AirPilot 0 #1 February 4, 2008 I am 150 lbs., male, 5'10", class B, need precision landings, soft openings, and soft landings, and must operate in 10 to 20 mph wind. What size canopy would be best ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Copycat 0 #2 February 4, 2008 In no way I could give you a professional opinion, but my guess nonetheless would be a Spectre 170 - 190, with your amount of jumps and needs My previous canopy was a Spectre 170 and I absolutely loved it: very predictable and slow, soft openings, great precision landing (smoothest landings I've ever had! started braking high and pulled fully before touchdown, it was feather-like). Only (very big) disadvantage was absolutely no wind penetration. I almost felt going backwards with moderate up wind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #3 February 4, 2008 One source of information: http://www.bigairsportz.com/pdf/bas-sizingchart.pdf"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirPilot 0 #4 February 4, 2008 Thanks for your experience. You had a 170 spectre and had little forward velocity, in what speed wind and how much do you weigh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirPilot 0 #5 February 4, 2008 Thanks for the chart, but how do I figure "exit weight" vs body weight? Also this chart does not consider wind conditions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,558 #6 February 4, 2008 QuoteThanks for the chart, but how do I figure "exit weight" vs body weight? Also this chart does not consider wind conditions? Adding 20, 25 pounds for kit is probably about right. The chart doesn't consider wind conditions because wind conditions shouldn't be a priority in choosing a safely sized canopy. Choose the canopy that you can handle, not the one with loads of forward speed for great penetration.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #7 February 4, 2008 Add about 20 - 25 Lbs. to body wait for exit weight (rig/helmet/Suit Etc.). You should probally be looking for a 170. I jump a Sabre 2, and like it alot. I own new gear, but if that is a problem for you then you should get something used to get you started. About wind, you should not be jumping in to high of wind. My personal limit is 24 MPH, but you should make your own limit up. Say maybe 20 MPH or less. Jumping in windy conditions only presents more problems. But most important talk to the exp. jumpers/instructors who know you best.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirPilot 0 #8 February 4, 2008 Thanks...does not seem like 20 lbs. on my back. Wind is a factor where I jump, on the shore of Lake Erie, the wind is always 10-20 mph. Is precision effected by canopy size or design ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyninja 0 #9 February 4, 2008 Quoteneed precision landings, soft openings, and soft landings, and must operate in 10 to 20 mph wind You do realize that most of this is dependent on your packing and canopy piloting skills, right?Why don't you just play 'chicken' on the railroad tracks? It would be a cheaper way to toy with death, I'm sure. CWR #2 - "You SAID collision!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladydyver 0 #10 February 4, 2008 QuoteThanks...does not seem like 20 lbs. on my back. Wind is a factor where I jump, on the shore of Lake Erie, the wind is always 10-20 mph. Is precision effected by canopy size or design ? Have you talked to your instructors at all. They may be better at answering this question for you - they know your skill level as well as the conditions that you are jumping in. Take a canopy control course once you figure all of this out as well.DPH # 2 "I am not sure what you are suppose to do with that, but I don't think it is suppose to flop around like that." ~Skootz~ I have a strong regard for the rules.......doc! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Programmer 0 #11 February 4, 2008 An instructor who has watched you land and is familiar with local conditions and landing areas would be best qualified to answer this. I assume you've gotten some local advice and are just looking for a wider range of opinions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,558 #12 February 4, 2008 QuoteIs precision effected by canopy size or design ? It's pretty much all you.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Copycat 0 #13 February 4, 2008 Quote Is precision effected by canopy size or design ? Yes. 9 cells have more forward speed (and thus, wind penetration) A 7 cell has less forward speed, so you can pinpoint a target better. Size just will matter only because of the increased response and vertical speed on same-type canopies. Demo a Spectre 170, you won't regret that canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #14 February 4, 2008 QuoteYes. 9 cells have more forward speed (and thus, wind penetration) A 7 cell has less forward speed, so you can pinpoint a target better. Size just will matter only because of the increased response and vertical speed on same-type canopies. Nine cells do not "have more forward speed" than 7 cells. They have a flatter glide slope. A good canopy pilot can put any canopy exactly where they want to, regardless of wind conditions. It has nothing to do with how many cells the canopy has. It has everything to do with the skill set of the pilot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #15 February 4, 2008 If wind is not a factor in choosing an airplane to fly ,why should it be one in choosing a canopy to fly? Precision landings come with experience and understanding canopy flight. Any canopy can be landed on a dime, some just take more experience then others.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denete 3 #16 February 22, 2008 QuoteThanks for the chart, but how do I figure "exit weight" vs body weight? How did you get your A license? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #17 February 22, 2008 Judging from all the rigs this guy is buying sight unseen off the internet he is obviously ready for a 117... something hot! Or a tandem canopy... I haven't made up my mind yet. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites