tbrown 26 #1 November 7, 2007 Interesting to see Aerodyne's Vision canopy advertised once again at their website and in this month's Parachutist. It sort of disappeared a few years back when the Mamba was introduced. At the time, the guy at the Aerodyne tent at a boogie told me the Vision hadn't been discontinued, and was still a very popular canopy in Europe. I had some friends who were jumping the Vision and were very pleased with the way it flew. So I'm just curious about the eclipsing and recent return of the Vision to the American market. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #2 November 7, 2007 I'd like to get more info on the Vision. I was reading some old post (2005 maybe?) while searching for info and it was very mixed and i believe someone said they were making improvements to it.1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #3 November 7, 2007 I had about 4 demo jumps on a Vision132. It was quite a wild ride in general. I've bought a Cobalt135 and that turned to be a good choice. Vision can be an excellent canopy, but not for my style. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #4 November 7, 2007 Yeah Andy, I would not be advertising the fact that you are asking Aerodyne for a demo of a vision when you only have 160 jumps. This would be a sure way for aerodyne not to be sending you a demo as the minimum requirement to jump a vision is 500 jumps. Does not really help the distributors case getting a demo sent out to you. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #5 November 7, 2007 I thought he really liked his Nitro... what does he need to demo a Vision for? "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #6 November 7, 2007 Its not my Nitro, i have a Diablo. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #7 November 7, 2007 Andy, I think it is time to open up bounce bingo on you mate. High performance canopies at your jump numbers, i am not sure we would get very good odds. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #8 November 7, 2007 Which one, i know lots 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaerodyne 0 #9 November 8, 2007 Quote Interesting to see Aerodyne's Vision canopy advertised once again at their website and in this month's Parachutist. It sort of disappeared a few years back when the Mamba was introduced. At the time, the guy at the Aerodyne tent at a boogie told me the Vision hadn't been discontinued, and was still a very popular canopy in Europe. I had some friends who were jumping the Vision and were very pleased with the way it flew. So I'm just curious about the eclipsing and recent return of the Vision to the American market. The Vision is still a great canpy and has a dedicated following byt hose who have jumped them, I have around 300+ jumps on a Vision 124, and loved it from day one (before I even worked for Aerodyne). The Vision is placed between the Pilot and the Mamba from a performance stand point. The Vision is a very reliable and consistent all round canopy for every day use. If you need more info check out our website or give us a call t the office. We have demo ready to ship out (sorry self promotion) Blue Skies Karl Meyer Sales Representative Aerodyne Research Office: 1 813 891 6300 www.flyaerodyne.com www.myspace.com/flyaerodyne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #10 November 9, 2007 Quote We have demo ready to ship out Really? .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaerodyne 0 #11 November 9, 2007 Quote Quote We have demo ready to ship out Really? Gary We have a variety of sizes of the Vision ready to demo, it's just unfortunate that the size you needed is not currently available in the demo fleet. We do have one on the US and EU Tours. And as stated in a PM, I am working to get the Vision 150 to your customer in the time frame he needs. Thanks for your understanding. Blue Skies Karl Meyer Sales Representative Aerodyne Research Office: 1 813 891 6300 www.flyaerodyne.com www.myspace.com/flyaerodyne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #12 November 9, 2007 Karl, I'm just teasing you mate. I know you will sort something out for me, I don't doubt that for a second. Aerodyne would move mountains for us distributors if they could and this is the main reason why my customers have not had a single complaint about your product. I think I have had one issue with a customer who bought aerodyne from me and they turned out to be one of my happiest customers after I put them in contact with you lot .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaerodyne 0 #13 November 9, 2007 Gary, what tease and no sleaze .... what kind of operation are you running ....? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #14 November 9, 2007 can you ask Sandy to try and check her emails over the weekend please. i have an issue that needs to be sorted out and i am off to a wedding all day today .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #15 November 10, 2007 Can you two get a room??? So how would you compare the different characteristics of the Vision to the Mamba? Less steeply trimmed? Lighter toggle and riser pressure? Shorter recover arc, longer than the pilot? "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EAerodyne 0 #16 November 10, 2007 Quote So how would you compare the different characteristics of the Vision to the Mamba? Less steeply trimmed? Lighter toggle and riser pressure? Shorter recover arc, longer than the pilot? Yes that is pretty accurate. The mamba was released to compete with the Crossfire and Katana. The Vision, has very light toggle and riser pressure, is trimmed flatter & doesn't dive quite as much after a turn. I'd say comparable to the Pilot. When jumping it for the first time, the first thing you will notice, is it doesn't have a very long snivel during the opening, this gives the sensation that the opening is quick, however timing the openings on video, they are pretty much the same as other canopies from Aerodyne. The shorter snivel, tends to not put so much emphasis on steering the canopy through the opening sequence to keep it on heading, and allows for more consistent on heading openings. Which for an elliptical canopy is a nice plus. It has been very successful in Europe and we've seen that trend migrate recently to the US. Possibly due to putting out a few demo's on the Aerodyne Travelling Demo Tour, which has probably sparked some interest. .... anyway our sales of the product have picked up in the US, and we felt that it was appropriate to start marketing it a little more, seeing it has been well received by those that have purchased them so far and based on it's popularity in Europe. Hope that answers your questions... if you would like to try a demo, give Karl or Sandy a call, they'd be happy to help you out. blue ones Bushman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koppel 4 #17 November 11, 2007 Quote When jumping it for the first time, the first thing you will notice, is it doesn't have a very long snivel during the opening, this gives the sensation that the opening is quick, however timing the openings on video, they are pretty much the same as other canopies from Aerodyne. The shorter snivel, tends to not put so much emphasis on steering the canopy through the opening sequence to keep it on heading, and allows for more consistent on heading openings. Which for an elliptical canopy is a nice plus. blue ones Bushman I always liked that about the Vision. Soft openings for camera but also reliable and on heading (except when it needs a new line set *ahem* ) Though having had three of them (one early 2004, the other two matched mid 2005) I noticed some difference in the models. I felt like the early model was more aggressive and dived for longer. Highly recommend the Vision for anyone who wants a bit more out of their canopy if they are on the Pilot/Safire/Sabre range without the hassles of the Katana/mamba/Xfire styleI like my canopy... ...it lets me down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaerodyne 0 #18 November 12, 2007 Quote I always liked that about the Vision. Soft openings for camera but also reliable and on heading (except when it needs a new line set *ahem* ) The Vision now comes with an option of HMA for your lines .... So no more going outta trim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #19 November 12, 2007 Quote So now more going outta trim Wink Is that a good thing??.... or do you mean "so NO more going out of trim"? .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
