mjosparky 4 #51 March 15, 2005 QuoteSomehow though, at about 25 years old and about 500 jumps, my decision making changed, and the worst I've had since then is a nose bleed or a skinned knee. As I have said before, Pain is an excellent teacher. The greater the pain, the fewer repetitions are required. With some people the pain has to be theirs, they can’t learn from seeing some else in pain. QuoteNo one who knows they will die skydiving will continue to skydive unless they want to die. Those answering "Yes" to your poll are either suicidal, have a death wish, or are simply liars. That’s my read on it. They are lying to themselves or trying to impress someone. Anyone that "knows" they are going to die if they continue to jump and do continue are not rapped very tight and should quit. They are a hazard. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linny 1 #52 March 15, 2005 This is a trick question right? We die when we die... and that's how we're SUPPOSED to die. There are no accidents as far as I'm concerned. I make the choices that feel right to me in my life whether I can die from them or not..... cause that's all the plan of life. If I KNEW for certain I'd die skydiving then I'd definitely keep jumping......... if skydiving doesn't kill me, eventually something will. It's inevitable. Why dodge it? oh and BTW..... CanuckinUSA...... I love your answer. Right on dude Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #53 March 15, 2005 QuoteWe die when we die... and that's how we're SUPPOSED to die. There are no accidents as far as I'm concerned. Interesting point of view - even though we know it's incorrect. Funny how since the advent of modern medicine, we all die later than we used to. Do you think that if GWB fired the secret service - everyone who shot at him would suddenly miss? If everyone stopped using airbags, seatbelts, helmets, AAD's that the road and skydiving death tolls would not climb? If troops were poorly trained or not trained at all the same number would die in combat against a trained enemy? The "when it's your time, it's your time" theory is foolishly comforting. It means we never have to change our lifestyle. In truth, we should be aware of what we eat and how much we exercise - or we risk cardiac arrest. We should have protected sex or stick with one HIV neg monogamous partner, we should practice our reserve drills, be ready for aircraft emergencies and fly disiplined traffic paterns. But sadly, many of us don't because "that's how we're SUPPOSED to die. There are no accidents" The only fate is the fate we make for ourselves. If destiny then hands us a curve ball - well, that's life. Everything else is Darwin. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #54 March 15, 2005 Yes I would still jump. Because if you didn't jump you'd still die. The only way to not die is not to live... Big paradox. We have a chance to live a beautiful passion, which has its risks. But nothing is riskier than living. Hope to meet you this weekend in Perris.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdweller 0 #55 March 15, 2005 If I knew I was Going to die skydiving. I would wait till my 100 th birthday to jump again------------------------------------------------------ "From the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?" C. Montgomery Burns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #56 March 15, 2005 No way would I continue. For one thing, I owe it to my kids not to do something that is certain to leave them motherless. In addition, there are so many things that bring me joy in life. I want to be able to have as many experiences that I can. Places to go, people to see, things to do and all that. I love skydiving and the people involved in it, but I will still have a very full life if I ever need to leave the sport.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #57 March 15, 2005 QuoteQuoteWe die when we die... and that's how we're SUPPOSED to die. There are no accidents as far as I'm concerned. Interesting point of view - even though we know it's incorrect. Funny how since the advent of modern medicine, we all die later than we used to. Do you think that if GWB fired the secret service - everyone who shot at him would suddenly miss? If everyone stopped using airbags, seatbelts, helmets, AAD's that the road and skydiving death tolls would not climb? If troops were poorly trained or not trained at all the same number would die in combat against a trained enemy? The "when it's your time, it's your time" theory is foolishly comforting. It means we never have to change our lifestyle. In truth, we should be aware of what we eat and how much we exercise - or we risk cardiac arrest. We should have protected sex or stick with one HIV neg monogamous partner, we should practice our reserve drills, be ready for aircraft emergencies and fly disiplined traffic paterns. But sadly, many of us don't because "that's how we're SUPPOSED to die. There are no accidents" The only fate is the fate we make for ourselves. If destiny then hands us a curve ball - well, that's life. Everything else is Darwin. t Good points... and I see the logic of those statements (especially having seen those that would it not be for modern medicine would be gone) but I still believe that the time we have here is set... there is a "time for death"...., the life we live while here is what we make. Maybe thats just how I deal with seeing those pass, both personally and professionally... or maybe thats just more my current belief set on life, death and immortality.... but I still feel that I would probably continue jumping and living the life as full as possible.... because if I didn't die from skydiving, then what? my genes would indicate that it may be complications from diabetes... so a stroke with years in the nursing home/rehab? heart attack and hypertensive crisis? or would it be something like ovarian cancer? or just random? car accident? or falling down steps? I will die.... but I want to live. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #58 March 15, 2005 i've heard that before and it's a little more foolish now than the first time i heard it. and how can you say that one person's belief system is incorrect? did you get some information that the rest of us missed? if so, please share it with the rest of us. as for me, yes i would continue. i was told before in a batallion formation that 75% of us would not be coming home. i was scared for a little while, but i got over that. and you know what? not a single casualty in the whole group. i work in one of the most dangerous occupations in this country, but it pays good and i am really careful. i just got out of the military after two wars, and it was an airborne unit. if i were told that i was going to die skydiving, i would continue to do it, and do it safely just to prove death wrong. i've heard that she gets angry when she gets cheated._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #59 March 15, 2005 Quoteif so, please share it with the rest of us. Speakers corner? tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #60 March 15, 2005 i wasn't trying to start anything. the religion discussions are the worst to get into, so i'd rather not go there. all religion basically boils down to beleifs(sp), anyway. _________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #61 March 15, 2005 I think it's honourable to die doing something that you love. I've accepted that this sport could take my life and i'd rather it be that way than a bank robbery gone wrong, the no 56 bus or some drunk driver on a Friday night. The higher power up there (be he God, Allah, Buddha or whoever) has a plan for me and when he calls me i'm going either way. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
321seeya 0 #62 March 15, 2005 I want to die skydiving...Just not anytime soon, and not doing anything stupid. Something like having a heart attck while screwing an 18 year old student while Im 92....In the air...Yeah...That'll do it! BASE 3:16 - Even if you are about to land on a cop - DONT FORGET TO FLARE! Free the soul -- DJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #63 March 15, 2005 I voted yes. Can I change my vote? My little granddaughter gave me a hug before she went to bed last night after I voted. I felt a little selfish.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #64 March 15, 2005 QuoteThe only way to not die is not to live.... Beautifully put. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mirage63 0 #65 March 15, 2005 I stop so fast if you were walking behind me we'd run into each other! I don't skydive to "cheat death" half the non-jumpers of the world believe that. I love it, I love the people BUT if I could make it perfectly safe I would. I agree with another poster.....some of the folks here are just talking big...."oh I'd keep skydiving"...right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linny 1 #66 March 15, 2005 QuoteQuoteWe die when we die... and that's how we're SUPPOSED to die. There are no accidents as far as I'm concerned. Interesting point of view - even though we know it's incorrect. Funny how since the advent of modern medicine, we all die later than we used to. Do you think that if GWB fired the secret service - everyone who shot at him would suddenly miss? If everyone stopped using airbags, seatbelts, helmets, AAD's that the road and skydiving death tolls would not climb? If troops were poorly trained or not trained at all the same number would die in combat against a trained enemy? The "when it's your time, it's your time" theory is foolishly comforting. It means we never have to change our lifestyle. In truth, we should be aware of what we eat and how much we exercise - or we risk cardiac arrest. We should have protected sex or stick with one HIV neg monogamous partner, we should practice our reserve drills, be ready for aircraft emergencies and fly disiplined traffic paterns. But sadly, many of us don't because "that's how we're SUPPOSED to die. There are no accidents" The only fate is the fate we make for ourselves. If destiny then hands us a curve ball - well, that's life. Everything else is Darwin. t ********** You actually just proved my point. Thanks. We die when we die because of our actions and choices..... old, young, protected, unprotected, ready or not. It is what it is. We make the choices we make and that ultimately leads us to a demise in one way or other... good or bad. safe or unsafe. it's all a matter of concepts. Nothing is good or bad. It's all perfect. Jump now. You never know when you'll die. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mixoligist 0 #67 March 15, 2005 I treat EVERY jump as the one that is going to kill me................................... Better you than me .................................. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #68 March 15, 2005 Yes, I would. If I had kids, I probably wouldn't. However, if I had kids, I don't know if I'd even jump anymore.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #69 March 15, 2005 Nope. There's a difference between a possibliity and a certainty. I'm willing to accept the possibility. A certainty... no. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plowdirt 0 #70 March 15, 2005 Right now theres a 52% yes to a 42% no. Me on the other hand, I have a family, but my life is my own I live it the way I choose. Always did always will, because the day your card gets pulled where ever you may be, thats where your gonna die. honestly if it does happen skydiving I would have it no other way. If your gonna die make sure it's doing something you love to do. Best part about it is I will still have one more jump in me, and I leave it up to you, my friends, to send me off to great blue sky forever. Be safe out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LawnDart21 0 #71 March 15, 2005 I'd quit in a New York minute. Life holds way too many other mysteries to be discovered. Skydiving is not the "Holy Grail" or "The Meaning of Life". I would die for my freedom, my religion, my wife & my family. Not for a hobby, regardless of how much I love doing it. -- My other ride is a RESERVE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #72 March 15, 2005 QuoteI think it's honourable to die doing something that you love. There is not honor in dying, just death. And death is permanent. Some of the people here need a reality check. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #73 March 15, 2005 To everyone answering yes: Let's change the question a little bit... If you KNEW that the NEXT jump you made was for SURE going to kill you, you'd still do it? I'm not really understanding why? Skydiving is the best thing that has ever happend to me, but I don't want to die for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #74 March 15, 2005 QuoteIf you KNEW that the NEXT jump you made was for SURE going to kill you, you'd still do it? No, I would not jump. Certain death with uncertain timing is one thing....There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #75 March 15, 2005 I most probably would still jump. We all will die at some point. I would actually like to know when I die too (can we work this out as a package deal with the oracle who fortold that skydiving would do it? lol). This way, no need to save as much cash to live to be 90! lolRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
