The images in "Thirteen Ghosts"

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

I just put on the DVD of "Thirteen Ghosts" again (I just wanted something to watch, and I like the horror effects and Matthew Lillard cracks me up).

In the first scene, when they capture "The Breaker," Matthew Lillard puts his hand on the ground and psychically senses the deaths of his victims.

Some of the flashy, single-frame shots of the dead victims are hokey, but some of them have that "dead on the scene" grisly realism to them, like the pictures on websites about death.

I was wondering, do you think some of them, like the half-naked woman in bed with the shotgun-blast-lookin' wound in her belly, were real dead people, used maybe like stock footage?

Sorry, just morbidly curious.

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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[mailin 0]

I didn't think that crime scene photos could become stock footage for the entertainment industry - isn't it somehow protected?

I'd be upset to know that even after a murder case was 'solved' that the pictures were released to the general public for their use.

I enjoyed the movie though

Jen

Arianna Frances

[AlexCrowley 0]

Don't think I'm paying attention to your actual question.

In general most makeup FX guys either have hands on experience with death or study medical and war materials.

Tom Savini, makeup guy on the Romero zombie movies, was a medic in vietnam, as were some of his peers.

The Rob Bottin era (The Thing, Re-animator) in the 80s was fueled by studying Tom's movies and then reading everything one could from medical case files and crime scene photos to try and get that realism.

In general if you're watching an image of someone gutshot it's modelled on how it really looks.

So rather than answering your infantile question, the truth is that the effects are based on real images or real experiences of the fx guys.

TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking.

[GTAVercetti 0]

That should provoke a pretty sweet response.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

[thegreekone 0]

So rather than answering your infantile question, the truth is that the effects are based on real images or real experiences of the fx guys.

[AlexCrowley 0]

More from the Book of Bill:

" Hey, man. Killer idea. You guys like going to the movies? You... you do? Three of you do? I love the fucking movies. Love 'em. Now I'm watching 'Terminator 2', did ya'll see that movie? Well, I'm watching, and I'm thinking to myself, You know what? There's no way they're ever gonna be able to top these stunts in a movie again, you cannot top this shit. Unless... They start using terminally ill people as stunt men in pictures. Well, hear me out. Because I know to some of you, this may sound a little cruel: "Aw, Bill. Terminally ill stunt people-that's cruel." You know what I think cruel is? Leaving your loved ones to die in some sterile hospital room surrounded by strangers. Fuck that! Put 'em in the movies! What? You want your grandmother dying like a little bird in some hospital room, her translucent skin so thin you can see her last heartbeat work its way down her blue veins? Or do you want her to meet Chuck Norris? Hey, how come you dressed my grandmother up as a mugger? Shut up and get off the set. Action! Push her towards Chuck! (Karate noises) Wow, he kicked her head right off her body! Did you see that? Did you see my Grammy? She's out of her misery, you've seen the greatest film of all time! I'm still feeling some resistance to this, man. What's up? You and your fake fucking sympathy. Okay, how about these guys who're being executed? Don't do that. Poison, electrocute-how cruel! And unimaginative! Put 'em in the movies! Jeffery Dahmer, for your crimes against humanity, of which you've been found guilty, I sentence you to Wes Craven's next picture! Bwahahaha! Ahh! Ahh! Okay, not one of my more popular theories. But just do me a big favor-don't ever say you love film as much as I do. I think we found your limit."

TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking.

[thegreekone 0]

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More from the Book of Bill:

THAT induced belly-shaking laughter.

Sorta reminds me of what Sam Fuller said about making combat movies.

"You can NEVER duplicate combat in a movie! Even if you paraded wounded back and forth and shot live ammunition over the audience's you STILL wouldn't get it right!"

fuckin guy.....
"The Naked Kiss"
"Shock Corridor"
and "The BIg Red One" should be required viewing.

no, REALLY.