jerolim 7 #1 November 15, 2007 Hi, Does anyone know some info about Russian manufactures : http://www.atmogear.com/ http://www.paraavis.com/ http://www.zvezda-npp.ru/ppd/ About quality, durability, general appearance, etc... Maybe some of you riggers has seen this gear ? Jerolim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWPoul 1 #2 November 15, 2007 What are you looking for? Harness/container? Canopy? For canopies - look also for skylark's (www.skylark.com.ua) thier canopy is just TFBAs for harness, there is one more manufacturer www.parazone.ru I jumping their Status IV it's an older model but eve so - I find it quite good:) Friends of mine jumping newer generation of Zvezda's and Parazona's Harness and happy to... Why drink and drive, if you can smoke and fly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #3 November 16, 2007 I was impressed with some of the newer Paraavis that I saw and would jump one but the one thing holding me back... ......A TSO!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #4 November 16, 2007 QuoteI was impressed with some of the newer Paraavis that I saw and would jump one but the one thing holding me back... ......A TSO! Do they use a TSO system in Russia? If not do they have some other proving system? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerolim 7 #5 November 16, 2007 Hi NWPoul, I am looking for Harness/container for accuracy canopy for me and for one jumper from my club. I use classic 270 main, and he uses classic 304. Does atmogear have TCO ?Quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWPoul 1 #6 November 16, 2007 QuoteHi NWPoul, I am looking for Harness/container for accuracy canopy for me and for one jumper from my club. I use classic 270 main, and he uses classic 304. Does atmogear have TCO ? AFAIK No one manufacturer here has TSO (and I doubt that it will be soon) only sertificate from Airtec P.S. For accuracy rig IMHO Zvezda is more suitable choice than others...Why drink and drive, if you can smoke and fly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #7 November 17, 2007 IMO: Arguably, Atmogear makes the best H/Cs, followed by Parazone and Paraavis, followed by Zvezda. Canopy-wise, that would be Skylark (on par with Western counterparts, and then some), followed by Paraavis (mediocre), followed by Zvezda (downright terrible). I am more familiar with BASE-gear from said manufacturers, but I would not hesitate to buy an Atmogear skydiving H/C and a Skylark canopy, and I would not buy anything from Zvezda, period (other than their accuracy canopy and then only if you can get it for a song). No TSO on any of the above though, and no plans of obtaining one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kschilk 0 #8 November 17, 2007 Check out the Lesniks. I jumped with a few that had them and they really seemed to like 'em. They looked sturdy and appeared to handle nicely. Never got to try one, though. http://www.ivparachute.com/view_product.aspx?prodid=53"T'was ever thus." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites badlock 0 #9 November 17, 2007 Interesting! The gear looks really good, but to my eyes most of the rigs look like copies of Mirages Voodoos ICONs Quasars VortexIIs/Wings hmhhhhh...... Don't be a Lutz! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kschilk 0 #10 November 17, 2007 Quote Interesting! The gear looks really good, but to my eyes most of the rigs look like copies of Mirages Voodoos ICONs Quasars VortexIIs/Wings hmhhhhh...... Exactly.....they look like perfect copies but they're made from sturdier material. They're pretty common over there, their smokejumpers use Lesniks. Like I said, I never jumped them but I handled some of the rigs and they were quite heavy, compared to mine. I had a Triathlon 160 and theirs were 15 sq. meter canopies (about 161 sq. ft.). Theirs seemed to be slightly more hi-per than the Tri but that mighta' been mostly due to wing-loading. * I was told that I could buy one over there (2000), for somewhere around $500 - $800.00 new.....but I can't swear to the price. Exchange rate was almost 30:1. Also, you get "told" a lot of things, over there....that may have been a "black-market" price. I fixed a car for a guy from customs, while I was there....I got some nice stuff! "T'was ever thus." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
NWPoul 1 #6 November 16, 2007 QuoteHi NWPoul, I am looking for Harness/container for accuracy canopy for me and for one jumper from my club. I use classic 270 main, and he uses classic 304. Does atmogear have TCO ? AFAIK No one manufacturer here has TSO (and I doubt that it will be soon) only sertificate from Airtec P.S. For accuracy rig IMHO Zvezda is more suitable choice than others...Why drink and drive, if you can smoke and fly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #7 November 17, 2007 IMO: Arguably, Atmogear makes the best H/Cs, followed by Parazone and Paraavis, followed by Zvezda. Canopy-wise, that would be Skylark (on par with Western counterparts, and then some), followed by Paraavis (mediocre), followed by Zvezda (downright terrible). I am more familiar with BASE-gear from said manufacturers, but I would not hesitate to buy an Atmogear skydiving H/C and a Skylark canopy, and I would not buy anything from Zvezda, period (other than their accuracy canopy and then only if you can get it for a song). No TSO on any of the above though, and no plans of obtaining one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kschilk 0 #8 November 17, 2007 Check out the Lesniks. I jumped with a few that had them and they really seemed to like 'em. They looked sturdy and appeared to handle nicely. Never got to try one, though. http://www.ivparachute.com/view_product.aspx?prodid=53"T'was ever thus." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badlock 0 #9 November 17, 2007 Interesting! The gear looks really good, but to my eyes most of the rigs look like copies of Mirages Voodoos ICONs Quasars VortexIIs/Wings hmhhhhh...... Don't be a Lutz! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kschilk 0 #10 November 17, 2007 Quote Interesting! The gear looks really good, but to my eyes most of the rigs look like copies of Mirages Voodoos ICONs Quasars VortexIIs/Wings hmhhhhh...... Exactly.....they look like perfect copies but they're made from sturdier material. They're pretty common over there, their smokejumpers use Lesniks. Like I said, I never jumped them but I handled some of the rigs and they were quite heavy, compared to mine. I had a Triathlon 160 and theirs were 15 sq. meter canopies (about 161 sq. ft.). Theirs seemed to be slightly more hi-per than the Tri but that mighta' been mostly due to wing-loading. * I was told that I could buy one over there (2000), for somewhere around $500 - $800.00 new.....but I can't swear to the price. Exchange rate was almost 30:1. Also, you get "told" a lot of things, over there....that may have been a "black-market" price. I fixed a car for a guy from customs, while I was there....I got some nice stuff! "T'was ever thus." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
