CSpenceFLY 1 #1 May 7, 2006 I had a conversation today with a friend about the ultimate form of respect and in the same day watch fellow jumpers in an equally ultimate act of disrespect.Don't ask for details and those involved don't send PMs.I'm completely disheartened right now. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRYANGOESBOOM 0 #2 May 7, 2006 That sucks hope things get better bro Not only will you look better, feel better, and fuck better; you'll have significantly increased your life expectancy. --Douva Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pincheck 0 #3 May 7, 2006 Look chris you think we are keeping Lee this side of the pond think again we will deport his sorry ASS back to you Brandy on the other hand can stay as long as she wants Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #4 May 7, 2006 Drama, drama, drama....what's up, Chris?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #5 May 7, 2006 Good guess Beezy but no. The first I refer to was talking someone about recovering the bodies of some downed airmen so they could be sent home to their families.The second was watching a group of people go into the pack mentality and go through the hanger and fuck with peoples stuff. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #6 May 7, 2006 QuoteThe first I refer to was talking someone about recovering the bodies of some downed airmen so they could be sent home to their families. My cousin's a Pararescue Jumper... he's got himself a good job... QuoteThe second was watching a group of people go into the pack mentality and go through the hanger and fuck with peoples stuff. that is NOT cool... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpjunkie2004 0 #7 May 7, 2006 Reading your post puts my personal drama in perspective. Sorry Jump, Land, Pack, Repeat... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
divnswoop 0 #8 May 8, 2006 Quotesame day watch fellow jumpers in an equally ultimate act of disrespect. . What? self-centered, non-respecting skydivers? unheard of!!! Where'd this happen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #9 May 8, 2006 It doesn't matter where it happened.It's a problem we all have wherever you jump.Touching someone elses gear without being asked by the owner of the gear is a no no.I don't care how funny you think it is.And before anyone tells me to lighten up,how would you like it if someone you know goes in the morning after you were fucking with their gear and there were a dozen people that saw you touching it.I know there is funny stuff,like messing up a pack job that is ready to go in the bag but what I'm talking about is beyond that.And while we are talking about respect,what the hell is so hard about going to the trash can with an empty beer bottle on the way to get the next one?If your mama don't work at your DZ clean up after your damn self.Do you think having to pay someone to cleanup after your slack ass helps or hurts the cost of a lift ticket??? I know I am going to catch shit about this thread but since when has that stopped me.There are people at DZs all over that need to either some some maturity or some self restraint. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #10 May 8, 2006 Proud of you for standing up and saying something, Spence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #11 May 8, 2006 QuoteI know there is funny stuff,like messing up a pack job that is ready to go in the bag Call me whatever you will... but that ain't funny either.... I have never jumped anywhere with anyone with that kind of sense of humor... no thanks! ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancesWClouds 0 #12 May 8, 2006 Re: beer bottles Mike Igo from Moss Point had a great idea when his DZ was trashed from the night before. No jumpy jumpy until everything's cleaned up!!! I've never seen so many hung over skydivers move so quickly. Jest my 2¢. ° Dances Muff Brother #2169 "You can take the girl out of the sky, but not the sky out of the girl!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sickandtwisted 0 #13 May 8, 2006 QuoteThe second was watching a group of people go into the pack mentality and go through the hanger and fuck with peoples stuff. I talked to a couple of the perpetrators. They claimed they were teaching the person a lesson (not to leave gear out overnight.) But my point was that there are better ways to make that point. I.E. pack the parachute as if you were going to jump it place it on the gear rack & do not tell the owner who packed it. Then they will have to unpack before re-packing. I agree with you. It was poor judgment by a group of people who thought they were being funny.Skymama stalker #69!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #14 May 8, 2006 The actual lesson they taught her is that she can't trust her friends. Sounds like a joke that was taken a bit too far. Hope it doesn't happen again.. nobody was hurt so it'll be alright this time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #15 May 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteThe second was watching a group of people go into the pack mentality and go through the hanger and fuck with peoples stuff. I talked to a couple of the perpetrators. They claimed they were teaching the person a lesson (not to leave gear out overnight.) But my point was that there are better ways to make that point. I.E. pack the parachute as if you were going to jump it place it on the gear rack & do not tell the owner who packed it. Then they will have to unpack before re-packing. I agree with you. It was poor judgment by a group of people who thought they were being funny. Why these days is it not ok to leave your gear overnight? And if we do, why should we be taught a lesson. I know there are thieving pricks out there etc etc etc But, isn't it up to the DZO to determine if gear should be packed up overnight rather than some individuals. It may of been a joke but to be honest, if i see anyone messing with my gear. They will be getting a smack to the face. Sorry, but when it comes to gear. It's pretty serious. As for the beer bottles. Just clean up after yourself spencehttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #16 May 8, 2006 Quote... I know I am going to catch shit... Not from me. You know that is one of my pet peeves also. And the trash? Jeez, a bunch of asshats, pure and simple, yes.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #17 May 8, 2006 QuoteQuote... I know I am going to catch shit... Not from me. You know that is one of my pet peeves also. And the trash? Jeez, a bunch of asshats, pure and simple, yes. Well at least they didn't . . . like . . . burn a car or something.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #18 May 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteThe second was watching a group of people go into the pack mentality and go through the hanger and fuck with peoples stuff. I talked to a couple of the perpetrators. They claimed they were teaching the person a lesson (not to leave gear out overnight.) But my point was that there are better ways to make that point. I.E. pack the parachute as if you were going to jump it place it on the gear rack & do not tell the owner who packed it. Then they will have to unpack before re-packing. I agree with you. It was poor judgment by a group of people who should know better then to screw with someones gear(fixed it for you). How do I get the job of lesson giver?I think I could have fun with that for a week or two. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #19 May 8, 2006 Oh and I remember a time not so long ago when I would leave all of my gear,camera gear included,in the hanger and go home for the night.Now that we have people giving reasons,were the rigs in the way?Were they hampering the party activities?Not a single one of those people would appreciate being "taught a lesson" by having their gear fucked with. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #20 May 8, 2006 Sounds like you are one of those who condone screwing with somebody else's gear...not good. What? You want it moved or something? Ask/Tell the owner to move it....then ya'll can duke it out if you want but even in the end, only the owner touches it. Only exception would possibly be the DZO.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
namgrunt 0 #21 May 8, 2006 just 1 word COMPUTER(laptop) you touch someones gear you will suffer the slings and arrows ..NOT COOL..NOT FUNNY too much stuff has come up missing to take the chance of being confused with a thief. ..59 YEARS,OVERWEIGHT,BALDIND,X-GRUNT LAST MIL. JUMP VIET-NAM(QUAN-TRI) www.dzmemories.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sickandtwisted 0 #22 May 8, 2006 QuoteSounds like you are one of those who condone screwing with somebody else's gear...not good. What? You want it moved or something? Ask/Tell the owner to move it....then ya'll can duke it out if you want but even in the end, only the owner touches it. Only exception would possibly be the DZO. Absolutely not. I am the type of person that would pack the rig, set it on the gear rack & tell the person that I packed for them. All I would expect in return is a thank you & for them to watch out for my gear in the future. Maybe a hug as well (she's a hottie). I watch out for other peoples gear because I'm the S&TA. I was asleep when the offense happened.Skymama stalker #69!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #23 May 8, 2006 That doesn't make sense...why go through all that trouble and create potential hard feelings when you should just tell the owner to move it in the first place? You assume that anyone would be comfortable with you handling their stuff...why? Because you are an S&TA? 1. You pack someone's rig unasked? No way. S&TA or King of the Country. No. 2. You put a rig somewhere and have the owner looking all over for it because you got tied up somewhere and didn't tell him? No way. 3. ...... screw it...you're not listening anyway...My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sickandtwisted 0 #24 May 8, 2006 QuoteYou assume that anyone would be comfortable with you handling their stuff...why? Because you are an S&TA? No. Because I have packed for her in the past, took her on her first skydive, & taught her how to pack. I wouldn't just pack for anyone. I would normally just ask the person to secure their gear. Because I am an S&TA I feel responsible for the safety of everyone & that includes looking out for their gear. Why am I defending myself. I was saying that I thought that it was wrong to mess with someones gear.Skymama stalker #69!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #25 May 8, 2006 I'm with you on this Rich.But I think the point to be made here is the gear was not in anyones way.It should not have been touched.I hope these folks will go to the owners and apologize.Oh and Rich,Someone did what you said to one rig.They put all the rubber bands that had been cut off the D-bag back on and packed the rig. There has to be a line somewhere.The experienced jumpers show the new jumpers what is alright.If this is alright now who is to say that the next guy might think it is funny to screw with someones cut away cables or stuff a hacky up in the pocket or maybe someone pisses someone off and you pull their cut away during a skydive.There has to be a line somewhere and I draw it at screwing with someones gear. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
