Tonto 1 #1 January 18, 2006 All the threads about buzzing canopies with wingsuits made me think of this one... tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #2 January 18, 2006 "It's an attitude thing" but that comes with (real) time in the sport I feel.Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #3 January 18, 2006 Not me! Good thing too!Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #4 January 18, 2006 I can't believe you did that as an age poll. What were you thinking? There are people who are now starting to skydive in their 40s and 50s. An old-timer is someone with a minimum of 20 years in the sport, and I wouldn't even hesitate to up that figure to 25. Not to mention that if anyone dares to call me an old-timer, I'm comin' after them. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carbonezone 0 #5 January 18, 2006 I have heard lots of people refer to old timers as F.O.G's (F@ucking Old Guys). I personally love that one and use it often when Scotty gets going on some old time stories......or just flat out starts "acts like one" <> Tami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 January 18, 2006 QuoteNot to mention that if anyone dares to call me an old-timer, I'm comin' after them. Oh, c'mon......you can't make it THAT easy.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #7 January 18, 2006 QuoteAn old-timer is someone with a minimum of 20 years in the sport, and I wouldn't even hesitate to up that figure to 25. Gee, thanks a bunch rl! I didnt feel "old" until you pointed that out Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #8 January 18, 2006 QuoteI can't believe you did that as an age poll. What were you thinking? There are people who are now starting to skydive in their 40s and 50s. An old-timer is someone with a minimum of 20 years in the sport, and I wouldn't even hesitate to up that figure to 25. Not to mention that if anyone dares to call me an old-timer, I'm comin' after them. rl I'm an old timer. You, RL, are ageless. (But you're still welcome to come after me if you want.) Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Peej 0 #9 January 18, 2006 Quote"It's an attitude thing" but that comes with (real) time in the sport I feel. I agree. I don't think i've ever used it to refer to someone though and unfortnately i get the sense that it's often a derogatory term. What i like about a lot of the "old timers" that i know is that they aren't set in their ways, they're all about trying out wingsuits, freefly and other "new fangled" elements of our sport. I have a lot of respect for people who even though they have many years in the sport are keen to keep moving with it. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tonto 1 #10 January 18, 2006 QuoteI can't believe you did that as an age poll. What were you thinking? An old-timer is someone with a minimum of 20 years in the sport, and I wouldn't even hesitate to up that figure to 25. So... on your calculations.. someone who started at 18 would be an old timer around... 43 years old? Calling me an old timer? tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RhondaLea 4 #11 January 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteNot to mention that if anyone dares to call me an old-timer, I'm comin' after them. Oh, c'mon......you can't make it THAT easy. For you, anything. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RhondaLea 4 #12 January 18, 2006 QuoteSo... on your calculations.. someone who started at 18 would be an old timer around... 43 years old? Calling me an old timer? Exactly. Under my theory, even though my age is greater than yours, I am not an old-timer. I like that. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #13 January 18, 2006 QuoteAn old-timer is someone with a minimum of 20 years in the sport, and I wouldn't even hesitate to up that figure to 25. Agree, because I think this implies a few things: 1 - has jumped a round as a main 2 - knows how to spot 3 - doesn't call an exit from 4K a Hop & Pop, isn't nervous to exit below 2K either 4 - knows how to pack and spot 5 - likely jumped with almost no 'real' training 6 - knows how to pack a round 7 - tells good stories 8 - knows how to spot and pack 9 - skydived when it wasn't really mainstream 10 - knows how to pack and spot 11 - thinks fondly of Cessnas, 12 - tells good stories 13 - has maybe quit the sport for periods longer than most people are in the sport - always came back 14 - thought passing a baton was hard 15 - has worn freefall suits that you could fit a bean bag chair in with him ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #14 January 18, 2006 Rehmwa, You ARE the man! Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,534 #15 January 18, 2006 Whew. I'm not an old-timer. I don't tell particularly good stories But here's another take on the issue Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #16 January 18, 2006 Someone older than me! Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #17 January 18, 2006 Quote I agree. I don't think i've ever used it to refer to someone though and unfortnately i get the sense that it's often a derogatory term. Really? I think the term "old timer" is kind of a compliment. I jump with a few guys who've been skydiving for 30-40+ years, and I see that experience as something interesting and positive. That said, I guess I kind of agree with RL...it's time in sport (with a reasonable number of jumps) more than age. I've had students and novices substantially older than me who I've occasionally referred to as "kids", and one guy I refer to as an old-timer isn't *that* much older than me...we snowboard, wakeboard, rockclimb, and skydive together, so he's definitely not fossilized. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites upndownshop 0 #18 January 18, 2006 QuoteI can't believe you did that as an age poll. What were you thinking? There are people who are now starting to skydive in their 40s and 50s. An old-timer is someone with a minimum of 20 years in the sport, and I wouldn't even hesitate to up that figure to 25. Not to mention that if anyone dares to call me an old-timer, I'm comin' after them. rl So does that make me an old timer? I was born into the sport but I am only 38. Although I am starting to feel older but now, you have made me think.. There are a bunch of folks in here much older and more experienced, even though i do of course have my share of experience i wouldnt even began to put myself in the ranks of those "real" old timers, (not really referring to their age, but experience) help me on this...not ready to get old...lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #19 January 18, 2006 QuoteWhew. I'm not an old-timer. I don't tell particularly good stories But here's another take on the issue Wendy W. Busted! Wendy, I remember hanging around at Bill Lee's loft with you (in a tie dye t-shirt, I might add) and Bill trading stories about the old days. I'd do it again any time. You tell good stories. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #20 January 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteAn old-timer is someone with a minimum of 20 years in the sport, and I wouldn't even hesitate to up that figure to 25. Agree, because I think this implies a few things: 1 - has jumped a round as a main 2 - knows how to spot 3 - doesn't call an exit from 4K a Hop & Pop, isn't nervous to exit below 2K either 4 - knows how to pack and spot 5 - likely jumped with almost no 'real' training 6 - knows how to pack a round 7 - tells good stories 8 - knows how to spot and pack 9 - skydived when it wasn't really mainstream 10 - knows how to pack and spot 11 - thinks fondly of Cessnas, 12 - tells good stories 13 - has maybe quit the sport for periods longer than most people are in the sport - always came back 14 - thought passing a baton was hard 15 - has worn freefall suits that you could fit a bean bag chair in with him *** Yeah! And don't forget...we know how to SPOT! Don't know about the 'Tells good stories' thing though! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #21 January 18, 2006 QuoteDon't know about the 'Tells good stories' thing though! 'twardo? Do you have any good stories about the old days? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #22 January 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteDon't know about the 'Tells good stories' thing though! 'twardo? Do you have any good stories about the old days? Quote Funny you should ask, don't really know any good stories but.....ever tell ya 'bout the time.....! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #23 January 18, 2006 How about: Considers the phrase "spot for your reserve, not your main" to be a timeless piece of wisdom. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites OATSF14 0 #24 January 18, 2006 QuoteAn old-timer is someone with a minimum of 20 years in the sport, and I wouldn't even hesitate to up that figure to 25. Agreed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites OATSF14 0 #25 January 18, 2006 Agree, because I think this implies a few things: Quote1 - has jumped a round as a main 2 - knows how to spot 3 - doesn't call an exit from 4K a Hop & Pop, isn't nervous to exit below 2K either 4 - knows how to pack and spot 5 - likely jumped with almost no 'real' training 6 - knows how to pack a round 7 - tells good stories 8 - knows how to spot and pack 9 - skydived when it wasn't really mainstream 10 - knows how to pack and spot 11 - thinks fondly of Cessnas, 12 - tells good stories 13 - has maybe quit the sport for periods longer than most people are in the sport - always came back 14 - thought passing a baton was hard 15 - has worn freefall suits that you could fit a bean bag chair in with him Done them all. Oh well.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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waltappel 1 #8 January 18, 2006 QuoteI can't believe you did that as an age poll. What were you thinking? There are people who are now starting to skydive in their 40s and 50s. An old-timer is someone with a minimum of 20 years in the sport, and I wouldn't even hesitate to up that figure to 25. Not to mention that if anyone dares to call me an old-timer, I'm comin' after them. rl I'm an old timer. You, RL, are ageless. (But you're still welcome to come after me if you want.) Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #9 January 18, 2006 Quote"It's an attitude thing" but that comes with (real) time in the sport I feel. I agree. I don't think i've ever used it to refer to someone though and unfortnately i get the sense that it's often a derogatory term. What i like about a lot of the "old timers" that i know is that they aren't set in their ways, they're all about trying out wingsuits, freefly and other "new fangled" elements of our sport. I have a lot of respect for people who even though they have many years in the sport are keen to keep moving with it. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #10 January 18, 2006 QuoteI can't believe you did that as an age poll. What were you thinking? An old-timer is someone with a minimum of 20 years in the sport, and I wouldn't even hesitate to up that figure to 25. So... on your calculations.. someone who started at 18 would be an old timer around... 43 years old? Calling me an old timer? tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #11 January 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteNot to mention that if anyone dares to call me an old-timer, I'm comin' after them. Oh, c'mon......you can't make it THAT easy. For you, anything. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #12 January 18, 2006 QuoteSo... on your calculations.. someone who started at 18 would be an old timer around... 43 years old? Calling me an old timer? Exactly. Under my theory, even though my age is greater than yours, I am not an old-timer. I like that. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #13 January 18, 2006 QuoteAn old-timer is someone with a minimum of 20 years in the sport, and I wouldn't even hesitate to up that figure to 25. Agree, because I think this implies a few things: 1 - has jumped a round as a main 2 - knows how to spot 3 - doesn't call an exit from 4K a Hop & Pop, isn't nervous to exit below 2K either 4 - knows how to pack and spot 5 - likely jumped with almost no 'real' training 6 - knows how to pack a round 7 - tells good stories 8 - knows how to spot and pack 9 - skydived when it wasn't really mainstream 10 - knows how to pack and spot 11 - thinks fondly of Cessnas, 12 - tells good stories 13 - has maybe quit the sport for periods longer than most people are in the sport - always came back 14 - thought passing a baton was hard 15 - has worn freefall suits that you could fit a bean bag chair in with him ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #14 January 18, 2006 Rehmwa, You ARE the man! Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #15 January 18, 2006 Whew. I'm not an old-timer. I don't tell particularly good stories But here's another take on the issue Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #16 January 18, 2006 Someone older than me! Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #17 January 18, 2006 Quote I agree. I don't think i've ever used it to refer to someone though and unfortnately i get the sense that it's often a derogatory term. Really? I think the term "old timer" is kind of a compliment. I jump with a few guys who've been skydiving for 30-40+ years, and I see that experience as something interesting and positive. That said, I guess I kind of agree with RL...it's time in sport (with a reasonable number of jumps) more than age. I've had students and novices substantially older than me who I've occasionally referred to as "kids", and one guy I refer to as an old-timer isn't *that* much older than me...we snowboard, wakeboard, rockclimb, and skydive together, so he's definitely not fossilized. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #18 January 18, 2006 QuoteI can't believe you did that as an age poll. What were you thinking? There are people who are now starting to skydive in their 40s and 50s. An old-timer is someone with a minimum of 20 years in the sport, and I wouldn't even hesitate to up that figure to 25. Not to mention that if anyone dares to call me an old-timer, I'm comin' after them. rl So does that make me an old timer? I was born into the sport but I am only 38. Although I am starting to feel older but now, you have made me think.. There are a bunch of folks in here much older and more experienced, even though i do of course have my share of experience i wouldnt even began to put myself in the ranks of those "real" old timers, (not really referring to their age, but experience) help me on this...not ready to get old...lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #19 January 18, 2006 QuoteWhew. I'm not an old-timer. I don't tell particularly good stories But here's another take on the issue Wendy W. Busted! Wendy, I remember hanging around at Bill Lee's loft with you (in a tie dye t-shirt, I might add) and Bill trading stories about the old days. I'd do it again any time. You tell good stories. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #20 January 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteAn old-timer is someone with a minimum of 20 years in the sport, and I wouldn't even hesitate to up that figure to 25. Agree, because I think this implies a few things: 1 - has jumped a round as a main 2 - knows how to spot 3 - doesn't call an exit from 4K a Hop & Pop, isn't nervous to exit below 2K either 4 - knows how to pack and spot 5 - likely jumped with almost no 'real' training 6 - knows how to pack a round 7 - tells good stories 8 - knows how to spot and pack 9 - skydived when it wasn't really mainstream 10 - knows how to pack and spot 11 - thinks fondly of Cessnas, 12 - tells good stories 13 - has maybe quit the sport for periods longer than most people are in the sport - always came back 14 - thought passing a baton was hard 15 - has worn freefall suits that you could fit a bean bag chair in with him *** Yeah! And don't forget...we know how to SPOT! Don't know about the 'Tells good stories' thing though! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #21 January 18, 2006 QuoteDon't know about the 'Tells good stories' thing though! 'twardo? Do you have any good stories about the old days? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #22 January 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteDon't know about the 'Tells good stories' thing though! 'twardo? Do you have any good stories about the old days? Quote Funny you should ask, don't really know any good stories but.....ever tell ya 'bout the time.....! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #23 January 18, 2006 How about: Considers the phrase "spot for your reserve, not your main" to be a timeless piece of wisdom. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OATSF14 0 #24 January 18, 2006 QuoteAn old-timer is someone with a minimum of 20 years in the sport, and I wouldn't even hesitate to up that figure to 25. Agreed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OATSF14 0 #25 January 18, 2006 Agree, because I think this implies a few things: Quote1 - has jumped a round as a main 2 - knows how to spot 3 - doesn't call an exit from 4K a Hop & Pop, isn't nervous to exit below 2K either 4 - knows how to pack and spot 5 - likely jumped with almost no 'real' training 6 - knows how to pack a round 7 - tells good stories 8 - knows how to spot and pack 9 - skydived when it wasn't really mainstream 10 - knows how to pack and spot 11 - thinks fondly of Cessnas, 12 - tells good stories 13 - has maybe quit the sport for periods longer than most people are in the sport - always came back 14 - thought passing a baton was hard 15 - has worn freefall suits that you could fit a bean bag chair in with him Done them all. Oh well.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
