crashtested 0 #51 January 7, 2008 As Bigway has said, i did get a reply from the distributor, but it did not really give me an answer just a later date as to when they might have info. (this to me was a worry) The post was intended to get me some direct numbers or emails, where i could find out the awnser for myself. I know a bit about sales, and how sometimes the truth and reality are a little bit apart. If it turned out that PDF had 1500 rigs on order from there september offer and they normally turned around 700 rigs a year(i don't know the figure no idea) i would guess that i would not get my rig for some time yet. which would be a little gutting and a really expensive year for me having to spend loads of money on kit hire? I Am getting loads of help on this from loads of people. so a big thanks to you all!! I'll keep everyone uptodate on what happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P-dro 0 #52 January 7, 2008 Quote500 exactly * 3 pieces = 1500 pieces. At their production ratio, it might be a long long wait... Since their target when their factory in South Africa will fully operationnal is 240 rig a month, it may not be as long as some may think... The next weeks will tell us if their are able to reach their objectives... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #53 January 8, 2008 Quote Next time look at http://JumpShack.com/ first. Average wait time is six weeks to anywhere on Planet Earth. With the difference in the US dollar and euro you could come to Deland for Holiday and new gear for less money then you've already paid. Sorry, but most of us don't like fugly looking hippy rigs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #54 January 8, 2008 Quote How about a post that says: "Does anyone have a current number for Parachutes de France? I'm trying to contact them to get an estimated completion date for my rig." I'm just guessing, but that might have gotten you to the same place we are now. Would have been less fun for the rest of us to watch, though. We're not all gifted with the tact and diplomacy of those such as yourself. Btw, missed you and the Monkey by not beeing at Eloy this year. Some hugs your way.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattabram 0 #55 January 16, 2008 Chill!3-4 months is nothing for PdF.I placed my order for a Legend R in November 05 (yes,you read it right!) and I'm still waiting!Not happy about it,but it's the rig I want. The problem happened when they moved the factory from Mauritius to South Africa.Still no excuse,I know. Apparently,a shipment of rigs has arrived in France.Hopefully,mine's in there somewhere.If not,there's another lot coming in next month.However,if you ordered when they offered the free main deal,yours will not be ready until April at the earliest.Otherwise it'll be August,apparently.They took 500 complete rig orders when they offered the free main.Also,communication is crap within PdF.Head office struggle to communicate with the factory. All I can say is hang in there.At least you haven't been waiting 14 months!!!! I know,I must be mad! Good luck .God gave men 2 brains,but only enough blood to fill one at a time....I can live with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crashtested 0 #56 January 16, 2008 It looks like I may have got it in august, but a little bird told me my wait might have been the same as yours - 18 months - DOn't get me wrong i ordered a pdf for the same reasons as you, good quality gear, well made, suits my needs.. and i love the detail.. but its my first rig so i can't afford to wait that long.. i'm looking to make 300 - 400 jumps this year x that by £20 rig hire per jump = massive debt however......... My wonderful distributor is trying to sort somthing else out for me while i wait (a PDF DEMO) or allow me to change choice of companies.. so i'm a happy man now!!! Good luck to PDF though... and i hope your rig arrives soon!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #57 January 17, 2008 matabram is your distributor. HE manages the place you bought it from .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattabram 0 #58 January 17, 2008 Dude,where are you jumping????£20 rig hire is a lot.It's £10 at Hinton including a pack job. Just try not to think about the rig.It's crap weather anyway this time of year so you won't be jumping as much. At the end of the day,it's up to you,but,I'd stick with PdF.In my opinion,it's the best rig on the market in its price range.God gave men 2 brains,but only enough blood to fill one at a time....I can live with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SnurgeMunkey 0 #59 January 17, 2008 Dude, you need to cut your losses now! There are plenty of other very good rig manufacturers out there. I suggest you contact PDF and specifically ask for a completion date, if they can't provide this or they stall/give no response then you have a legitimate right to cancel your order and recieve every penny back you have outlayed. I would not muck around on this. Either they buck up or you cancel. Waiting 18 months for a rig is UNACCEPTABLE!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #60 January 17, 2008 Quote Waiting 18 months for a rig is UNACCEPTABLE!!!! waiting for 18 more months to get a refund is worse scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattabram 0 #61 January 17, 2008 I'm not giving up now!I know there are lots of other decent rigs out there.I thought about the V3 and G4 but can't justify the extra money.(Plus,recently,the finishing quality on the V3 has deteriorated) I've waited 14 months,which I know is unacceptable,but,like I said,it's the container I want,so I'm seeing it through to the bitter end.God gave men 2 brains,but only enough blood to fill one at a time....I can live with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #62 January 18, 2008 You are a strong minded man Matt.I hope you are well mate and seeing the winter through not to painfully. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattabram 0 #63 January 18, 2008 Cheers mate.Hope everything's cool with you,too.Are you still in Oz?You bastard...it's summer out there!!I'm jealous!God gave men 2 brains,but only enough blood to fill one at a time....I can live with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #64 January 18, 2008 Summer??? Really?// No shit, i would not have known that. It is terrible weather out here at the moment. Life is good, got a house with a swimming pool, couple of puppies and a fast as fuk car... just need a bike again. Let us know if you ever come to oz, spare room and car here at your disposal. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattabram 0 #65 January 18, 2008 Thanks for the offer,Gary.Maybe one day!Whereabouts are you?God gave men 2 brains,but only enough blood to fill one at a time....I can live with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattabram 0 #66 February 7, 2008 Holy shit!It's arrived!Now all I've got to do is assemble the fucker,pack it all and see if it fits!At least I've now got a use for the cypres that's been sat in my bag doing nothing for 8 months! BTW build quality is still good,which is a relief. God gave men 2 brains,but only enough blood to fill one at a time....I can live with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mktoson 0 #67 February 7, 2008 I'm sure that you're happy that you finally got it. But 15months is totally unacceptalbe from any company. But now that it's in your hands...you might as well enjoy it. So far, this is the oldest I've ever been. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pywas 0 #68 February 7, 2008 Quote Holy shit!It's arrived!Now all I've got to do is assemble the fucker,pack it all and see if it fits!At least I've now got a use for the cypres that's been sat in my bag doing nothing for 8 months! BTW build quality is still good,which is a relief. Yap, now if you had a cutaway and lost reserve pilot chute you only have to wait another one for 15 months to jumt the rig again A have Atom too, already bought a back up rig Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VincentVL. 0 #69 February 8, 2008 15 months? Fuck me...you could buy a Desmosedici RR and get it sooner than that. Seriously...that's like 200 jumps or something. Imagine having to buy a new container because you want to downsize, when your "new" container arrives. Glad you received it. My word... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crashtested 0 #70 May 9, 2008 Delivery time was put back to august....... Yesterdays news Delivery time is now Late december......... Awesome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #71 May 9, 2008 Merry Christmas! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #72 May 9, 2008 Cancel the order and get something else. With the falling US dollar you can get gear from the States in 8-16 weeks (July - August) and potentially save money even if you figure in the free main offer.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crashtested 0 #73 May 9, 2008 I had no idea PDF only used Santa for there Rig deliverys - maybe i should tell them about DHL!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #74 May 9, 2008 you.I don't know who is worse. the person letting pdf mess them around like this or pdf. cancel your order. it is bullshit what they are doing to you. I am positive maddy will give you a full refund and get you in a nice rig within 4 months. wow this is unbelivable. The pdf guys lurk this website. maybe they should make a post here explaining them selves because right now they have to be considered the most unreliable manufacturers on the planet. 15months for a rig? fuck that right off. I would be pissed off if one of my manufacturers expected me to let one of mu customers know they had to wait that time. what's the bet in december they announce they are bankrupt and can not deliver? get your money back. phone maddy, she will be very understanding. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #75 May 12, 2008 QuoteDelivery time is now Late december......... which year ?? sorry you fell into that trap.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
