Is she...

[ntrprnr 0]

The scene:

Dinner, nice Japanese fusion place downtown.

2nd date.

She tells a story about how she was in Vienna once, and how she felt so awed walking down the same streets Motzart and Beethoven once walked down.

He agrees, tells a story about the time he was in Vienna and the awe he felt, as well.

He then launches into a story about how Beethoven never received a proper burial, and how he was just put in a box in the ground because he had no money for a proper funeral, and how a hundred years or so later, a bunch of Beethoven fanatics decided to dig him up to give him the proper burial he never had, and how when they did, they were shocked to find him sitting up in his pine coffin, erasing all his music. "Beethoven, what are you doing," they asked. "Why, it's obvious," Beethoven replied. "I'm decomposing!"

He smiles, a genuine smile that said "I hope that somehow my corny joke made your night better."

She replies with "That was a joke? You know, people who have to tell corny jokes like that usually need to be the center of attention, and are unable to simply be, and I kind of feel like it was insulting to my story and for my memory of Vienna for you to counter by telling a joke like that. I really feel like jokes like that are insulting to the people forced to listen to them."

The night suffers on, and can't end quick enough.

He's amazed, because the first date seemed really, really fun. They seemed to click.

There obviously won't be a third date.

Holding no ill-will towards her, and accepting that sometimes, people just don't connect, or are just that different, he asks, was he so out of line? Is having a good sense of humor, and having the ability to be a good story-teller, a good humorist, no longer considered to be worthy traits in a potential mate? And if so, when did that happen, and how did he manage to not get the memo?

It's like that line from "Demolition Man," when Sylvester Stallone is told by Sandra Bullock that kissing is no longer legal.

"Damn," Stallone says. "I was a really good kisser!"

Damn, indeed, he says. He's a really good story-teller, with a great sense of humor. Is that no longer worth anything?

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"Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?"
"Even in freefall, I have commitment issues."

[swedishcelt 0]

It was a cute story. I would have laughed. Fuck her.

Oh wait. You can't.

[jumpjunkie2004 0]

Some people appreciate humor, some people don't : (

Jump, Land, Pack, Repeat...

[Jaden 0]

Give it another shot... You both had the same point. You felt the need to validate your thoughts. Don't mention the corny joke part, it will only cause confusion... If you're interested, compliments & apologies. IMO... From a chicks perspective. Good luck!

[legalart 0]

Run Forrest, Run!! From your description she sounds like a self-involved humorless twit. I agree with super-kitty.

[bhammond 0]

Peter,
There may have been a connection on the first date, but she may have been on her best behavior. I too have dated a girl/woman and things would be going great and all of a sudden a alter universe would appear and suddenly I was some horrible person that did something offending and found myself on the defensive.... at first I thought it was a cultural thing, then I thought it was the age difference ..10 years, then I thought it was manipulation, my final conclusion.... was she was just CRAZY!!! be happy that you only had two dates to find out that things didn't click.... and to all the females thinking it was me and I am a ass... really I replayed the events in my mind over and over trying to see where I might have blown it and I am completely sure I didnt... and if "she wants to post a response "yes she is a jumper" she should feel free

[NlghtJumper 0]

oooooooooooo

This could turn interesting.

[ Grabs a bag of popcorn and anxiously sits down to watch ]

A man will do anything for the right woman,
and when that woman destroys him,
that man will become a hunk of meat with the common sense of a rodeo clown! ~ Christopher Titus

[malboy 0]

cut... away

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[skymama 37]

The joke was fine, but I think you should have left out this part:

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He smiles, a genuine smile that said "I hope that somehow my corny joke made your night better."

She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

[Tonto 1]

"She's just not that into you."

And she'll probably be quizzing her friends for weeks trying to figure out why you never called back.

Cut away.

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It's the year of the Pig.

[Timmay 0]

She's a nut job.
Just hope you don't have a bunny...

[Guest]

[movie fx sound of airplane augering in] - BOOOOM....

That one went down in flames...

d00d, thou steppest upon thine own dick.

Whenest thou telleth a joke, thou should waiteth for the reaction, as opposed to soliciting one.

If it went as thou sayest it did, thou in as much asketh her for her opinion of the joke, and kind of implyeth that there was something wrong with her if she didn't get it.

Oops...

mh

"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

[MarkR 0]

But then again... maybe she was just too smart for your joke?

Or maybe it's just to test your self-confidence to see how you react when being criticized.

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There obviously won't be a third date.

Says who? By not calling her again you'll just confirm what she said.

»Somewhere between the lies and truths borderlines get shady.
Somewhere between the yesses and nos you can find the maybe.«

[tigra 0]

The joke is cute, but she may have a point about your timing. You turned her special memory of her trip to Vienna into a corny joke and she called you out on it. I'd chalk it up to "she's just not that into you" and leave it at that. If she was a little interested, even if she was irritated by your story, she probably wouldn't have said anything. At the very least, she wouldnt have gone into the whole "need to be the center of attention" psych speak. I vote for she *might* be right but she was definitely trying to torpedo the date.

[cocheese 0]

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The joke was fine, but I think you should have left out this part:

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He smiles, a genuine smile that said "I hope that somehow my corny joke made your night better."

What is wrong with smiling after a joke ? Is this why you never know when i'm joking or playing ? Who's side are you on ? the girl's ? If women want a guy who is funny , then they have to put up with an occassional bad joke or risky comedy. Sheesh.

[unformed 0]

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The joke was fine, but I think you should have left out this part:

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He smiles, a genuine smile that said "I hope that somehow my corny joke made your night better."

What is wrong with smiling after a joke ? Is this why you never know when i'm joking or playing ? Who's side are you on ? the girl's ? If women want a guy who is funny , then they have to put up with an occassional bad joke or risky comedy. Sheesh.

not the smiling part, but the part that said "I hope my corny joke..." .... one, there wasn't aything that said her night was bad, and two, no need to expand on it in case she didn't think it was funny....

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[skymama 37]

The smile is fine, it's the comment that he said.

She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

[StreetScooby 5]

I thought the joke was pretty funny. Made me laugh.

You're call as to what to do.
Here's some options analysis:

1) Call her back
a) She accepts another date. Be prepared to cut away, even in mid date.
b) She doesn't. How do you deal with rejection?

2) Don't call her back
And don't think about it again.

We are all engines of karma

[ladyskydiver 0]

I would have laughed.

Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile.

[countzero 7]

in comedy timing is everything. and from the flow of your story it looks like your's didn't work.

if you're going to follow someone's serious story with a joke topical to the previous story i find it better to say, speaking of ... i got one for you.

that way you set it up as a joke. so they won't get surprised and possibly upset by an unexpected punchline in the middle of what they think to be a serious conversation.

blue skies!

diamonds are a dawgs best friend

[aprilcat 0]

I think she was just looking for a fight. This is a little above and beyond a reaction to a corny joke:

"She replies with "That was a joke? You know, people who have to tell corny jokes like that usually need to be the center of attention, and are unable to simply be, and I kind of feel like it was insulting to my story and for my memory of Vienna for you to counter by telling a joke like that. I really feel like jokes like that are insulting to the people forced to listen to them."

Thats a challenge. I'm surprised she didn't pull out a sword (or maybe she DID). She obviously gleaned SO much history from 18th century Vienna, that the BEST she could finish her story with is that she walked down the same streets as Mozart and Beethoven? If there was a fight to be had, it would have been there. 'Is that all you got OUT of that trip?' In a way, I think thats what you were saying. Her comment in the first place was nostalgic and simplistic and you took that away from her by making it even MORE simplistic (and funny).

She could have easily said 'I didn't think it was funny' and left it at that. She didn't have to analyze you that strongly. This is the girl that will tear you, your friends, your family, your tv shows, your SKYDIVING apart at every turn. If you're ready for that...call her and try again.

This is what guys don't get. Sometimes we are OKAY with you not calling back. Had I said that to a man he'd be a fool to call me back and I'd be a fool to be more than polite on the phone and go for another date.

Drop it~~April

Camelot II, the Electric Boogaloo!

[JohnMitchell 16]

If a woman is really into you, they will smile and laugh at anything you say. If they are not into you, Eddie Murphy on his best day could not raise a chuckle. You could try one more date to see if something clicks, but I would definitely play it cool until you see which way the wind is blowing.

She sounds like someone I would not be interested in. Keep us posted on what happens. I'll grab some popcorn.

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[Michele 1]

Like AprilCat said (and dead on, by the way), she's not looking to have a relationship...she's looking to find fault. And someone who does that self-righteously during a second date is someone who I wouldn't date a third time.

I thought the joke was corny, and it would've elicited a groan and giggle from me...and then we'd've gone on to the next thing. But to think that it was a personal attack on herself? Man, talk about insecurity. And to follow it up with a defensive shredding of who you are (and how can she know, anyway, in a date and a half??) and your motives is nothing short of one of the biggest red flags around.

More fish in the sea...go fishing...

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[rhys 0]

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I would have laughed. Fuck her.

She's a stiff you need somone that would at least laugh at that joke, it was very witty!

so yeah,

Fuck Her!

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[airtwardo 7]

He's amazed, because the first date seemed really, really fun. They seemed to click.

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"He" seemed to think they really clicked...

"She" got another nice meal without givin' up any sugar!

"She" was just lookin' for a way to close the door and if that cute story was all she could come up with..."He's" lucky the only loss of investment was dinner and cab fare.

If "She" really thought they clicked, that little story would have been overlooked...

...I mean, if 'She" got all pissy about THAT, just imagine the reaction when she found the blow-up sheep in "His" bedroom?!

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~