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how many of you are teachers?

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As a first year teacher, you'll probably get stuck teaching physical science and life science, because you're low man on the totem pole here and those are the classes other teachers don't want.

Unfortunately, the really good, experienced teachers generally end up teaching the honors classes, which, while good for the honors kids who would probably learn in spite of the teacher rather than because of the teacher if they needed to, it leaves the kids who struggle in the hands of the most inexperienced teachers, and those are the kids that really need quality teachers. That's one of the main reasons that new teachers burn out. They get thrown into classrooms that they do not have the classroom management skills to handle. In an ideal world, every kid would have an experienced, quality teacher, but in reality, that's not possible, and the newer teachers get the hardest kids to deal with, while the veterans get the honors kids that really want to learn and generally aren't discipline problems regardless of the teacher's management skills.

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maybe i'll just go for my phd and become a college professor....... then i just have to worry about mommy and daddy that are big alumni contributors............




hehe...hehe....HAHAH..BWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

*tears in the eyes* *ROLLING ON THE FLOOR*

whew...I needed a good laugh.....
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maybe i'll just go for my phd and become a college professor

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Wingi, didn't you turn wrenches on some AF jets? Get your A&P and IA and make $50 an hr as a jet engine mech....... ok, maybe not 50 but damn close:P

BTW, a buddy of mine is a professor (retired AF also) at a local college down here and only makes $65K a yr....:S Man, I KNOW you can do better than that.....!!

cheers,

Buck



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a professor (retired AF also) at a local college down here and only makes $65K a yr.... Man, I KNOW you can do better than that.



not really worrried about becoming rich......

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Don't start. I already feel guilty every time I see Stand and Deliver or Lean On Me. And ESPECIALLY that friggin' Mr. Holland's Opus!




I know, I know......too many of my posts are about movies, and technically, this is a hijack....but I LOVE Stand and Deliver. THAT'S A MOVIE!

I used to make fun of Holland's Opus cauise my sister loves it......now I stand a chance of losing a limb since a certain lady skydiver likes it. :$ Granted, I have never seen it, but I like to think I am smarter now. :ph34r:

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The Joy of Teaching

Then Jesus took his disciples up the mountain and, gathering them around him, he taught them, saying: Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Then Simon Peter said, "Are we supposed to know this?"

And Andrew said, "Do we have to write this down?"

And James said, "Is this examinable?"

And Phillip said, "Is there an answer guide in the library?"

And Bartholomew said, "What came after poor?"

And John said, "The other disciples didn't have to learn this!"

And Mark said, "Don't take the overhead off yet."

And Matthew went to the bathroom.

One of the Pharisees who was present asked to see Jesus' lesson plan and inquired of Jesus, "Where are your anticipatory set and your objectives in the cognitive domain?"

....and Jesus wept
What do you call a beautiful, sunny day that comes after two cloudy, rainy
ones? -- Monday.

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I guess my experiences are a bit different. I love teaching. I hate the politics though. I wish they would just leave me alone and let me do my job.
I have very few problems with parents. i call or email when a kids grade has gone down, and I document every conversation and email that I have/send. At the end there are no reasons to be mad at me, because I can prove that the parents had fair warning about their little darling failing and have not done anything about it.
I do NO work at home or on the weekends. I get to work at 7:15 everyday and leave by 3:30. Occasionally I have to buy something to use in my teaching, but that is the only time I spend outside of work hours. I get all my grading and planning done during my plan period. This was not true in my first years of teaching, but I am currently in my ninth year of doing this. I teach high school algebra.
I find the money to be just fine. I cannot afford everything that I want, but I am not scraping for funds, either. While I was still single and teaching I bought myself a little house. It can be done. Even bought myself my first rig, including a brand new cypres.
Do it because you love it.

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I'm a Doll!!!!

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I have some friends who are teachers, they have been for the last 20 plus years. And they make a nice sum of money. Oh yea, they took the time to earn there Phd equavalents (<---spelling police alert). If you are willing to spend some time in higher ed, earning advanced degrees, then you too can earn big bucks.

And most of them teach lower levels at grade school. I would suspect teaching lower grade levels is less stressful. Kindergartners and grades 1, 2 and 3 would be much easier to teach, IMNERHO.

And I do hear about no child left behind a bit. Even from lower level grade school teachers. I wonder if President Bush is trying to ensure kids like him are not left behind in the future?

If it's your dream, spend some time in a classroom. Check what it would take in your state to climb the earnings ladder.

Reach for your dreams, make them happen.

Jeff
Arch? I can arch just fine with my back to the ground.

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music and the arts are always the first things to get cut from any budget



glad i want to teach a science!!!!;):P


Science teacher here But working as an "AT RISK teacher. LOVE MY JOB, LOOK FORWARD TO GOING TO WORK EVERY DAY :)B|B|B|
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If it's your dream, spend some time in a classroom.



i agree 100%. there really is no better way to get a feel for it. you could start off by just volunteering to tutor kids in the hall 1 day a week or observing during class.

teaching is definitely NOT for everyone. but here are a few thought-stirrers to teaching:

* why else are we put on this Earth, if not to somehow improve the quality of life for others after?

* the great thing about teaching is you never know where your influence stops

* the pay is incredibly shitty, but teachers get paid when they go to Heaven

* give a man a fish- he eats for a day. teach a man to fish- he eats for a lifetime. (Chinese proverb)

best of luck deciding!
~hollywood

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give a man a fish- he eats for a day. teach a man to fish- he eats for a lifetime. (Chinese proverb



build a man a fire and you keep him warm for a day, set a man on fire and you keep him warm for the rest of his life....:P


thanks everyone for your input.. think i'm just going to work on getting my b.s. degree first and then worry alot more if i want to continue on.. hell for all i know i might want to continue on and get a phd........ untill then it's skydiving in the midwest...

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***think i'm just going to work on getting my b.s. degree first and then worry alot more if i want to continue on.. hell for all i know i might want to continue on and get a phd...



If you are serious about teaching, I suggest earn your teaching credentials, find a school district you like, THEN start racking up the credits for the Phd. I don't think my Phd friends have any thoughts of moving, or trying to change school districts...not too many districts want to hire someone who has a Phd...the cost to the district is pretty high, and teachers with a four year are easy to hire.

I seem to recall most of my friends credits were taken during the summer. I suspect you can find time to jump and earn that Phd.

Jeff

If not now, when?
Arch? I can arch just fine with my back to the ground.

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* the pay is incredibly shitty, but teachers get paid when they go to Heaven

*best of luck deciding!
~hollywood



Way to screw up a good thread:| The pay I get as a teacher is in the way the kids I look after present themselves at the end of the year, hopefully better people then they were the year before. That's the pay off:)
You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
My Life ROCKS!
How's yours doing?

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Apologies in advance for pissing anyone off, here B| but. . .
because I don't have a Bachelor's degree, I can't even get a 'Peggy Hill' substitute job in the state of Florida, even though I taught corporate execs (the children's parents) for years and years. . . (*snif*)

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I hearby nominate the nun for Grammar Police


I hereby nominate the nun to turn herself in to the punctuation and sentence structure police:

Average to good pay and the summer ' s off.

Teaching isn't usually a job you leave at the office , though. During the average school week I work between 50 and 70 hours ; sometimes + (more?) . Summer ' s are less than two months most places ; mine is about 1 1/2 months , but vacations and holidays sprinkled throughout the year are nice. The benefits rock , too.

A lot of my effort is unappreciated while it's ongoing though. (sentence structure?) (It's) A (l/c) bit like swimming in quicksand sometimes, head barely above water. (sentence structure?)


FLAME ON. . .

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Way to screw up a good thread:|



it's not screwing up the thread. it's called a REALITY CHECK. don't tell me you make oodles of $ being a teacher? and yes, as i said in my post, there are better payoffs than actual money.

~hollywood

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Well, since you're being the grammar police:

Your first semi-colon should be a comma, and there shouldn't be an apostrophe in "summers." It was "summers" plural, not "summer's" possessive. In the second to last sentence, she'd need a comma before "though."

Use a semicolon when you link two independent clauses with no connecting words. Use a comma before an afterthought or contrasting element.

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maybe i'll just go for my phd and become a college professor....... then i just have to worry about mommy and daddy that are big alumni contributors............




I'm a prof. and have been for over 30 years. Not once have I had to worry about alumni contributors. I have had to meet with a couple of "mothers from Hell" though.
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After her first semester teaching at an underprivileged high school in Houston, my sister admitted, "I've had to accept that I'm not saving the world one child at a time." Teaching is a noble profession, but it's like parenting (or so I understand, not being a teacher or a parent myself) in that most people go into it with unrealistically high expectations of their own capabilities.
I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

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I just saw this. B|

You're absolutely right. I should be expected to be perfect at all times and you definitely are more qualified to teach inner city high school students than I am. :S
You can flame me for my opinions experience as much as you'd like. I am sure it was a blast to make your point. Correct this post as well while you're at it! (BTW, some of your corrections were incorrect.) However, it’s 12:30AM and my little break has to end. I still have about 500 papers to correct before Monday. I assure you that they take more of my attention than do my posts.
I currently teach 2 classes each of 4 different preps. That means I teach eight different classes. I teach 200+ students a week. I love to teach but often I am weary when I come in here and just want to hang out and relax with friends. Call it stress relief and I do let my guard down in here.

I guess my point is this... did you even bother to read what I had to SAY? [:/]

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WOW you spend WAAY to much time justifying yourself to people who are ignorant of your circumstances:ph34r::ph34r::ph34r::ph34r:

I just ignore them, and refuse to let them occupy my time or thoughts.:ph34r:


Hope you are having as great a time with your kids as I am with mine:)
You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
My Life ROCKS!
How's yours doing?

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Way to screw up a good thread:|



it's not screwing up the thread. it's called a REALITY CHECK. don't tell me you make oodles of $ being a teacher? and yes, as i said in my post, there are better payoffs than actual money.

~hollywood



It was the heaven reference that screwed it up. Not all of us teachers think there is a heaven let alone work in hope of it being our reward for services as teachers:S:S:S:S:S

For what it's worth, I get paid just fine for the work I CHOSE as a profession. I knew the pay structure before becoming a teacher so I will never complain about it. if you are not getting what you think is a just recompense, find other more profitable work;)
You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
My Life ROCKS!
How's yours doing?

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