Kentiy 0 #1 November 7, 2007 I heard, that at some DZ's some pilots already jumps on Velo-2 Is there any one, who jump or heard any opinions of this swoop machine? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kolla 0 #2 November 7, 2007 Might want to keep an eye on the World Cup in Sydney - several of those canopies will be used in that competition (if it ever stops raining ;) ). It is now in final phases of testing and we expect to be ready to introduce it to qualified pilots before too long :) I do want to emphasize that this is a canopy for highly experienced and dedicated canopy pilots - this is not a canopy that we expect to see go mainstream. As you put it - a swoop machine. Blue ones, Kolla KolbeinsdottirBlue Skies Magazine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #3 November 7, 2007 QuoteI do want to emphasize that this is a canopy for highly experienced and dedicated canopy pilots - this is not a canopy that we expect to see go mainstream. I don't think so. Any manufacturer would want to get their R&D money/investment back... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #4 November 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteI do want to emphasize that this is a canopy for highly experienced and dedicated canopy pilots - this is not a canopy that we expect to see go mainstream. I don't think so. Any manufacturer would want to get their R&D money/investment back... Sure, but that doesn't have to come directly from canopy sales. Getting a few qualified pilots under the fastest wing is going to build brand awareness, like they have in the car world where you have "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday." At least part of Audi's growth has to be attributed to the R8. Engineering exercises produce knowledge that gets applied to building other products. Elliptical planforms provide lower touch down speeds and increased control sensitivity. While first introduced on high-performance wings (Stiletto, Blue Track), those planforms have found their way all the way down to student gear (the Navigator) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #5 November 7, 2007 Quote Quote I do want to emphasize that this is a canopy for highly experienced and dedicated canopy pilots - this is not a canopy that we expect to see go mainstream. I don't think so. Any manufacturer would want to get their R&D money/investment back... Wow, what rude statement to a PD representative. You just called her a liar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #6 November 7, 2007 Quote Wow, what rude statement to a PD representative. You just called her a liar. Mad I did not, you did... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #7 November 7, 2007 umm she made a statement and you essentially told her it wasn't true. While you didn't directly call her a liar you implied it. Which in my book is the same thing as calling her a liar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #8 November 7, 2007 Quote Quote I do want to emphasize that this is a canopy for highly experienced and dedicated canopy pilots - this is not a canopy that we expect to see go mainstream. I don't think so. Any manufacturer would want to get their R&D money/investment back... You do realize that Kolla works for PD, right? I think she knows what she's talking about So Kolla, what do I need to do to try one of these out? Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #9 November 7, 2007 Quote You do realize that Kolla works for PD, right? I think she knows what she's talking about Wink Wow! Someone might have mentioned that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kolla 0 #10 November 7, 2007 For now, I think this canopy will pay us back in other ways than direct sales. Every project like this one is an incredible learning experience for the company, that pays us back indirectly when we go to develop other products or materials. For now I think you will see mostly the top pilots flying this canopy and several of them have some form of sponsor relationship with us - so they aren't going to bring us their wallets But, the sport of canopy piloting is gaining momentum, so maybe we will one day manage to make our R&D money back. In the meantime, we will look at it as one of those "pay it forward" things. It helps us continue to learn and helps the guys (and gals) flying the canopy to excel at what they love doing. Blue Skies Magazine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #11 November 7, 2007 Better watch out...get on the wrong side of Kolla, I'll bet she can kick your ass. She may be a small package, but so is dynamite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kolla 0 #12 November 7, 2007 Hey Ari, I think it's best if you spend a few more jumps with that Navigator, I think your landings are really improving!! All kidding aside, be patient a little while longer, bake me a few more cookies and we will see what happens ;) Bloooos!! kolla Blue Skies Magazine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #13 November 7, 2007 I just can't stay current enough on the Navigator; it's too big to bring into the tunnel I can definitely bring more cookies I hope the weather starts cooperating in Sydney. I want to see how the PD boys do on the velo 2 Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #14 November 7, 2007 yes, it's definitely a swoop machine. very cool to fly and compete under. two thumbs up Slip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #15 November 7, 2007 Having watched some people that have that canopy fly it, I can tell you its HOT. Then again, those guys (and girl) would fly the piss out of a old Coe-d and make it look like a hot swooping canopy. I'm with you, I'm impatiently waiting, and hoping they release the "bigboy" sizes too (preferably a 111).--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilchief 1 #16 November 8, 2007 Quote I do want to emphasize that this is a canopy for highly experienced and dedicated canopy pilots - this is not a canopy that we expect to see go mainstream. As you put it - a swoop machine. Blue ones, Kolla Kolbeinsdottir Wasn't the same said about the stiletto and Velo 1? Still there's some unexperienced hot-shot dumbasses out there slobering for it to be released I guess But from another view, I can't wait to see (if possible) the difference and what kind of improvements that have been incorporated and how it flies! I've been waiting for this to happens recently, because I know that during 10 years a lot of new stuff is learned. I hope the PD boyz are bringing them over to norway next year =D"Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you long to return." - Da Vinci www.lilchief.no Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kolla 0 #17 November 8, 2007 Yep - same thing was said, and will be said, every time we take a step up in performance. There will always be those that get a little ahead of themselves, but we must do what we can to look after each other. With proper coaching & training people are definitely getting to high performance levels faster than ever before - but I REALLY hope that jumpers keep in mind that experience comes over time, not just jump numbers. We will do our best as a manufacturer to educate our dealers & customers about the canopy. Guys like the PD Factory Team & Fastrax will help spread the knowledge. And the PD Factory Team has already brought those canopies to Norway - just a little bit under cover at the time - I'm sure you will see them again next year! Blue Skies Magazine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #18 November 8, 2007 Quote She may be a small package, but so is dynamite. And jello! Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Professor 0 #19 November 8, 2007 Quote It is now in final phases of testing and we expect to be ready to introduce it to qualified pilots before too long :) I've got a velo 103 and I'm planning on buying a 96 before too long. Should I wait for this new thing, or just go with the old Velocity? Ted Like a giddy school girl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kolla 0 #20 November 8, 2007 Hey Ted, Well - it really depends on what you want out of the canopy. This thing will come "swoop ready" standard, with 300 HMA lines etc. So - if you are planning on freefall, I would say stick with the standard Velocity, it might fit your all-around needs better. If however, you want a dedicated swoop canopy, the new one is going to be more up your alley. And I guess I can tell you that we won't be calling it a Velo2.... Blue Skies Magazine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #21 November 8, 2007 You'll probably want to get a regular velocity. The new one comes with 300 HMA and an rds. I dont believe there are plans to line it with 500 hma at this stage, it's just not what it's designed to do. 300 HMA means much higher line breakage chance as well as significantly higher maintenance costs and regular relines. edit: Kolla beat me to the punch Blues, Ian Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Professor 0 #22 November 8, 2007 Quote Well - it really depends on what you want out of the canopy. This thing will come "swoop ready" standard, with 300 HMA lines etc. So - if you are planning on freefall, I would say stick with the standard Velocity, it might fit your all-around needs better. I need a canopy for working/video, freefall/freefly/etc, and team training, so I guess the classic version will be for me. Thanks Kolla. Ted Like a giddy school girl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
everymansaved 0 #23 November 8, 2007 What's it called then?!?!God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kolla 0 #24 November 8, 2007 Can't tell just yet - but soon hopefully Blue Skies Magazine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #25 November 8, 2007 It is called the "Grant"... They saw my high performance capabilities and were so amazed that they decided to name the canopy after me! hahaha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
