councilman24 37 #1 December 17, 2007 I've been informed that at least one rigger, and probably many other uses, believe that the repack cycle for emergency and reserve parachutes in the U.S. has been changed to 180 days. IT HAS NOT. No decision has yet been published by the FAA. They have 18 months from the closing of the comment period on the PROPOSED RULE to make a final decision. Until they do so, publish it, and we understand the effective date, the inspection cycle is STILL 120 DAYS. If you can't convince someone of this ask them to show you the published rule and changed FAR's. PIA Rigging Committee ChairmanI'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladydyver 0 #2 December 17, 2007 any idea of if or when it will change?DPH # 2 "I am not sure what you are suppose to do with that, but I don't think it is suppose to flop around like that." ~Skootz~ I have a strong regard for the rules.......doc! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #3 December 17, 2007 Quoteany idea of if or when it will change? QuoteThey have 18 months from the closing of the comment period on the PROPOSED RULE to make a final decision. Welcome to the Federal Government. Have a seat and we'll call your number....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #4 December 17, 2007 I wondered when this would start happening. I was sure it was just a matter of time until someone would think we were at 180 days now. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenneth21441 0 #5 December 18, 2007 You mean that we are not? I guess some people just want to think that it has taken effect. I personally will wait for my letter, to let me know., ' Kenneth Potter FAA Senior Parachute Rigger Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA) FFL Gunsmith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #6 December 18, 2007 Rumors change far faster than regulations. Tee! Hee! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflysteve 0 #7 December 18, 2007 UK is still 6 months but in Spain apparently its now 1 year !!! It would be nice to have some uniformity cos having maybe for you guys and gals depending on how often you jump 3 reserve repacks a year is not only expensive but shortens your reserve life comparitive to a UK jumper and now especially a Spanish jumper. Hope you get your 180 at least. Swooping, huh? I love that stuff ... all the flashing lights and wailing sirens ... it's very exciting! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #8 December 18, 2007 Does this mean that it looks like it actually is going to change or are some people just indulging in a whole lot of wishful thinking?__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #9 December 18, 2007 Quote I've been informed that at least one rigger, and probably many other uses, believe that the repack cycle for emergency and reserve parachutes in the U.S. has been changed to 180 days. IT HAS NOT. How about now? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #10 December 18, 2007 > Does this mean that it looks like it actually is going to change . . . The comment period has ended, so they will review the comments and decide whether or not it makes sense to implement the change. Generally a NPRM means they are quite serious about the proposed change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #11 December 18, 2007 I would characterize it this way. The FAA decided that it may be a resonable change based on the wavier application. They issued the NPRM to get comments from the community. They got those. They have to rebut each negative comment individually. There are some legitamit reasons to stay at 120. The split proposal 120/180 makes some sense too. The fact that the NPRM was published doesn't make it a done deal eventually and doesn't mean they can't rewrite the rule change. There are many people envolved that believe it will change to 180 days. The sceptic in me says it's a toss up. About equal numbers of professional riggers supported it as opposed it. Got a coin?I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #12 December 18, 2007 Quote Quote IT HAS NOT. How about now? Are we there yet, are we there yet...Thanks for the update Terry. I've got pilots that are almost accusing me of hiding the change from them (as though it was already in place)... I keep telling them "you've delt with the FAA... you tell me how fast they are to make things easier...??" Personally I'm fine with 180 as long as they don't all want them on the same day. JWAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #13 December 18, 2007 Quote I've got pilots that are almost accusing me of hiding the change from them (as though it was already in place)... Sh*t!!! I haven't meet a pilot yet that gets his bail-out rig repaced every 120 days let alone would ever 180. Tell them to quit their bitchin' and call up the local FSDO and ask if its 120 or 180 days? I'd be stunned if anyone there knew on the spot and didn't have to go look it up... that's if they even picked up the phone in the first place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #14 December 18, 2007 Quote Quote I've got pilots that are almost accusing me of hiding the change from them (as though it was already in place)... Sh*t!!! I haven't meet a pilot yet that gets his bail-out rig repaced every 120 days let alone would ever 180. Most of mine do, but they're involved in a weekly airshow with a Fed on the field EVERY week. The down side is that the show goes 6 mo... means EVERYONE will want their rig packed the week before the season so as to last through the end of the season (~180 days later)... I think I will start charging premium for that week. JWAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimjumper 25 #15 December 18, 2007 And these are the same people some want to turn over USPA regulations and ratings to? I hope we are done evolving as a sport and are willing to live with things as they are now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #16 December 19, 2007 Quote ...I think I will start charging premium for that week... A lot of riggers I know are already saying they are going to nearly double their price ($50ish to $80ish) for a reserve repack if the cycle goes to 180 days. So, it wouldn't be like you'd be the only one out there doing that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #17 December 19, 2007 QuoteQuote ...I think I will start charging premium for that week... A lot of riggers I know are already saying they are going to nearly double their price ($50ish to $80ish) for a reserve repack if the cycle goes to 180 days. So, it wouldn't be like you'd be the only one out there doing that. I will likely do so in '08 regardless, but then I haven't raised my core prices since 1999. I don't rig FOR the money, but its starting to cost me more money and time than its been worth... (OK, it always was...) JWAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lonelymoose 0 #18 December 19, 2007 QuoteQuote Welcome to the Federal Government. Have a seat and we'll call your number.... I know this is off subject but its amazing how fast they act if they get paid enough! Except for the recent change to the mandatory retirement age for air carrier pilots to 65. The House passed it last monday, the Senate on Tuesday, the President on Wednesday, effectively immediately! Talk about a screw job! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
