flyangel2 2 #26 September 10, 2008 I can always tell when a Zero or Negative G is about to happen and grab a seatbelt.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dj_smokie 0 #27 December 11, 2008 "Uh, sorry Goose. WE happened to see a MiG 28 do a 4g negative dive." What would be REAL cool is if the door was open while pulling negative G's and someone did a real "floating" exit out of the door. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #28 December 11, 2008 Quote "Uh, sorry Goose. WE happened to see a MiG 28 do a 4g negative dive." What would be REAL cool is if the door was open while pulling negative G's and someone did a real "floating" exit out of the door. While it may be fun to have the neet quip this is a topical forum and thus more serious in nature than Bonfire. No, it would not be real cool to put someone in freefall that was not expecting it just so we can have a "yahoo" moment. But yes a floating exit has been done. I've seen the video done in a Twin Otter. The jumper was on the floor near fetal position. Zero G (negative Gs put you on the roof) and then pushed left rudder which rotated the plane away from the jumper and the jumper "went" out the door.Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #29 December 11, 2008 Quote Quote "Uh, sorry Goose. WE happened to see a MiG 28 do a 4g negative dive." What would be REAL cool is if the door was open while pulling negative G's and someone did a real "floating" exit out of the door. While it may be fun to have the neet quip this is a topical forum and thus more serious in nature than Bonfire. No, it would not be real cool to put someone in freefall that was not expecting it just so we can have a "yahoo" moment. But yes a floating exit has been done. I've seen the video done in a Twin Otter. The jumper was on the floor near fetal position. Zero G (negative Gs put you on the roof) and then pushed left rudder which rotated the plane away from the jumper and the jumper "went" out the door. Isn't there significant risk of a tail strike?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dj_smokie 0 #30 December 11, 2008 Quote Quote "Uh, sorry Goose. WE happened to see a MiG 28 do a 4g negative dive." What would be REAL cool is if the door was open while pulling negative G's and someone did a real "floating" exit out of the door. While it may be fun to have the neet quip this is a topical forum and thus more serious in nature than Bonfire. No, it would not be real cool to put someone in freefall that was not expecting it just so we can have a "yahoo" moment. But yes a floating exit has been done. I've seen the video done in a Twin Otter. The jumper was on the floor near fetal position. Zero G (negative Gs put you on the roof) and then pushed left rudder which rotated the plane away from the jumper and the jumper "went" out the door. I apologize if my sarcasm was misleading, especially in the safety forum. I wholeheartedly agree with you that it would be a very dangerous thing to attempt. I'm actually really surprised (or...maybe not really all that surprised) that someone has already done this. Can't you technically be floating at -0.5 G's? Wouldn't you have to be at a full -1.0 G to be totally pinned on the roof of the fuselage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hypsin 0 #31 December 11, 2008 Quote Can't you technically be floating at -0.5 G's? Wouldn't you have to be at a full -1.0 G to be totally pinned on the roof of the fuselage? In order to "float" relative to the plane - it will have to experience the same acceleration as your body - that is 1 G towards the earth. You are accelerating towards ground at 1G, plane - at .5G. Relative to the plane you will still be accelerating at .5G. To float, your body has to be accelerating at 0G relative to the plane. If that makes any sense... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #32 December 11, 2008 >Can't you technically be floating at -0.5 G's? At -.5G's you'd be pinned to the ceiling with half your normal weight (90lbs in my case.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #33 December 11, 2008 Quote Isn't there significant risk of a tail strike? I said I've seen it done on video. I didn't say it was smart.Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #34 December 11, 2008 QuoteI apologize if my sarcasm was misleading, especially in the safety forum. I wholeheartedly agree with you that it would be a very dangerous thing to attempt. I'm actually really surprised (or...maybe not really all that surprised) that someone has already done this. Can't you technically be floating at -0.5 G's? Wouldn't you have to be at a full -1.0 G to be totally pinned on the roof of the fuselage? Ok no problem smokie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #35 December 12, 2008 Quote What would be REAL cool is if the door was open while pulling negative G's and someone did a real "floating" exit out of the door. you never saw any Pink Skyvan videos did you ?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sletzer 3 #36 December 12, 2008 While those videos were cool; shutting off engines and climbing on the roof, barrel rolling the plane on exit, etc has GOT to be dangerous. That being said, I'd still consider going for a ride with them.... once or twice- gotto work with the odds here! But seriously, I'd be shocked if no one's ever been severely injured while exiting that plane.I will be kissing hands and shaking babies all afternoon. Thanks for all your support! *bows* SCS #8251 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #37 December 12, 2008 I don't think this girl appreciated it much....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYIKQ-SwIac Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #38 December 12, 2008 Quote What would be REAL cool is if the door was open while pulling negative G's and someone did a real "floating" exit out of the door. That's the easiest way to launch a raft dive out of a tail gate. You just need the pilots to get it right on the first try (not after several) so you don't end up landing waaay off the airport in a field with hungry cows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dj_smokie 0 #39 December 12, 2008 Quote I don't think this girl appreciated it much....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYIKQ-SwIac Girl. FAIL. LOL! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozzy13 0 #40 December 12, 2008 Quote Quote I don't think this girl appreciated it much....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYIKQ-SwIac Girl. FAIL. LOL! LMAO I watched that video six or seven times . Couldn't stop laughing. The other girls face was priceless!!Never give the gates up and always trust your rears! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #41 December 14, 2008 I agree with you. I did my first and only raft jump at Rantoul and we used a zero G launch from a Casa. The pilot knew what he was doing. There was 3 jumpers in the raft and 4 jumpers around it to stabilize including myself at the front left. I was pretty sure that would be a total mess but surprisingly with had a perfect exit and held the raft from 13500 to 5500.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
