squirrel 0 #26 March 4, 2006 ok, next time i think we should paint all the surrounding ground area digital green before the jump, then we can dig in anything we want! ummm...yeah (office space voice) ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #27 March 5, 2006 Good god people. There must be shit weather everywhere if this is what people are bitching about. Just so everyone remembers, the editor/layout designers job was open a few months ago. Where were all your resumes?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merkur 1 #28 March 5, 2006 QuoteI agree,,look how rich the color is on the "Skydiving" cover, obvious a different location but a riviting shot none the less.................... Different location of the camer guy -- yes. different location of the jump -- no. In regards to the next record: In his interview on skydiveradio.com BJ mentioned that 444 would be a pretty cool number. From my personal impression that would be still doable with the five planes - even if this time it was already pretty "cosy" in the hercs and I don't know if Ben could extend the oxygen system. It will probably take at least 2 years but my guess would be 3+. M.vSCR No.94 Don't dream your life - live your dream! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #29 March 5, 2006 I think it's awesome. I'm truly amazed when I look at that photo. Can't imagine anyone complaining about it being on the cover of Parachutist. Of COURSE it should be on the cover. Would another head-down freeflyer geeking the camera be a better shot????? linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #30 March 5, 2006 QuoteI understand . . . You are always so opinionated. I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #31 March 6, 2006 It is a diff location, and its a diff skydive,its the cover with Freeflyers on it over sand dunes,,its incredible... I'm not bitching about the 400 being on the cover,,just the angle they chose...i would have gone exit shot for the cover and 400 as a centerfold...my .02smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #32 March 6, 2006 Yes, I am not saying that the 400 way doesn't deserve the cover or that it should be something other than RW. This has nothing to do with WHAT the picture is, only that it is a drab, ugly cover for a magazine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #33 March 6, 2006 QuoteIt is a diff location, and its a diff skydive,its the cover with Freeflyers on it over sand dunes,,its incredible... I'm not bitching about the 400 being on the cover,,just the angle they chose...i would have gone exit shot for the cover and 400 as a centerfold...my .02 I think that you might see more shots in upcoming Parachutists. The record was done a little close to press time for some magazines I think. The Swedish magazine had a good cover and full article. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #34 March 6, 2006 I wonder what the alternatives were? ANOTHER shot of one or two people doing the exact same thing with their tongues sticking out as the last 1000 covers? (I like the shots from below also - better resolution) I'm wondering when we can eliminate the hard copy of parachutist altogether and just have it on-line. Sucks to pay for these. Or in our household 2 of them. You can't even decline the magazine in trade for reduced cost on yearly membership. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #35 March 6, 2006 Quote I'm wondering when we can eliminate the hard copy of parachutist altogether and just have it on-line. Sucks to pay for these. Or in our household 2 of them. You can't even decline the magazine in trade for reduced cost on yearly membership. Agreed. It's been at least a year since I've opened one. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
droquette 0 #36 March 6, 2006 I agree... I think the cover totally sucked,,, dont get me wrong the 400 way is awesome and huge congrats to all of those who participated... i just feel they should have used a different angle or something, my $.02 aint worth very much though.. blues, danHISPA 72 ----- "Muff Brother" 3733 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airman1270 0 #37 March 6, 2006 I kinda had the same reaction at first, but they only held it for fewer than five seconds and there wasn't much time to maneuver for a better shot. Besides, the people citing the historical significance of the event DO have a point. Cheers, Jon S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #38 March 6, 2006 There was more then 1 camera flyer. I can personaly think of 4 or 5 that were on it so I guess about 10-12 were probally on it total.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #39 March 6, 2006 I have seen numerous shots by other cameraflyers that would have made a better cover. Some of which were so much more colorful and better angles that it is hard to believe it was from the same jump. And how many times do I have to state that I AGREE it has huge historical significance and that I am in NO WAY arguing that the accomplishment is anything less than amazing?! My only point is that it is a drab, cluttered picture that makes a terrible looking magazine cover. I can't be anymore clear on what I am saying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #40 March 6, 2006 I think your point that the 400 way is boring and non-eventful belittles the efforts of the entire team and support crew. It's certainly an amzing accomplishment. I also disagree with your position that all skydiving should be stopped at all cost. () (Just practicing for Speaker's Corner - How'd I do?) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #42 March 6, 2006 QuoteI think your point that the 400 way is boring and non-eventful belittles the efforts of the entire team and support crew. It's certainly an amzing accomplishment. I also disagree with your position that all skydiving should be stopped at all cost. () (Just practicing for Speaker's Corner - How'd I do?) You forgot the personal attack - and you didn't call him overtly unintelligent. OH and you didn't include any absolutes, ie. Completely, or Totally, or hmm - Absolutely. . . See below: QuoteI think your point that the 400 way is boring and non-eventful completely belittles the efforts of the entire team and support crew. It's certainly an amzing accomplishment. I also totally disagree with your position that absolutely all skydiving should be stopped at all cost. see - now doesn't that sem to evoke more irrational emotion than your petty version?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #43 March 6, 2006 Wow, you're good! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #44 March 6, 2006 QuoteWow, you're good! I used to be a SC regular - Then I was insulted by Kallend - Couldn't take it any more - Therapy and long involved talks with Ron and the Peaceful Jeffrey are the only way I can still post to this day. I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #45 March 7, 2006 cover may be ugly but page 34 KICKS ASS!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skykittykat 0 #46 March 7, 2006 QuoteI am not taking away anything from the accomplishment or the photographer. I just think it looks like crap on the cover. A World record was achieved and no matter what the photo looked like (yeah, I admit that the ground below the formation distracted from the formation), but it was history in the making and was awesome to see that photo.. Parachutist is the mag that represents skydiving in the US and there were a lot of Americans on that record jump, plus all media/publications go down in history. Maybe Parachutist should have put a pic on the front cover showing some guys freeflying out of a plane with goofy looks on their faces, just coz the pic looks better. (I am not slagging off freefliers at all). As people have mentioned, sometimes photos from a big way taken from above do not look the greatest, but maybe next time, the organisers should make a special effort to do the record over water/green fields/desert so that the photo taken from above comes out visually aesthetic for front page publication for skydiving mags.... I am sure there would have been a lot more complaints if the pic hadn't made the front cover. Liz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merkur 1 #47 March 7, 2006 QuoteThere was more then 1 camera flyer. I can personaly think of 4 or 5 that were on it so I guess about 10-12 were probally on it total. 15 in total, with nearly all of them having photos from below and above the formation on the record jump.vSCR No.94 Don't dream your life - live your dream! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 28 #48 March 7, 2006 i got a solution for your problem: apply for vidiot-slot on the next world record and take some kickassneverseenbeforetopnotchqualityshot to be published as the cover for parachutist. how's that? The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #50 March 7, 2006 QuoteA World record was achieved and no matter what the photo looked like (yeah, I admit that the ground below the formation distracted from the formation), but it was history in the making and was awesome to see that photo.. I agree, it is an awesome photo to see. Parachutist is the mag that represents skydiving in the US and there were a lot of Americans on that record jump, plus all media/publications go down in history. Hence the political race to get it on the cover. Does that make the photo a good looking cover for a magazine? Nope. Maybe Parachutist should have put a pic on the front cover showing some guys freeflying out of a plane with goofy looks on their faces, just coz the pic looks better. (I am not slagging off freefliers at all). Maybe so. But I would rather a picture of an Otter sitting on the tarmac at sunrise if it makes a vibrant colorful cover that catches your eye and looks great sitting on your coffee table. As people have mentioned, sometimes photos from a big way taken from above do not look the greatest, but maybe next time, the organisers should make a special effort to do the record over water/green fields/desert so that the photo taken from above comes out visually aesthetic for front page publication for skydiving mags.... Or......they could try harder to use a photo from the jump that WAS colorful and vibrant. There are many. I am sure there would have been a lot more complaints if the pic hadn't made the front cover. All the more reason to do the jump justice with a cover that actually looks good. Figured I would take the time to reply, but all this mumble jumble really has nothing to do with whether the cover is ugly or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites