parents have been married almost thirty years. I've never heard them raise their voices towards one another, and they really are eachother's best friend. They still snuggle on the couch and dance in the kitchen. It's kinda gross, but in a cute couple kinda way. I just got married to a wonderful man. I can't share any longevity stories, but I can say that our relationship has been effortless. We have our minor disagreements here and there, but we are eachother's favorite people, and I would rather be at home with him than anywhere else. I have no doubt that we'll be together forever. Brie"Ive seen you hump air, hump the floor of the plane, and hump legs. You now have a new nickname: "Black Humper of Death"--yardhippie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #139 July 5, 2006 They still snuggle on the couch and dance in the kitchen. *** Hey...my wife & I do that too! Drives the kids NUTS! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenz 0 #140 July 6, 2006 good question - what is forever for anymore"life does throw curveballs sometimes but it doesn't mean we shouldn't still swing for the homerun" ~ me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #141 July 6, 2006 Quotewhat causes someone to go from loving that one person with all that they are and wanting to spend the rest of their life with them - to suddenly being unsure of everything all together? how does that happen? I'm no expert but I think often those doubts are in place long before the SO is aware of them... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #142 July 6, 2006 Awwwww! What a cute story. QuoteI've never heard them raise their voices towards one another, and they really are each other's best friend. They still snuggle on the couch and dance in the kitchen. It's kinda gross, but in a cute couple kinda way. I don't think it's gross at all. I'm not married now....but if I ever did it again, I'd like to be this way! Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #143 July 6, 2006 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- what causes someone to go from loving that one person with all that they are and wanting to spend the rest of their life with them - to suddenly being unsure of everything all together? how does that happen? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I dunno....but it happened to me. Once upon a time we were "lobsters," then we were divorced. Go figure! Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpjunkie2004 0 #144 July 6, 2006 Well...I haven't read this entire thread - it's very long - so please forgive me if someone already said this. Way back when marriage was invented, people had a very short life expectancy. When you said, I will love you forever, it really only meant 10-15 years. If you got married when you were a teenager, forever might have meant 20 years tops. So, IMO...forever is 15 years.Jump, Land, Pack, Repeat... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #145 July 6, 2006 QuoteIf you got married when you were a teenager, forever might have meant 20 years tops. So, IMO...forever is 15 years. [BLACK]OUCH![/BLACK] Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpjunkie2004 0 #146 July 6, 2006 Don't mind me...I've been married almost 18 years and I'm not going to make it to 19. What I've learned???? 21 is too early to make a decision about the rest of your life. The things that are important when you are 21 aren't the same things that are important when you are 40.Jump, Land, Pack, Repeat... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #147 July 6, 2006 It's okay. I'm sure that there are many of us that feel your pain! Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaden 0 #148 July 6, 2006 You are absolutely correct... Impulsive decisions will usually bite us in the ass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaden 0 #149 July 10, 2006 I am truly sorry I jacked your thread...Another of my many annoying tendencies. Cheating is Deceit. This is by far the most selfish, disrespectful thing you can possibly do to someone you claim to love. If someone cheats on you, they did not deserve your love. I have not and will not ever cheat on my man. If by some very odd chance you shared an honest mutual agreement...I just can't see the harm in a kink. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharimcm 0 #150 July 11, 2006 I know this is a little late, but I have a happy story: My parents just celebrated their 35th wedding anniversary in May. They are still happily married, even holding hands and kissing in public. I think my parents are just awesome for sticking it out (and raising two wonderful daughters - OK, well me...). On the flipside... I was married for four years, now happily divorced. One night he got drunk and hit me... I left, never to return except at court for the divorce hearing. So, instead of "working it out..." I left... I didn't want it to happen again... So, there are some exceptions to "forever." "I had a dude tip his black cowboy hat to me after I provided him with a condom outside my hotel room at 3-something in the morning." -myself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites