micro 0 #76 June 5, 2006 for those who voted sometimes or never, shame on you! i haven't read the whole thread, but i can't think of any legit. situation where not wearing your seat belt would be beneficial. imagine skydiving w/o your cheststrap done. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #77 June 5, 2006 Quote Quote Don't forget, when you put the shoulder strap between your boobies, it makes them look perkier. You know this from personal experience? Get a room you two! Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydemon2 0 #78 June 5, 2006 I hate the fact that they tell you to wear it, but when I kissed a windshield I realized it might not be a bad idea to wear them, but it should not be regulated it should be free choice.Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clean to the bone! I like to start my day off with a little Ray of Soulshine™!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #79 June 5, 2006 Quote Yes, your ribs will crack at sufficient speed and it will leave an impressive bruise from shoulder to hip! I was stopped, rear-ended by a truck doing about 35-40 mph, 3 cracked ribs and chest pains for weeks when breathing... But better than breaking your face on the steering wheel or flying through the windshield. I was thinking about this today. I have air bags (both sides). The shoulder strap didn't bother me too much (but kinda did) riding shot gun. Driving today, however, was another story. The shoulder strap was REALLY annoying b/c it rubbed the hell out of my clavicle bone---seriously I have a red mark. And, I always check my mirror but ALSO look before changing lanes and when I'd look to my left the damn strap would hit my cheek. I haven't researched the ramifications for improper seat belt usage, but I eventually put the shoulder strap under my arm to stay out of my way. Then, I wondered if that would be worse in an accident than not wearing the shoulder strap portion all together. I'll keep wearing the lap part---but when I'm driving I'm not sold on the shoulder strap. My hunny said they make these clips to clip the shoulder strap down further on the lap part. But, that's basically placing it in the same position as it was when I put it under my arm. Soooooo.....I don't know what I'll do. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #80 June 5, 2006 There might be a slide that lets you adjust the height of the shoulder belt; most cars have them these days. Try a couple of heights until you get one that feels better. If it feels too tight, it might be too low. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #81 June 5, 2006 Quote I was thinking about this today. I have air bags (both sides). The shoulder strap didn't bother me too much (but kinda did) riding shot gun. I haven't researched the ramifications for improper seat belt usage, but I eventually put the shoulder strap under my arm to stay out of my way. Then, I wondered if that would be worse in an accident than not wearing the shoulder strap portion all together. I'll keep wearing the lap part---but when I'm driving I'm not sold on the shoulder strap. My hunny said they make these clips to clip the shoulder strap down further on the lap part. But, that's basically placing it in the same position as it was when I put it under my arm. Soooooo.....I don't know what I'll do. Don't just wear the lap belt. When I was a teen ( a couple of years back) I lost a dear friend that had it actually cut into his abdomen to the depth of the his spine. It's hard to say that it was "down across his lap" and "correctly supporting the pelvis"... but it slid up to his abdomen and he ended up dying. Now, whether he would have died being ejected from the vehicle without it remains an unknown... but don't just wear the lap belt. (just my 0.02) (ps... I've started wearing mine a little more again, depends on who is with me. Three years ago, I never went without it... then kinda stopped. I know I "should" and I tell all my patients that they should... but .... now I'm starting again. Kinda) Karen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #82 June 5, 2006 Maybe you need a good, thick phone book. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRSKY71 0 #83 June 5, 2006 Quote *** I haven't researched the ramifications for improper seat belt usage, but I eventually put the shoulder strap under my arm to stay out of my way. Then, I wondered if that would be worse in an accident than not wearing the shoulder strap portion all together. I'll keep wearing the lap part---but when I'm driving I'm not sold on the shoulder strap. I know what you mean! I sometimes put the shoulder strap under my arm although I know that is probably a no no. I sure I'm glad I was wearing my seatbelt today, though, as there are some crazy ass mother f'ing drivers in SW Florida!!!! Character cannot be made except by a steady, long continued process. -- Phillips Brooks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #84 June 5, 2006 Quote And, I always check my mirror but ALSO look before changing lanes and when I'd look to my left the damn strap would hit my cheek. just being a bit of a devils advocate but... you may religously check before changing lanes... but what about the guy in the other car... maybe he/she doesn't... I don't necessarily wear my safety belt for the mistakes I might make but for the mistakes someone else might make as well...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #85 June 6, 2006 Quote I put mine on as a reflex of getting in a car. I feel naked without them. Whaddabout you? Same here, i just feels wierd not wearing it. Also in Oz it's illegal to drive without wearing a seatbeltYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soulshine 0 #86 June 6, 2006 I always buckle up. If I have passengers then they must buckle up as well, regardless of age or if they're sitting in the front or back. My rule is simple: buckle up or walk. Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity! ~DEVIOUS BEEF~~FGF #69~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #87 June 6, 2006 I just wear it... it has saved my life a couple times in accidents...so I always wear them... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morningdove831 0 #88 June 6, 2006 I always, always wear my seat belt, and I have ever since I can remember. My parents always enforced it and the car didn't start moving until everyone's seat belts were fastened. It's a rule I now enforce in my car. One who looks for a friend without faults will have none. -- Hasidic Saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #89 June 6, 2006 Quote just being a bit of a devils advocate but... you may religously check before changing lanes... but what about the guy in the other car... maybe he/she doesn't... I don't necessarily wear my safety belt for the mistakes I might make but for the mistakes someone else might make as well... Duh My point was when I look to the left lane the strap hits my cheek (which I hate b/c I REALLY hate anything touching/hitting my face. I don't even like turtlenecks, though I have a long neck and fashion-folks seem to think they look fabulous on me. I hate them! My hunny is the only one I let touch my face. I have this weird thing with anything else that touches it being full of germs and grodiness and I then feel the need to wash my face right away---thus, the seat-belt hitting my cheek is a ROYAL TURN-OFF!)Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #90 June 6, 2006 Wendy, I wouldn't have even known to check due to as previously mentioned, I haven't worn a seat belt in....EVER I will look for such a thing in my car today when I drivePaint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #91 June 6, 2006 Quote Maybe you need a good, thick phone book. Oh, Ha.......Ha........Ha Maybe I'll just borrow your bag of bolognaPaint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #92 June 6, 2006 From 2005 Darwin Awards: (5 January 2005, Nebraska) In September of his senior year at the University of Nebraska, 21-year-old Derek wrote an impassioned declaration of independence from seatbelts for his college newspaper. Although "intrusive and ridiculous" seatbelt laws saved 6100 lives a year, according to statistics from the U.S. Congress, Derek concluded with the statement, "If I want to be the jerk that flirts with death, I should be able to do that." Derek "was a bright young boy, a 4.0" majoring in five subjects and planning to attend law school. He was also smart enough to tutor friends in subjects he didn't even take. But good grades don't equate with common sense. Derek was returning from a holiday in San Antonio, Texas. The driver of the Ford Explorer and his front seat passenger both wore seatbelts. Only Derek was willing to buck the system, sitting without a seatbelt in the back seat because, in the words of his newspaper column, he belonged to the "die-hard group of non-wearers out there who simply do not wish to buckle up, no matter what the government does." When the SUV hit a patch of ice, slid off US 80 and rolled several times, Derek, in an involuntary display of his freedom, was thrown from the vehicle. He died at the scene. The other occupants of the SUV, slaves to the seatbelt, survived with minor injuries. Alcohol was not involved in the accident. ------------- Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #93 June 6, 2006 By the way, from looking at these stories it would appear that S.U.V. stands for Suddenly Upside-down Vehicle. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #94 June 6, 2006 I'm hoping that was a general post and not directed at me. Nowhere did I state seat-belts should or should not be law. And nowhere did I state I did not think I should wear one. I only stated that I never have. Also: Quote But good grades don't equate with common sense. They certainly don't. But your point of the boy in question "Derek" having or not having common sense is still an unknown. By the sound of it, he DID understand that not wearing a seat-belt is dangerous. Which therefore would have to mean in this instance he DOES have common sense. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RastaRicanAir 0 #95 June 6, 2006 Quote Funny no one's jumped in yet to declare: "I'd rather be thrown free than trapped and burned." (always seems to be one of those in the crowd) or "Always in the front, never in the back." I always nod at them and say: "Yeah, my Dad felt the same way, before he got thrown free and spent the next 40 years of his life paralyzed from the neck down." Then they change the subject. On the other hand, I'm also a backseat slacker.OrFunV/LocoBoca Rodriguez/Sonic Grieco/Muff Brother #4411 -"and ladies....messin with Robbie is venturing into territory you cant even imagine!-cuz Robbie is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #96 June 6, 2006 Quote I will look for such a thing in my car today when I drive Wendy, you're a genius! OK, so it took me two stop lights to figure out how the damn thing adjusts, but alas---my seat belt has a magic button that moves it up and down. Before finding said button, however, I manhandled the thing to death (b/c I could see it was meant to move, just couldn't figure out how) and almost broke it. But I didn't. It still rubs my clavicle bone---I have prominent clavicle bones--I love them and do not want them to be red I'm certain now I have an excuse to shop for some cute thingy that can velcro around my seat belt so the part that rubs is soft and comfyThis has been quite an experience. My hunny is VERY pleased with me Of course....now I need another reason for him to spank me Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #97 June 6, 2006 Quote OK, so it took me two stop lights to figure out how the damn thing adjusts, but alas---my seat belt has a magic button that moves it up and down. Before finding said button, however, I manhandled the thing to death (b/c I could see it was meant to move, just couldn't figure out how) and almost broke it. But I didn't I stumbled across the button and WALL-LA! Seat-belt adjustment completed Ok.... I have to ask.... how many cars did you run off the road fiddling with it? (just cause you said it took you two stoplights to figure it out.... get it?) ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #98 June 6, 2006 I meant two stop lights as in I waited until coming to a stop before attempting to figure it out. I could have done this in my driveway, but I forgot As soon as I looked to my left again before changing lanes, I rememberd "This sucks" and proceeded to play with it at the next stop lightPaint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #99 June 6, 2006 Up until now I didn't know single point attachment seat belt harnesses were so complicated. Thanks for clearing that up.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #100 June 6, 2006 Quote I meant two stop lights as in I waited until coming to a stop before attempting to figure it out. I could have done this in my driveway, but I forgot As soon as I looked to my left again before changing lanes, I rememberd "This sucks" and proceeded to play with it at the next stop light I figured.... just having fun... ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites