AAD ?

[usmc03 0]

I'm new to the sport and I just purchased my first rig. My Rigger told me to only buy a Cypress, but they are hard to come by. Is there any difference between the only 3 i know of, Argus, Virgil and Cypress??
Chad

[Andy_Copland 0]

Just curious, how new?

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[indyz 1]

By hard to come by, do you mean you are only considering used equipment? Because when I ordered a new Cypres last month, I had it in 5 days (and I could have had it overnighted, if I was in a hurry).

[usmc03 0]

50 jumps and yes I have purchased used equip.

[bob.dino 1]

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My Rigger told me to only buy a Cypress, but they are hard to come by.

New, they're easy to come by.

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Is there any difference between the only 3 i know of, Argus, Virgil and Cypress?

The Cypres & Cypres2 have been around significantly longer than the Vigil and Argus. Therefore they're more likely to have the bugs worked out, making them more reliable in more situations.

[Broke 0]

Also make sure the rig you have can "Accept" the type of AAD. In other words make sure the manufacturer will allow what brands of AAD.

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No problem fitting a Vigil in your Jav.

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[UDSkyJunkie 0]

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My Rigger told me to only buy a Cypress, but they are hard to come by.

While I personally choose only to buy the Cypres, and I RECOMMEND the Cypres over Vigil and Argus to others, I think "only buy a Cypres" is too strong.

Cypress is much more established... as said, with 12+ years and tens of thousands of units in the field, a LOT of bugs have been worked out. Vigil and Argus use essentially the same technology, but have only been out for a few years and have very little field data yet. The result is they are having more misfires (firing when it shouldn't), although to date I haven't heard of a failure (NOT firing when it should) on either Vigil or Argus.

I think the Cypres has a better maintenance program (which is to say, has one at all), although I admit the Vigil is built more robustly.

I don't claim to know much about the Argus, as it's not popular in my region.

Cypres's (cypri???) should not be hard to come by... I would think actually due to their numbers they are much easier to find use than the other brands, and due to their relative age should be available cheaper (although the 12 year max life must be paid attention).

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[gjhdiver 0]

We're close to another AAD wars thread I suspect. I use the Argus, I'm very pleased with it.

All AADs work more or less within their posted parameters.

All AADs have misfires occaisionally for varying reasons. There's no such thing as a 100% reliable AAD. (There's no such thing as a 100% reliable anything).

Read up on each unit, and choose one that meets your criteria and budget and that you feel comfortable with.

Then get an Argus (Well they do sponsor me).

[skydivepete 0]

I think the Cypres has a better maintenance program (which is to say, has one at all), although I admit the Vigil is built more robustly.***

From the Argus website FAQ:
Maintenance
Does the Argus require any maintenance?
The Argus requires a mandatory check-up each four years. This functional check-up can be performed by a certified service center near you.

[UDSkyJunkie 0]

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From the Argus website FAQ:
Maintenance
Does the Argus require any maintenance?
The Argus requires a mandatory check-up each four years. This functional check-up can be performed by a certified service center near you.

I glanced through those FAQ's, and I find some things I like about the Argus:

- use of standard lithium batteries. I've never understood why Airtec insists on using batteries that cost $85.
- replacement cutters are free if you file a report... not that I would ever intend to take advantage of that, but cutters are normally $200+.
- waterproofness is better than Cypres2. no filter to be replaced.

I'm still a conservative Cypres snob, and will allow others to test-jump the Argus for awhile, but I may consider it in the future. The vigil is a good product, and my DZ uses it in all their gear, but I will personally not purchase it as I think the lack of a 4-year check is a mistake.

"Some people follow their dreams, others hunt them down and beat them mercilessly into submission."

[usmc03 0]

Thank you all for your imput, I just bought a Cypress.

Chad

[siddacious 0]

I got a Argus (thanks Gareth!) and love it. the build quality inspires confidence despite the fact that it is relatively new to the market, and it's quite polite to boot (it says "hello" and "bye bye"!).

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[phoenixlpr 0]

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and it's quite polite to boot (it says "hello" and "bye bye"!).

Sure, That seems really important in case of an AAD.