bmcd308 0 #1 April 21, 2006 The former owner of my house screwed 30 amp fustat adaptors into the edison bases of the fuse box. I want to use 15 amp fuses. A 15 amp fuse will not screw into a 30 amp adaptor. How can I get these out? If I use pliers to destroy them, will I actually be able to get them out? I am hesitant to try to replace the whole edison bases, primarily because I have no idea where I would find the parts (panel installed in 1951). Thanks. Brent ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #2 April 21, 2006 Whew. Glad Im not there for that one! Ever figure out how to put a door where that fuse box is? Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leapdog 0 #3 April 21, 2006 It's not a good idea to use 15 amp fuses where 30 amp already resides, that is why they don't fit. I'm not familiar with the circuit so I can't give much advice except that you need to have a professional look at it and decide if the circuit is safe with 15 amp fuses. Also, they may blow all the time if the circuit is more than 15 amp hence why it is 30 amp fuse now. Gunnery Sergeant of Marines "I would like it if I were challenged mentally at my job and not feel like I'm mentally challenged." - Co-worker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #4 April 21, 2006 QuoteIt's not a good idea to use 15 amp fuses where 30 amp already resides, that is why they don't fit. You might have missed the part about the 30 amp fuses being in adapters.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #5 April 21, 2006 They are 15 amp circuits. I am guessing the previous owner got tired of replacing 15 amp fuses every time he fired up his cricular saw, so he put in 30 amp fuses. The only problem is that when he put in 30 amp fuses, he used the kind with the fustat base. I want to go down (to what is appropriate for the wiring), not up. Brent ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #6 April 21, 2006 Speaking of, you ought to see the kitchen. Freshly painted, new main light fixture, track lighting between the kitchen and the awkward room, 3 pendant lights over the sink, and under cabinet lighting. Now you do not have to walk all the way through the dark kitchen to turn on a light. I went on a wiring spree. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #7 April 21, 2006 again. Glad I missed that one. one of these days I'll get back up there and we'll drink all your liquor, figure out how to fix the akward room and solve all the worlds problems again... Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leapdog 0 #8 April 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteIt's not a good idea to use 15 amp fuses where 30 amp already resides, that is why they don't fit. You might have missed the part about the 30 amp fuses being in adapters. No, I got it. They seem to be permanant since the parts can't be readily found. Also unitl she posted that it wasn't original one has to assume that 30 amp was original to the circuit. Did you have advice or just trying to point out a discrepancy? Just curious Gunnery Sergeant of Marines "I would like it if I were challenged mentally at my job and not feel like I'm mentally challenged." - Co-worker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #9 April 21, 2006 I miss those visits. And the awkward room is coming into its own. Having Laura around is making things a lot better, because she has good ideas about how to set things up. Sometimes it creates lots of work, though. Brent ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #10 April 21, 2006 I agree that in general, a 15 amp fuse is not a good thing in a circuit designed for 30 amps. However, in my situation, I have a 30 amp fuse on a circuit designed for 15 amps, which is an even worse thing. And actually, given the age of the wire inside my walls and ceilings, it would not hurt my feelings to go even lower on the lighting circuits. I suspect that at some point, the previous owner blew a fuse with his circular saw or something, got irritated, and fixed that problem but good. Unfortunately, he created a new problem - overfused circuits. I wish he had just stuck a penny in it. I could get that out. Brent ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scrublink 0 #11 April 21, 2006 In some areas you can find an electrical supplier that deals in used and reconditioned parts. If so then you might be able to find a used assembly (fuse holders) and replace it. If you kill the power to the panel you can remove the adapters by either tappin them out with the edge of a screwdriver, but be careful because if they don't loosen up you can bung up the threads enough that you won't get anything in or that piece out. If I was to make a service call to your house I would suggest replacing the old panelboard with a new model. I don't know what market rates are in TN. but it usually takes me three to four hours start to finish for a simple panel change. Sometimes less if all the planets are aligned. I new panel with breakers also adds value to the house. If you really want to go nuts and throw money at it you could probably upgrade the service to 200 amps. (you probably have 60 or 100 amps now if it is orignal). That is usually an eight hour job (give or take). One electrician with a helper can usually get all but the most screwed up systems upgraded and finished in 6 hours. And yes I am a licensed electrician (in Ma.) . Any other questions please feel free to post or PM me. Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #12 April 21, 2006 i second what scrublink said.... breakers are soo much easier and no need to buy fuses when they "blow"....... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #13 April 21, 2006 Quotetrack lighting between the kitchen and the awkward room What the hell is an awkward room???__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scrublink 0 #14 April 21, 2006 Must be the one where you get drunk and fall down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #15 April 21, 2006 QuoteMust be the one where you get drunk and fall down. Cant be, I gave up drinking 10 years ago. Maybe its the room where polite conversation fails after someone says something socially wrong and everyone stand around uncomfortably looking at their feet.__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #16 April 21, 2006 An awkward room is a room that has no clear purpose. I think it was supposed to be a bedroom. It is in the back corner of the house, and it shares a common wall with the kitchen. It has a closet as if it was a bedroom, and it has a door that opens into the hall. It is the size of a bedroom. The reason it is awkward is that about a third of the wall between it and the kitchen is missing. So it is a bedroom with a big opening into the kitchen. The real tragedy is that the electric service entrance and the panel are in the exterior wall of hte house right where the wall between the kitchen and the bedroom would tie in if it existed. So you can't really build a wall between the kitchen and the awkward room, because you would be hiding the panel. Moving the panel would be a colossal pain in the azz, even if I could find an electrician who would do it on the side for me. Doing it so that it would meet code is out of the question, since the house has plaster walls and old, 2-conductor wire with crappy insulation that is falling off. Thanks for the replies to this thread, by the way. Funny how much different stuff posters on this board know. Brent ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #17 April 21, 2006 some can even cut you open, fix stuff and then sew ya back up.... while others send stuff into space, and also make corn grow.... a cross section of life.... hell we even got the redneck dualing brothers as a guest apperiance.... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #18 April 21, 2006 Sure. My advise was that I didn't think your comment was applicable. She had 30 amp fuses in a 15 amp circuit and you were warning against putting 15 amp fuses in a 30 amp circuit.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #19 April 21, 2006 Why does everyone think I am a she? EDITED: Don't answer that. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasonRose 0 #20 April 22, 2006 If you have the cash upgrade to a breaker panel and dump the old fuse style. The cost for the upgrade will cost around 120 bucks for parts and if you have any electrician buddy's you might get the labor for free. As far as you fuse problem goes why are you trying to stuff a 15amp fuse into a 30 amp circuit??? If your equipment load is above 15amps it is just going to blow it. Some day I will have the best staff in the world!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydemon2 0 #21 April 22, 2006 circut breakers and fuses are for pussies rip it all out and hardwire it!!!Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clean to the bone! I like to start my day off with a little Ray of Soulshine™!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #22 April 22, 2006 Good point. I am going to replace all the fuses with pennies. That way I do not have to worry about them blowing, and if they do (wow) it will only cost a penny to replace them. I guess this is why my dad told me never to pay more than a cent for a fuse. Brent ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #23 April 25, 2006 QuoteQuote5. All replies to girlfalldown should be in threads that she's probably not reading. Email notification of such replies are specifically prohibited. Busted! Dammit!!! Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #24 April 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote5. All replies to girlfalldown should be in threads that she's probably not reading. Email notification of such replies are specifically prohibited. Busted! Dammit!!! Blues, Dave talk about random. Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
