How many riggers still pack round reserves

[riggerrob 643]

(By the way, regarding pilot emergency rigs with lines in the pack tray: I don't know all the rigs well, but I think modern emergency rigs usually have full stow diapers. National, Butler, GQ, and Paraphernalia/FFE do it that way. Strong is a holdout with lines in the pack tray and a Type II line equalization diaper.)

[AMT 0]

I've heard some negatives about the strong diaper, specifically line entanglement on deployment potentially causing it to lock.

I have some seats and 1980's back type I (nb8, etc) that I wore, and sometimes still do, I didnt consider them fatal, I like the C9's...though butlers diaper on a 28' in a new rig is very appealing.

I think the military still uses type I on a flat 24'...I think?

[riggerrob 643]

I think the military still uses type I on a flat 24'...I think?

[AMT 0]

agree, I dont mind the type I in the PT17 or a T34 or even SNJ, but I wouldnt want it in an L39, strongs harness restraint system can use a C9 but I dont think they use a diaper, softie offers that option, and I like it. Orderly deployment on a durable canopy, I will accept the additional bulk.

[mark 107]

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Yes, but remember that 24 flats are designed for low-speed deployments.
Low speed deployments are far more forgiving of sloppy packing methods.
With military static-line systems, you have a 99.99999 percent chance of having a partially-inflated main overhead before you need to deploy a 24 flat.

Additionally, the 24 flat is intended for use in addition to, not instead of, the main canopy. In the event of a main malfunction, the reserve is hand-deployed: thrown down and in the direction of spin. With Type 1 deployment, the canopy begins to fill right away, and line extension is much faster because the drag of the inflating canopy is much greater than the drag of a diapered canopy.

Inflation in that situation is still quite slow, as I can attest from experience.

Mark

[Andy9o8 2]

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I think the military still uses type I on a flat 24'...I think?

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Yes, but remember that 24 flats are designed for low-speed deployments.
Low speed deployments are far more forgiving of sloppy packing methods.
With military static-line systems, you have a 99.99999 percent chance of having a partially-inflated main overhead before you need to deploy a 24 flat.

That being said, they have saved many a civilian life on terminal deployments with nothing else out - as my existing to type this today attests.

[JerryBaumchen 1,363]

Hi Andy,

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That being said, they have saved many a civilian life on terminal deployments with nothing else out - as my existing to type this today attests.

Put me down for that, only change it to twice,

JerryBaumchen