Has "tipping" gone to far or am I just cheap?

[TypicalFish 0]

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I tip my bartender.

You did?

"I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET

[aftermid 0]

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If the service is terrible, and by terrible I mean something completely unacceptable not run of the mill BS, I can see withholding a little bit. But don't be an anally cheap asshole.

A tip is a reward for doing a GOOD job, not something that is owed regardless of the quality of service received. Any waiter/waitress/etc who thinks they still deserve a tip after treating me like shit is a moron, period. If someone wants to make a decent living, they can work for it just like everyone else.

Giving a tip to a shitty employee in the service industry is the same thing as giving a bonus to a shitty employee in an office job or any other field. It's fucking stupid, and anyone who is a decent employee in a field where tips are customary would agree.

A tip isn't a reward and it isn't a bonus. It is part of the cost of eating out. It's one thing if the waiter or waitress is rude and gives you shitty service, but it is unacceptable to punish them for things they have no control over or to withhold it as some sort of self-rightious critique. Why not show a little compassion?

For the most part they get taxed on the assumption of 12% tips. If you don't tip then they are paying for to wait on you. Not tipping isn't withholding a bonus, it is like charging an employee to come to work.

I've had service where the waiter/waitress was so rude and terrible that they deserved to lose money on me, but for the most part it isn't worth screwing someone over to save a couple bucks.

We all have bad days and we're all human. I figure, I like doing lots of dangerous stuff, I might as well keep my karma as good as possible. Who knows when I might not be as fortunate as I am now and might need others to extend me compassion when I'm having a bad day.

[padalcek 9]

most cruise lines pay waiters and busboys around $50/month.
bartenders and cabin stewards get a little bit more.
head waiters, maitre d' and others get enough. not to mention that they usually take 'tax' from waiters and busboys.
next time you're on a cruise pay attention to how many tables your waiter and busboy are taking care of.
count the people at those tables and multiply by suggested tip.
divide that amount by number of hours they have actually worked during the cruise.
still think it's too much for serving you three meals a day (not to mention midnight buffets etc.)?

Padalcek - CCO, HF-17
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[ffejdraga 0]

Two ideas to tipping:

1. Anyone ever see the episode of 3rd Rock from the Sun, where John Lithgow and Jane Curtain go out to dinner, and the subject of tipping copmes up? Well, in it, John Lithgow has an idea how it should work. He told the waiter up front that they expected to spend a certain amount, and he pulls out a pile of ones, saying it represents 20% of the meal cost. He then tells the waiter it is all for him provided he doesn't screw up. The money is left on the table, and everytime the waiter messes something up, John takes another dollar from the pile. Oh sorry, you didn't bring our drinks, there goes another dollar. It was a great concept, but probably only works for Aliens that look just like humans

2. the classic:

EDDIE
All right. Everybody cough up some green for the little lady.

Come on. Throw in a buck.

MR. PINK
Uh-uh. I don't tip.

EDDIE
You don't tip?

MR. PINK
No - I don't believe in it.

EDDIE
You don't believe in tipping?

MR. BLUE
You know what these chicks make? They make shit.

MR. PINK
Don't give me that. She don't make enough money, she can quit.

EDDIE
I don't even know a fucking Jew who'd have the balls to say that. Let me just get this straight. You don't ever tip, huh?

MR. PINK
I don't tip because society says I have to. Alright, I mean I'll tip if somebody really deserves a tip, if they really put forth the effort, I'll give 'em something extra, but I mean this tipping automatically is for the birds.
I mean as far as I'm concerned they're just doing their job.

MR. BLUE
Hey, this girl was nice.

MR. PINK
She was OK - but she wasn't anything special.

MR. BLUE
What's special, take you in the back and suck your dick?

EDDIE
I'd go over 12% for that.

MR. PINK
Hey Look, I ordered coffee, right? Now we've been here a long fuckin time, and she's only filled my cup three times. When I order coffee, I want it filled six times

MR. BLONDE
Six times? Well, you know, what if she's too fucking busy?

MR. PINK
Words "too fucking busy" shouldn't be in a waitress' vocabulary.

EDDIE
Excuse me, Mr. Pink - the last fucking thing you need's another cup of coffee.

MR. PINK
Jesus Christ - I mean these ladies aren't starving to death. They make minimum wage. You know, I used to work minimum wage. And when I did, I wasn't lucky enough to have a job society deemed tip-worthy.

MR. BLUE
You don't care they're counting on your tips to live?

(Mr. Pink rubs two of his fingers together.)

MR. PINK
You know what this is? It's the world's smallest violin playing just for the waitresses.

MR. WHITE
You don't have any idea what you're talking about. These people bust their ass. This is a hard job.

MR. PINK
So's working at McDonald's, but you don't feel the need to tip them, do you? Why not? They're servin ya food. But no, society says don't tip these guys over here, but tip these guys over here. That's bullshit.

MR. WHITE
Waitressing is the number one occupation for female noncollege graduates in this country. It's the one job basically any woman can get and make a living on. The reason is because of their tips.

MR. PINK
(pauses) Fuck all that.

(They all laugh.)

MR. BROWN
Jesus Christ!

MR. PINK
Hey, I'm very sorry that the government taxes their tips. That's fucked up. That ain't my fault. It would appear that waitresses are just one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. You show me a paper says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non-college bullshit you're giving me, I got two words for that: "Learn to fuckin type." Cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent, you're in for a big fuckin' surprise.

MR. ORANGE
Hey - he's convinced me. Give me my dollar back.

EDDIE
Hey! Leave the dollars there.

JOE
All right, ramblers, let's get ramblin'. Wait a minute. Who didn't throw in?

MR. ORANGE
Mr. Pink.

JOE
Mr. Pink? Why not?

MR. ORANGE
He don't tip.

JOE
He don't tip? What do you mean you don't tip?

MR. ORANGE
He don't believe in it.

JOE
Shut up. What do you mean you don't believe in it? Come on, you, cough up a buck, you cheap bastard. I paid for your goddamn breakfast.

MR. PINK
Alright - since you paid for the breakfast, I'll put in, but normally I would never do this.

JOE
Never mind what you normally would do. Just cough in your goddamn buck like everybody else. Thank you


carry on.
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