pjc 0 #1 January 13, 2008 Anyone come across a slider stop on a crossfire (metal disc thingies) coming unstitched and causing bad openings? My 139 (400 jumps) started getting bad openings just before a linetwist chop 5-6 months ago (this could well have been the cause), I've been getting nasty openings on 9 out of 10 jumps since then. A rigger has just spotted the slider stop being unstitched and floating about in it's pocket this weekend - a few stiches and I'm getting nice on-heading openings again.... most of the time If anyone else is getting dodgy openings on a crossfire, it is worth a quick check that all the stops are all still stitched in place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rover 11 #2 January 13, 2008 Love my canopy but have had the same issue with the slider stops on more than 1 occasion. It causes the slider to hold up and then descend unevenly leading to linetwists.2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SansSuit 1 #3 January 14, 2008 QuoteAnyone come across a slider stop on a crossfire (metal disc thingies) coming unstitched and causing bad openings? .... a few stiches and I'm getting nice on-heading openings again.... most of the time. I had the same thing happen on an Icarus Omni. (Shhhhh. Don't tell anyone, but I fixed it myself.) Peace, -Jeff.Peace, -Dawson. http://www.SansSuit.com The Society for the Advancement of Naked Skydiving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
everymansaved 0 #4 January 14, 2008 No need to shhhh, it's a main, you can do whatever you want to it!God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjc 0 #5 January 14, 2008 So it's not just a 1 off then, looks like this could be a weak point on Icarus Canopies. I think I'll get some reinforcement stitching put on all 4 stops! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER 0 #6 January 19, 2008 Does your canopy is made by NZAS or Icarus Spain ? Please advise. thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjc 0 #7 January 20, 2008 AFAIK it's NZAS. It's approx 2 yrs old and has ~400 jumps Do Icarus still make canopies in Spain? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #8 January 20, 2008 Don't make me come up there and ground your nekkid ass. “The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER 0 #9 January 20, 2008 Thanks. Well, I found many NZAS main canopies having that issue with the slider stops disks coming out from the small locked area & moving free under the white tape on the stab. In one case I was reported that the metal disc got lost on deployment. The nylon thread that ICARUS canopies use for the main sport canopies is # 60 Nylon thread which is less strong then the # 40 / size "E" / 69 & which could be a reason for the broken stitches around the disc. ICARUS Spain have a different sewing method at the disc area - they put the disc into a Ty.12 webbing under the white tape, sew around & bartack at the top disc area to eliminate the disc from sliding out, but also Nylon #60 thread. I contacted both factories for that & wondering why on same canopy there are 2 setting ways. Also be aware that if your NZAS main line tabs bartacks or line to stab. attachment bartacks are ONE side start/stop bartack you might see the start/stop point showing broken # 60 silver thread I saw that as well on canopies with that 42 stitches bartack - one more reason to move to center/stop bartack. NZAS use now the center/stop 42 bartack on the line tabs. I hope that helps. Be Safe !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aykay 0 #10 January 22, 2008 QuoteAnyone come across a slider stop on a crossfire (metal disc thingies) coming unstitched and causing bad openings? ... If anyone else is getting dodgy openings on a crossfire, it is worth a quick check that all the stops are all still stitched in place. That happened on mine as well. Came close to chopping twice as the canopy was spinning up pretty good. Fixed it and now its sweet. Mine broke on the right rear line group. Which was it on yours. Im just wondering if there is a bias towards the front or rear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites