Vallerina 2 #1 March 3, 2006 I'm curious as to what you all think of gender differences; are there differences because that's how society shapes us, or are the differences inherent? It could be both (ie, men are usually physically stronger which affects things that they do, and hence creates a gender role.) Some gender differences change over time. For example, women my mother's age tend to be better cooks than men that age, but men my age tend to be better cooks than women my age. It also seems that women in today's society participate more in sports, and I know most people my age don't consider sports to be a "guy thing" when most women have participated in one themselves. Because of things like this, I tend to think that most differences are because of society. However, maybe some differences really are inherent. For example, I haven't really seen many transgenders who dress like the gender they were born into. When a man wants to be a woman, a big part of that is wearing make up, having long hair and wearing women's clothes. It's hard to believe that they feel the need from society to do that to be a woman. Also, cross-cultural studies done have shown similar attributes amongst women and similar ones amongst men. We all know that men and women can do mostly the same things. Men will be able to lift more weight, and women will be the ones having babies. For the most part, though, it seems as though there really shouldn't be many gender differences. It still shocks me when guys will say things like, "Women focus too much on their careers," or "Chicks are just like that, aren't they?" I cringe when I hear my female acquaintances say things like, "Doesn't he understand that I'm a girl, and I don't like things like that?" Yes, it is always better to focus on the person than on the gender...but maybe that's too easy! Figuring out millions of people at a time just makes good sense!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #2 March 3, 2006 One thing that annoys me about gender differences are showers. At work and in lockerrooms across America women have their own individual stalls, where as men have to use group showering faclilties. I want my own stall damn it. I don't need to see every other guys tallywhacker.Divot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #3 March 3, 2006 We're all cramming into the stalls! Actually, that does seem a bit unfair.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegreekone 0 #4 March 3, 2006 I think there is value, at least here, in making a distinction between sex and gender. Yeah, society and our "culture" shapes us, but I think it is much more interesting, given that we as skydivers exist in a fringe or sub-culture, how our ideas are shaped (or not) by society. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #5 March 3, 2006 It's both. Our socialization will change (and has changed) within our time, but our biology won't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #6 March 3, 2006 QuoteI'm curious as to what you all think of gender differences... I like boobies.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #7 March 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteI'm curious as to what you all think of gender differences... I like boobies. Me too!!! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #8 March 3, 2006 Why is is that females can experiment with eachother, but if a man does anything with another man he is gay?Divot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #9 March 3, 2006 QuoteWhy is is that females can experiment with eachother, but if a man does anything with another man he is gay? Yeah! And if you tell a woman she is so much like a guy you mean it as a compliment, but if a guy hears he's like a woman, it's an insult! (Though, if he hears that he's metrosexual, that's okay.)There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #10 March 3, 2006 Quote (Though, if he hears that he's metrosexual, that's okay.) No its not... cause that's basically the same thing as this... ***but if a guy hears he's like a woman, it's an insult!Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #11 March 3, 2006 Some of my guy friends are proud to be metrosexual! Yes, the women do go to one of our guy friends for fashion advice. Yes, he's very straight. I still wear clothes I bought 5 years ago!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #12 March 3, 2006 QuoteSome of my guy friends are proud to be metrosexual! Yes, the women do go to one of our guy friends for fashion advice. Yes, he's very straight. Yeah but is he getting any... and for what's it's worth, I'm clueless w/regard to fashion...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #13 March 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteSome of my guy friends are proud to be metrosexual! Yes, the women do go to one of our guy friends for fashion advice. Yes, he's very straight. Yeah but is he getting any... and for what's it's worth, I'm clueless w/regard to fashion... He's getting more than anyone else I know. (He was passed out drunk with crap written all over his face, and a girl asked me if he was taken...yes, he gets women to hit on him when he's not even trying!)There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #14 March 3, 2006 QuoteHe's getting more than anyone else I know. (He was passed out drunk with crap written all over his face, and a girl asked me if he was taken...yes, he get women to hit on him when he's not even trying!) Is there any chance I could... um... get some pointers from him... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #15 March 3, 2006 There are stereotypical roles, but people usually don't apply them unless they are to their advantage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #16 March 3, 2006 QuoteThere are stereotypical roles, but people usually don't apply them unless they are to their advantage. Damn. That's just about the truest statement I've ever read. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #17 March 3, 2006 QuoteThere are stereotypical roles, but people usually don't apply them unless they are to their advantage. So, people are manipulative? That's crap but sometimes true!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlkskycam 0 #18 March 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteI'm curious as to what you all think of gender differences... I like boobies. Doesn't everyone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #19 March 3, 2006 QuoteAnd if you tell a woman she is so much like a guy you mean it as a compliment, but if a guy hears he's like a woman, it's an insult! True, true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #20 March 3, 2006 Quote Yeah! And if you tell a woman she is so much like a guy you mean it as a compliment, but if a guy hears he's like a woman, it's an insult! (Though, if he hears that he's metrosexual, that's okay.) Women are said to be trying to act like men when they try to act like human beings. Simone De Beauvoir - Second Sex (not an exact quote) Many of the characteristics that are assigned to males roles are actually just the characteristics of adults. Having those characteristics or lacking them is certainly a judgement. Of course, a sexist one based on 100 years ago, when self-reliance meant lifting a wagon wheel, not tele-conferencing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #21 March 3, 2006 QuoteMany of the characteristics that are assigned to males roles are actually just the characteristics of adults. That's because males (and white ones) pretty much define what adults are. Daddies and mommies like their little girls to be sweet, and love it when they can take care of her, and have her appreciation. They don't throw her to the wolves, they help her, and are always there for her in ways that they aren't there for boys. Then one day those little girls grow up. They marry (very commonly). Sometimes they divorce, and they still have to deal with the kinds of people whom their parents and husbands protected them from all those years. They can do it. But when you've been reminded all your life that you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar, that girls are sugar and spice and everything nice, and are given concrete evidence, then, welll, it goes against how you've been raised, and you end up either losing self-respect because you were "rude," or you lose on the deal because you were "nice." Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #22 March 3, 2006 then quit being a sausage gazer!!! J/K Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #23 March 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteHe's getting more than anyone else I know. (He was passed out drunk with crap written all over his face, and a girl asked me if he was taken...yes, he get women to hit on him when he's not even trying!) Is there any chance I could... um... get some pointers from him... Yeah try not to judge women for their behavior or throw things in their face later on and be honest with them....then you will get more than you have time for... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #24 March 3, 2006 QuoteMany of the characteristics that are assigned to males roles are actually just the characteristics of adults. And many of the characteristics that are assigned to female roles are actually just the characteristics of adults. I don't think it's better to be typical male than it is to be typical female. Luckily, most of us reside in the gray area between complete masculinity and femininity. Another random note on gender differences....some of it may be a self-fulfilling prophecy. I find it funny when a guy will complain that all women care about is how much money a guy has, and then he tries to hit on women by showing off how much money he has. When that's the part of you that you're trying to sell, well, you're going to attract people who want to buy.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buried 0 #25 March 3, 2006 QuoteWe're all cramming into the stalls! Actually, that does seem a bit unfair. hey, it saves costs Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
