SkydiveStMarys 0 #1 January 9, 2006 This is just so wrong on so many levels..... Bobbi FORT SUMNER, N.M. - A mouse got its revenge against a homeowner who tried to dispose of it in a pile of burning leaves. The blazing creature ran back to the man's house and set it on fire. Luciano Mares, 81, of Fort Sumner said he caught the mouse inside his house and wanted to get rid of it. "I had some leaves burning outside, so I threw it in the fire, and the mouse was on fire and ran back at the house," Mares said from a motel room Saturday. Village Fire Chief Juan Chavez said the burning mouse ran to just beneath a window, and the flames spread up from there and throughout the house. No was hurt inside, but the home and everything in it was destroyed. Unseasonably dry and windy conditions have charred more than 53,000 acres and destroyed 10 homes in southeastern New Mexico in recent weeks. "I've seen numerous house fires," village Fire Department Capt. Jim Lyssy said, "but nothing as unique as this one."A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #2 January 9, 2006 Sounds like justice to me. The man was putting an animal to an extremely cruel death and got "burned" as a result. I'm ok with it, except for the poor mouse. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #3 January 9, 2006 I agree...like I said..its just so wrong. I never killed the field mice that got into the hangar at my DZ, I relocated them.I understand they are vermin, but they don't need to be crucified. BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #4 January 9, 2006 Quote I agree...like I said..its just so wrong. I never killed the field mice that got into the hangar at my DZ, I relocated them.I understand they are vermin, but they don't need to be crucified. Bobbi I relocate the huge "hell rats" (my term, not an "offical" name) that I occasionally see and trap on my patio. I call them hell rats because they are fairly large and quite crafty. One thing that happened that is not quite a "story" was when I had caught one of the beasts in a live trap. My then-girlfriend had told me that she wanted to see one up-close next time I caught one. She was still in bed asleep when I went in the bedroom and said, "Hey, check this out. I caught another Hell Rat!". Honestly, I didn't think it was any big deal, but to her, waking up to the sight of a Hell Rat inches from her face was a truly bad thing. In fact, she got downright hostile about it and has never forgiven me. I don't think that had anything to do with why she dumped me, but she still brings it up occasionally. Billvon, despite his occasional statements about human life being worth infinitely more than animal life, does the same thing. Not the waking up the woman in his life by showing her a rat thing, but the relocating thing. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #5 January 9, 2006 Lesson learned here: Don't fuck with mice "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j0nes 0 #6 January 9, 2006 karma. i understand killing mice, but at least do it humanely. I had a mouse once and i caught it with a glue trap, thinking i'd be able to release it later. after seeing how well the mouse was stuck, i agonized on the most humane way to put it out of its misery. i didn't want to just throw it away and have it starve / dehydrate so i put it in a bag and rolled my car over it. i didn't open the bag..... yech. if i had to do it over, i would use a snap trap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #7 January 9, 2006 Quote karma. i understand killing mice, but at least do it humanely. I had a mouse once and i caught it with a glue trap, thinking i'd be able to release it later. after seeing how well the mouse was stuck, i agonized on the most humane way to put it out of its misery. i didn't want to just throw it away and have it starve / dehydrate so i put it in a bag and rolled my car over it. . That's one way... I just let my cats handle it. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j0nes 0 #8 January 9, 2006 Quote That's one way... I just let my cats handle it. i'd rather have mice in my house than cats. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #9 January 9, 2006 Reading that....just made me gasp! There was no good ending after the glue trap.... BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j0nes 0 #10 January 9, 2006 Quote There was no good ending after the glue trap.... i know that now.... trust me, i wasn't happy about having to rollover the mouse but the alternative was to let it suffer some other death. it seemed quick and (probably) painless..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #11 January 9, 2006 I know someone that caught a mouse in a trap, it didn't die and he had no way of killing it, ie shovel, broom. So he throw it in a bucket (it was filled with rain water and ice cold) and let it drown. I had nightmares for weeks because of that "picture" in my head. BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #12 January 9, 2006 I buy small rats from the petstore, then I kill them by placing a metal bar behind the neck & pulling so that the neck breaks. Then I feed the rat to my corn snake. not a very pleasant experience for me (or for the rat), but the snake has to eat. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j0nes 0 #13 January 9, 2006 Quote I know someone that caught a mouse in a trap, it didn't die and he had no way of killing it, ie shovel, broom. he didn't have feet? he couldn't stomp on it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #14 January 9, 2006 Quote I buy small rats from the petstore, then I kill them by placing a metal bar behind the neck & pulling so that the neck breaks. Then I feed the rat to my corn snake. not a very pleasant experience for me (or for the rat), but the snake has to eat. I thought snakes only went after the live rats? Oh wait, the corn snake's not a boa..."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #15 January 9, 2006 Quote I buy small rats from the petstore, then I kill them by placing a metal bar behind the neck & pulling so that the neck breaks. Then I feed the rat to my corn snake. not a very pleasant experience for me (or for the rat), but the snake has to eat. Metal bar? I always used thumb and forefinger. It's not particularly pleasant, but it's fast. I never thought of using a metal bar. Got pictures of your snake to share? rl P.S. Apparently someone posted the article in SC too. My comment there re the guy who set the mouse on fire was: Serves him right.If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #16 January 9, 2006 "Apparently someone posted the article in SC too. My comment there re the guy who set the mouse on fire was: Serves him right." Yeah, I thought about posting it there, but I didn't want to go back and forth with people about right, wrong, yeah, or ney. I am curious as to how this topic is "going" over there. So I'm off to the SC, wish me luck!!! BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlindBrick 0 #17 January 9, 2006 Quote i didn't want to just throw it away and have it starve / dehydrate It won't starve or die of dehydration. It will eventually just get exhausted from fighting and lay its head down in the glue at which point it aphysiates(sp?). Not instantaneous, but not a days logn ordeal either. -Blind"If you end up in an alligator's jaws, naked, you probably did something to deserve it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j0nes 0 #18 January 9, 2006 Quote It won't starve or die of dehydration. It will eventually just get exhausted from fighting and lay its head down in the glue at which point it aphysiates(sp?). Not instantaneous, but not a days logn ordeal either. my glue trapped mouse was still alive after spending the night in glue. it's face was firmly planted in the glue and it was still alive. not calling you a liar or a dumbass, just relating my experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlindBrick 0 #19 January 9, 2006 Quote Quote It won't starve or die of dehydration. It will eventually just get exhausted from fighting and lay its head down in the glue at which point it aphysiates(sp?). Not instantaneous, but not a days logn ordeal either. my glue trapped mouse was still alive after spending the night in glue. it's face was firmly planted in the glue and it was still alive. not calling you a liar or a dumbass, just relating my experience. Hmm, all mine died overnight, but I gues YMMMV. -Blind"If you end up in an alligator's jaws, naked, you probably did something to deserve it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #20 January 10, 2006 Quote karma. i understand killing mice, but at least do it humanely. I had a mouse once and i caught it with a glue trap, thinking i'd be able to release it later. after seeing how well the mouse was stuck, i agonized on the most humane way to put it out of its misery. i didn't want to just throw it away and have it starve / dehydrate so i put it in a bag and rolled my car over it. i didn't open the bag..... yech. if i had to do it over, i would use a snap trap. The glue in most glue traps will dissolve if you put mineral oil on it. You can un-stick a mouse that way, but it will probably bite you. Better to just get a humane trap to begin with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evelyn 0 #21 January 10, 2006 My husband called me at work today to tell me about this. Told him I was happy the house burned down. He said he called me because it reminded him of the burning bunnies at Eloy. Told him that was not the same since they didn't know the bunnies were in there. He agreed, but said that was why he thought to tell me about it, that the bunnies could have hopped into the tunnel. I don't think so . Life is either a daring adventure or nothing ~ Helen Keller Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #22 January 10, 2006 Quote Mouse sets house on fire And here I thought it was a thread about Mickey Mouse... ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NlghtJumper 0 #23 January 10, 2006 I dont have to worry about mice or rats back home. We have mostly brush for a yard, so snakes thrive there. Not to mention the owl, and the neighbors cats that run all around the neighborhood. We have the best exterminators in the world! A man will do anything for the right woman, and when that woman destroys him, that man will become a hunk of meat with the common sense of a rodeo clown! ~ Christopher Titus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fraggs 0 #24 January 10, 2006 I'm sure that mouse died a verry happy and painless death after sniffing all that glue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #25 January 10, 2006 OK, I'm no Dahli Lama but I try not to kill anything ever. I capture/set-free. I've caught plenty of snakes in my time and relocated, but the best capture/release was recently a humongous crab in my backyard. Granted, my house is a few blocks off the ocean, but you just don't see crabs in your backyard every day and certainly not this big. I had to capture it b/c my kitty was trying to play with it and I was afraid he'd get the clamp Anyone whose tried to capture a crab, knows this was a really funny situation. And that's my story... As for the mouse, much like everyone else said: Serves the guy right!Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
