Hausse 0 #1 December 22, 2007 Hey everybody I need you help. I just got a Viso yesterday and I can't put it together (as a wrist mount). I unpacked it and there is either a part missing or me and at least another 5 people are too stupid to get it working. Since L&B is on Christmas break they will receive my nasty E-mail then, and I won't be able to use it for the whole Christmas. There is no directions at ALL in the booklet how to put it together. About 50 pages on how to use it but nothing on how to assemble it. I added a picture of what I have. It would be great if the Viso using people could tell me if I'm stupid or if there is something missing Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SnurgeMunkey 0 #2 December 22, 2007 Yes, basically it's a crap kit! You can either use the small cable ties provided to fix each corner of the VISO to either of the wrist mounts. Or you need to purchase the Clear Silicone Protector which then allows you to fix the Protector with the VISO inside to either of the wrist mounts using the wax type string provided. However each way of doing it is basically a 'Lash up' and you would expect better from L&B. Considering they've gone to all the trouble of making some nice wrist mounts. Then obviously forgot to figure out how to attach the VISO to them so must have got the stores man to put some string and cables ties in at the last minute! p.s. If you do use the Protector you'll find that you'll have to cut the screen out later so that you can see the VISO readout in freefall! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Armour666 0 #3 December 22, 2007 I dont have problem seeing the screen in freefall I use a small (Very small drop of water) and then press all of the air our and it's very clear to see the screenSO this one time at band camp..... "Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #4 December 22, 2007 I don't seriously have to tie it onto there do I??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faulknerwn 38 #5 December 23, 2007 Tie it on or zip tie it. I think I did both on mine :-) And yeah, it was complicated to figure out! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 December 23, 2007 You can re-assemble a three ring but you can't figure out how to take some super tack and attach your alti to it's mount? Good grief.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #7 December 23, 2007 He does now thanks to the internet, what would we do without the internet??!! "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
L.O. 0 #8 December 23, 2007 That was a little uncalled for JP. The stuff from most manufactures comes with some assembly instructions and the L&B guys are usually great. This kit is garbage the way it was received. To have to tack and cooble this expensive equipment together is not right. two riggers the Square one dealer and everyone else who looked at it were all baffled. We just didn't expect such a difficult process.HPDBs, I hate those guys. AFB, charter member. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #9 December 23, 2007 ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeyo 1 #10 December 24, 2007 heres what i figured out... there must be 368 more ways hope it helpedHISPA #93 DS #419.5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #11 December 25, 2007 Hey that looks great but I would like to use the wrist band with the finger ring. What is the velcro on the back/front of the finger ring thingy for? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeyo 1 #12 December 25, 2007 Quote It would be great if the Viso using people could tell me if I'm stupid or if there is something missing Theres nothing missing man j/k Quote What is the velcro on the back/front of the finger ring thingy for? You want to mount the Viso unit to the other side of that velcro, using the velcro to cover up the black cord you use to tie the unit. The velcro will then be the part resting against the top of your hand. Just tie it tight and secure and jump it. Or send it to me and Ill mount it for you. Im not a rigger but I have common sense. HISPA #93 DS #419.5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #13 December 25, 2007 Hm okey so I assume that I was either just too stupid or that I was expecting something good for $180 and not a bunch of crap I have to tie together. I think it's the second one. I really like the wrist mount but it's a shame that J&B fucked up how to mount the unit to the wrist band. And some instructions in the booklet wouldn't hurt either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #14 December 25, 2007 Whatever you do don't chew gum and walk at the same time. You might hurt yourself. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #15 December 26, 2007 Okey diabolo pilot, have you ever had a Viso? And if you did, were you satisfied with a wrist mount that you had to KNOT together? I would assume that for $180 I can get an actually nice mount and not something I have to just randomly knot together... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #16 December 26, 2007 Yes I have, and I had no trouble figuring that it attached to the hand mount the same way it attached to a helmet. Since people seem to be demanding visuals that can double as an audible, then they have to compromise. You want a hand mount? Buy one. L&B is in the top three customer service companies in skydiving by my book. Try talking to them about your complaint, I'll bet they make you happy.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #17 December 26, 2007 I don't think the viso is an audible, so it would be strange to think that it would attach to a hand mount the same way it mounts to a helmet. Since when do L&B audibles have to be sewn to helmets anyway? "You want a hand mount? Buy one." Umm, it comes with one. Why should anybody have to buy it? L&B could just come up with a better way of attaching it to the hand mount (like a neptune) or include instructions on the hard way. Geez, the grumpy, burned out, full time jumpers these days... they think everything has to be done the hard way like they did it in the olden days (9 years ago). I remember when we had to walk uphill, through the snow, both ways to mount an altimeter! And we liked it! Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #18 December 26, 2007 I completely agree with dave. It should be easy and convenient to attach it. If I would want it the hard way I'd build one myself... By the way I already contacted L&B and they are on vacation until January. They dropped me a quick note though so the service seems to be good when they are working. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeyo 1 #19 December 26, 2007 The Viso gives you 2 options to mount it. With a single strap or with the finger ring. I like that option. But I agree, they should come up with a more convenient way to mount it. But its not hard to figure out how to do it.HISPA #93 DS #419.5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #20 December 26, 2007 I am yet to see better service from a skydiving manufacturer than L and B, though wings, aerodyne and UPT come a very close second. Email MAds at L and B and he will go out of his way to make sure you are satisfied. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #21 December 26, 2007 Hey I have no doubt that L&B will offer great service but I still think I should be able to take it out of the package and just click it together and not having to ask tons of people if I seriously have to tie stuff together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #22 December 26, 2007 QuoteHey I have no doubt that L&B will offer great service but I still think I should be able to take it out of the package and just click it together and not having to ask tons of people if I seriously have to tie stuff together. I figured it would have been apparent to you when you opened the package and there was nothing to "click together"....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #23 December 26, 2007 It wasn't to me nor to any of the at least 5 people who looked at it (3 senior riggers with all more than 3000 jumps). Most probably because we expected something slightly better. I'll jump it next weekend. I hope the altimeter itself is better than the mount. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #24 December 26, 2007 QuoteIt wasn't to me nor to any of the at least 5 people who looked at it (3 senior riggers with all more than 3000 jumps). Most probably because we expected something slightly better. I'll jump it next weekend. I hope the altimeter itself is better than the mount. Lars and Mads- His views about 'something better' and ' hoping it is better than the mount', despite his signature having my gear store in it, i assure you these are not the views of the karnage krew as I believe you guys make superior products over anything similar. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #25 December 26, 2007 I am sorry I did not mean to talk bad about the Visos. The reason why I ordered it was that it has excellent functions for a very good price and the service L&B has seems also to be really good since they replied to my concerns nearly instantly, despite being on holidays. I really hope I can jump the Viso next weekend and I'm sure it will work great after having somebody help me to mount it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
