CSpenceFLY 1 #1 June 8, 2006 I know a ton of people that don't visit DZ.com.Well atleast they don't post,some may lurk.I think it is a great tool not only for advertising events but also exchange ideas,ask questions,Blah,Blah,Blah.Do you ever mention DZ.com to people at your DZ,newbies or experianced jumpers. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McBeth 0 #2 June 8, 2006 This last weekend actually a bunch of were discussing it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #3 June 8, 2006 yeah, but almost ALL jumpers at my new "home" dz are pretty down on dz.com. they just see it as a place where most people post more than they skydive... ah well. to each his own. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gravityizsexy 0 #4 June 8, 2006 QuoteI know a ton of people that don't visit DZ.com.Well atleast they don't post,some may lurk.I think it is a great tool not only for advertising events but also exchange ideas,ask questions,Blah,Blah,Blah.Do you ever mention DZ.com to people at your DZ,newbies or experianced jumpers. . Rule #1 of DZ.com - "You do NOT TALK! about DZ.com" Rule #2 of DZ.com - "You do NOT TALK! about DZ.com" Rule #3 of DZ.com - "YOU DO NOT TALK! about DZ.com" "'Someday is not a day in my week'" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #5 June 8, 2006 Yes, and I tell the new students, don't believe everything you read on the internet. If you have a question, any of the instructors at the dz will be able to help you. jBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #6 June 8, 2006 some of the instructors at the dz aren't fans of dz.com but many of the people at my dz actually frequent dz.com. I don't exactly "talk" about it though...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teamjenn1 0 #7 June 8, 2006 How do you think I got on here? *********************************** "His dick is ringing!" Female Skydiver "Well...answer it!!!" Male Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #8 June 8, 2006 yes. usually about the incidents.We talk about them and try to learn from themMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #9 June 8, 2006 I mostly talk about it with people I already know post here, or they've mentioned they have seen me post. I've told a few newbies looking for used gear to check the classifieds."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #10 June 8, 2006 Generally its looked at as a place where 20 jump wonders are giving other 20 jump wonders advice. Its frequently laughed at because of this.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #11 June 8, 2006 What happens on DZ.Com stays at DZ.Com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dougiefresh 0 #12 June 8, 2006 QuoteGenerally its looked at as a place where 20 jump wonders are giving other 20 jump wonders advice. Its frequently laughed at because of this. Hey man, be careful under that Sabre2 170 loaded at .8! You don't have enough experience to blah blah somebody please shoot me in the faceHuman beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. --Douglas Adams Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gravityizsexy 0 #13 June 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteGenerally its looked at as a place where 20 jump wonders are giving other 20 jump wonders advice. Its frequently laughed at because of this. Hey man, be careful under that Sabre2 170 loaded at .8! You don't have enough experience to blah blah somebody please shoot me in the face lol "'Someday is not a day in my week'" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #14 June 8, 2006 QuoteGenerally its looked at as a place where 20 jump wonders are giving other 20 jump wonders advice. Its frequently laughed at because of this.In defense of the skydiving forums, there is usually a Sticky at the top of each thread list explaining the types of advice given."No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #15 June 8, 2006 QuoteGenerally its looked at as a place where 20 jump wonders are giving other 20 jump wonders advice. Its frequently laughed at because of this. What he said. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #16 June 8, 2006 QuoteGenerally its looked at as a place where 20 jump wonders are giving other 20 jump wonders advice. Its frequently laughed at because of this. Agreed. There are very few people on here who should either be listened to or are qualified to give advice. I tend to stay here in the joke forums because too many idiots have taken over the topical forums and try giving advice when they have no business opening their mouths, and should be opening their ears instead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaiziel 0 #17 June 8, 2006 Any particular thing will have at least one group of supporters and one group of non-supporters. Fact is, it's a place for people who skydive to interact with other people who skydive, when they aren't out skydiving. There isn't much bad you can say about it as being a forum. The only real point of division I can see is the combination of advice/ideas from many different experience levels being shared with people of many different experience levels. It's a valid and very rational point for people to use instructors who know the person's capabilities in person when it comes to consulting for information and instruction on various things related to them and skydiving. It's a forum for sharing ideas, not a training/instructional resource. So inherently, you have people that appreciate it for what it is, and respect its boundaries and limitations as an internet message board. But there are people on the outside of any message board, or even the internet for that matter, that see it as a potential hazard to newbies or anyone who isn't in a position to be listening to relatively anonymous sources about what they should and shouldn't do. Neither party is at fault, they just have different perspectives. More of what goes on here is bullshitting (not in a negative connotation) and idea sharing. You don't really have people (very often) trying to educate someone when they shouldn't be. (EDIT: I should point out that I just don't see it very often. But it's more because I consider myself to have a proper attitude and perspective about the place. Plus I'm in no position to call someone out for "teaching.") But there are exceptions and when you have a contrary perspective about the board, the exceptions are all they will see. Nothing wrong with that per say, but it doesn't mean the website is bad. It's not a surprise that there are people who could care less about DZ.com. Maybe internet socialization isn't their thing. No harm no foul. The only burden of responsibility is the forum users to refrain from doing things which are potentially damaging for good reason. I would feel awkward having a conversation with someone, perhaps bringing up DZ.com, and having some trite and unfounded comment made about it, if I wasn't doing something wrong like quoting it as the bible. So I can see why people wouldn't bring up the DZ.com goings-on at their respective DZ. You're gonna find people who don't like something you do, because they don't understand it or had a negative experience with it. Pick and choose your battles.---------------------------------------- 6.8% - Almost there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #18 June 8, 2006 so are you saying that experienced people don't give advice? (I'm curious, not attacking. I don't read the discipline forums much)My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #19 June 8, 2006 I mention it to every one of our students. I tell them it's a fantastic source for the answers to those questions they might not have thought of asking on the DZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #20 June 8, 2006 Quoteso are you saying that experienced people don't give advice? (I'm curious, not attacking. I don't read the discipline forums much) Oh - so now you want to attack Phree! Fine - I thought we were friends - but - I see how it is.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #21 June 8, 2006 lol. well its about time you got the hint. GEEZ!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydemon2 0 #22 June 8, 2006 QuoteI know a ton of people that don't visit DZ.com.Well atleast they don't post,some may lurk.I think it is a great tool not only for advertising events but also exchange ideas,ask questions,Blah,Blah,Blah.Do you ever mention DZ.com to people at your DZ,newbies or experianced jumpers. . I heard someone refering to it as dorkzone..... thought that was pretty funny!!! Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clean to the bone! I like to start my day off with a little Ray of Soulshine™!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apollard24 0 #23 June 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteI know a ton of people that don't visit DZ.com.Well atleast they don't post,some may lurk.I think it is a great tool not only for advertising events but also exchange ideas,ask questions,Blah,Blah,Blah.Do you ever mention DZ.com to people at your DZ,newbies or experianced jumpers. . I heard someone refering to it as dorkzone..... thought that was pretty funny!!! That makes me sad...Breathe out so I can breathe you in... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaiziel 0 #24 June 8, 2006 Bleh. After my senior year in high school, over the summer I started playing Dance Dance Revolution at the mall with a friend of mine (but only AFTER getting half-way decent by playing at home on his uber-expensive hard pads with the computer emulator program). Now if you have been by any arcade in the past few years you know what Dance Dance Revolution is or you've at least seen it. It's the little game where people stomp on the 4 arrows with the beat to a song according to what the game tells them. It widely seen one of two ways by people who don't play: 1. "I don't quite understand the game, but it's intriguing enough to make me stop and watch someone for a song or two" and 2. "That's totally fucking gay." If you play, and you're good, you like people from the first group because it makes you feel like you're doing well enough to draw a crowd. If you play and there are people from group 2 around, you're just waiting for one of them to jump on the pad like and start jumping around like an idiot so you can shove them off and tell them to fuck off. It's a social game, so if there are other players around, they will take care of that for you. My point being... Just because people think it's stupid doesn't make the activity or anyone who participates stupid. The outsiders just don't get it. Willful ignorance makes people dumb, and it's contagious.---------------------------------------- 6.8% - Almost there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #25 June 8, 2006 so, I think what you're saying is that you just wanna dance, right? (quote from that movie with all the stoners. LOL)My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites